What is your Achievement Ability spec?

[Wozicasamoll]

<div></div><div><strong>Hi</strong></div><div> </div><div><strong>I am curious about what my fellow rangers will spec in thier AA tree and would be glad to hear wich way you're goin and why.</strong></div><div> </div><div>I started off goin the AGI way and currently am at Point Blank Shot rank 2, wich btw is a great ability imo. Im thinking of completing the AGI tree and do the WIS tree after cus of the resistance and hate decrease abilities.</div><div> </div><div>So it will be like 0/24/0/24/0 stating <strong>(</strong> STR 0 <strong>/</strong> AGI 24 <strong>/</strong> STA 0 <strong>/</strong> WIS 24 <strong>/</strong> INT 0 <strong>)</strong>. Then I still got 1 point left beside the 1 point used to start the whole Achievement Ability tree.</div>

[Steezi]

<div></div>spreadin em out between agi and int personally

[TwistedFaith]

i'm completing the agility line, then I will make a decsion wether to either max agility line out or go with another line.I'm curious with the increase in ranged auto attack how effective critical hits will be. 8pts into raising that skill may pay off.

[syncline]

<div></div>I'm gonna go AGI and INTBounty - 1AGIR1 - 8R2 - 4R3 - 4R4 - 8R5 - 8     *INTR1 - 4R2 - 5R3 - 4R4 - 4R5-  8    *50 points* Debating if I should get the R5 of agi or Int.. Might go Int because of the poison damage<div></div><p>Message Edited by syncline on <span class="date_text">03-07-2006</span><span class="time_text">03:01 PM</span></p>

[Teksun]

I'm going AGI and WIS. minimum amounts to get the top tier. I figure I can NEVER lose enough agro... even now.<div></div>

[DarkMalken]

bah, i cant read, n/m this<p>Message Edited by DarkMalken on <span class="date_text">03-06-2006</span><span class="time_text">06:46 AM</span></p>

[ChaosUndivided]

<div>Going Agility to Rank 4, Maxing Rank 4.</div><div>Int to Rank 5, Maxing Rank 4 Also.</div>

[Fennir]

INT is a nice line, but since we're getting a damage boost and I can already pull agro when I want as it is, I'm going to go with my original plan of maxing out WIS to the end after AGI.If we get more points at some point, INT will be next, but the opportunity of less hate, faster stealthing, and a third fast-cast in-combat stealth is too good to pass up.<div></div>

[jarlaxle8]

<div>first i'll go for agi rank 5. after that i'll either spend more on agi or rather go int.but i may change my mind and take a different second line then int. it's clear that i want rank 5 of agi cause i solo lots and like to have quicker shots (and point blank shot is great :smileyhappy: ). but the others are a tough choice.</div><div> </div><div>---------------------------<a target="_self" href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=383113204">Ryilan Nightbreeze </a>---------------------------</div><div> </div><div> </div>

[Bayler_x]

I'm not crazy about any of the ultimate abilities.  They're nice, but it seems like there are better places for those 8 points.  I figure I'll spread my points out a bit: maxing run speed and bow crits first; then going for proc crits.  After that, maybe the deagro stuff.  But that's a long way off for me.<div></div>

[Racmo]

<div>I'm maxing Int.  Going to the crit ability in AGI at least.  But I like the defense in the wisdom line, and the parry in the STR line....So I'm debating alot.  Only thing I'm certain of is I'm getting final ability in the int line.</div><div> </div><div>Tobi</div><div>50 Ranger.</div>

[Wozicasamoll]

<div></div><p>Like Fennir said, I too do like the thought of another in-combat stealth ability and decrease hate abilities aswell in the WIS tree.'</p><p>I've seen alot goin INT tree aswell.. And I think its a good way aswell, although I dont think I'd be having a dagger equiped all the time for one of the INT skills.. Minor factor since its only one skill though.</p><p>But what about STR and STA trees, anyone goin that way or is it just too poor skills besides the others trees?</p>

[TabulaRasa]

I mostly duo with a Fury and wind up tanking what ever we fight.  I'm leaning towards Str line for melee crits and added parry, but not the final skill as decreasing the reuse on 2 spells isn't worth 8 pts.  I figure to max out Agi with the rest of my points, but haven't decided on whether to get the 35% cast timer reduction or just add the points into the crit chance and PBS ranks.  I realize my play style is much less than optimum, but I think it will allow more options for encounters than the other lines.<div></div>

[Marcuzs]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>syncline wrote:I'm gonna go AGI and INTBounty - 1AGIR1 - 8R2 - 4R3 - 4R4 - 8R5 - 8     ********INTR1 - 4R2 - 5R3 - 4R4 - 4R5-  8    ********50 pointsDebating if I should get the R5 of agi or Int.. Might go Int because of the poison damage<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>You have 57 points listed.</p><p>I personally will probably be doing the AGI and STR lines. The STR line gives another mellee attack to use while soloing and also decrease our recast time on Rain of Arrows and Sniper shot. Also I dont really care for any of the other lines.</p>

[Wozicasamoll]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Marcuzs wrote:<div></div><p>I personally will probably be doing the AGI and STR lines. The STR line gives another mellee attack to use while soloing and also decrease our recast time on Rain of Arrows and Sniper shot. Also I dont really care for any of the other lines.</p><hr></blockquote>Then you would get increased melee and ranged crit changes aswell, wich is good in both ways.. Seems like STR is good aswell with the decreased reuse time and increased dam.

[syncline]

<div></div><blockquote><blockquote> </blockquote><p>You have 57 points listed.</p><p>I personally will probably be doing the AGI and STR lines. The STR line gives another mellee attack to use while soloing and also decrease our recast time on Rain of Arrows and Sniper shot. Also I dont really care for any of the other lines.</p><hr></blockquote>I edited it so its more clear... follow the "*"   ^_^

[Draughi]

<div></div><div>STR and AGL lines.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Spread out as follows.  Just crunching numbers, it would give us the optimum damage in my opinion in nearly any type of encounter.  The INT line is great, however, with the proc rates as they sit, I find myself melee-ing a lot more and wouldn't mind the melee crits, especially waiting for the recast timers when I cast Killing Instinct/honed reflexes for the chainsaw effect....wouldn't mind seeing the crits here.</div><div> </div><div>4 into all agility skills except the crit..max the crit with 8 and the cast timer 8.   4 into all the str skills with 8 into the melee crits.  One left over I'd likely put into the Str or Sta. </div><div> </div><div>The damage increase to our Storm of arrows line as well as the snipers shot is not very useful in DPS....sure you'll get some larger damage, but the crits will up your DPS much more, burning 8 pts on 2 skills where as the boost in your autoattack will do much more as well as crits on your AA's. </div>

[Wozicasamoll]

<div>I found this in another thread on the Ranger forum.. Very usefull though it got some minor bugs.</div><div> </div><div><a target="_blank" href="http://www.guilduniverse.com/anathema/forumreply.aspx?tid=130104"><font color="#ffcc33">http://www.guilduniverse.com/anathema/forumreply.aspx?tid=130104</font></a></div><div> </div><div>Still goin as follow:</div><div> </div><div>AGI tree - Archer's Agility 4, Point Blank Shot 4, Fitness 4, Ranged Expertise 5, Poise 8 = 25</div><div> </div><div>WIS tree - Prowler's Wisdom 4, Placating Strike 4,  Prowler's Cunning 4, Obfuscation 4, Smoke Bomb 8 = 24</div><div> </div><div>Plus the 1 point spent in the Bounty skill.</div><div> </div><div>Giving me +20 AGI, +32 WIS, +10,8 Defence, +14% ranged crit chance, +5,2 increased in-combat speed.</div>

[Racmo]

<div></div><p>Yes, I think I corrected a few.  Please, please let me know if you find a bug.  I'm doing the other classes and using it as a base, so any bugs are going to be propogated...I want to avoid that if I can!  Please, any feedback will be GREATLY appreciated.</p><p> </p><p>Tobi</p><p>50 Ranger</p>

[SilVaSpi]

<div></div><div><a target="_blank" href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/view_profile?user.id=111172"><span>Wozicasamoll</span></a> you did a very good number crunch on AGI and WIS lines for the AA points... could anyone out there gimme a number crunch of what i would get from Maxing out the AGI line and all the rest in STR... any help would be greatly appreciated</div>

[dbmoreland]

Ok SilVaSpiDa, I will take a stab at it.If you max out the Agi line you will have1 pt of Bounty8 pts of Archer's Agility = +40 Agility8 pts of Point Blank Shot = Melee range Combat Art that does about 450 - 758 pts of damage and stuns the target for 4 seconds.8 pts of Fitness = In combat movement speed increase of 10.4%8 pts of Ranged Expertise = Increase Ranged Critical Hit chance by 22.4%8 pts of Poise = Reduce casting time of all Combat Arts by 35%Then put the remainder of your 50 points in the strength line will give you...8 pts of Blademaster's Strength = +24 Strength1 pt of Blade Opening = Melee range Combat Art that does xxx - xxx pts of damage and an additional xxx - xxx pts of damage if the mob is at 80%+ health.The PBS ability will give you an additional 10 DPS based on its average 600 pts of damage every 60 seconds (its reuse time).The Increase Ranged Critical Hit chance will give you some undetermined increase in DPS as long as you have ranged auto-attack on.The reduction in the casting time of all of your Combat Arts will effectively double your initial DPS for the first 15 seconds of the fight. Normaly it would take 31 seconds, barring any lag and positioning issues, to cast all 18 of your damage dealing CAs. Poise will reduce this time to 15.5 seconds. So for the first 15 seconds of the fight you are dealing out twice as much CA damage as you would normaly do. But then of course you need to wait for all of those recast timers to cycle so your DPS will drop.The increase of 24 strength will increase the damage of your auto-attacks, both ranged and melee, by some undetermined amount.Hope this helps,<div></div>

[SilVaSpi]

<div>thanks, that really helps me plan out my AA points and is much appreciated...!</div>

[BedlamX]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>Marcuzs wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>syncline wrote:I'm gonna go AGI and INTBounty - 1AGIR1 - 8R2 - 4R3 - 4R4 - 8R5 - 8     ********INTR1 - 4R2 - 5R3 - 4R4 - 4R5-  8    ********50 pointsDebating if I should get the R5 of agi or Int.. Might go Int because of the poison damage<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>You have 57 points listed.</p><p>I personally will probably be doing the AGI and STR lines. <font color="#ffff00">The STR line gives another mellee attack to use while soloing</font> and also decrease our recast time on Rain of Arrows and Sniper shot. Also I dont really care for any of the other lines.</p><hr></blockquote>The problem I have found with this is that I dual wield and the AA requires a sword to be equiped. Is there an advantage to this CA at all?</span></div>

[Star]

<div>My plan is AGI and STR myself. I'll see how that plays once I have all 50 then maybe respec.</div><div>Bounty - 1AGIR1 - 4R2 - 4R3 - 4R4 - 5R5 - 8STRR1 - 4R2 - 4R3 - 4R4 - 4R5 - 850 points</div><div>:smileyvery-happy:</div>

[Star]

<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>BedlamX wrote:<div><span>The problem I have found with this is that I dual wield and the AA requires a sword to be equiped. Is there an advantage to this CA at all?</span></div><hr></blockquote>There are DW swords in KoS. Steelflight something or other is one that drops on Sanctum I think. I also saw a nice Legendary Short Sword (DW) drop from Blackscale. I forget the name and did not win it.<p>Message Edited by jwmaynar on <span class="date_text">03-09-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:09 AM</span></p>

[SilVaSpi]

<div></div>what would the outcome be if i used half my points on the AGI line and half on the STR line....?   what would the number crunch look like ???

[Wozicasamoll]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>BedlamX wrote:<div><span>The problem I have found with this is that I dual wield and the AA requires a sword to be equiped. Is there an advantage to this CA at all?</span></div><hr></blockquote>There is alot of DW weaps that is of sword type.. The <a target="_blank" href="http://eq2.ogaming.com/db/items/PrismaticSwiftbladeoftheScale.php">Prismatic Swiftblade of the Scale</a> is a DW sword type. So you can dual wield with a sword type weapon.. no worries there <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Star]

<div></div>There's also the Blackscale Shortsword. Nice DW sword from Blackscale instance in Bonemire.

[ary]

<div>I always dual wield one slash and one pierce but I am not too sure if they are swords I will have to check on my past weapons.I intend to go strength and agility too.</div>

[Jay]

<div></div><div>"Swords" doesn't mean 1H weapons - that'd be pretty useless for both predator classes. Spathas, short swords, rapiers, and sabres are all DW swords, I believe.</div>

[jarlaxle8]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Jay42 wrote:<div></div><div>"Swords" doesn't mean 1H weapons - that'd be pretty useless for both predator classes. Spathas, short swords, rapiers, and sabres are all DW swords, I believe.<hr></div></blockquote><p>rapier probably isn't counted as sword type in EQ2. it's piercing and it's the required weapon in the WIS AP line.</p><p>this is the point where the old skill system (sword, dagger, axe, spear, etc.) would be welcome for some clarification. :smileyhappy: like, what is a whip? i remember it used the sword skill. will it count as sword? (i just like whips... :smileytongue: )</p><p>---------------------------<a target="_self" href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=383113204">Ryilan Nightbreeze </a>---------------------------</p>

[Jay]

<div></div><p>Hmm, I didn't know swords were inherently limited to slashing damage. /shrug</p><p>I think whips are counted as swords. You really like them? You can have both of mine... I've never liked whips at all, but my luck is such that they keep being the best weapons I win in lottos. My Strap of Flaying and my Devolving Whip (?) have the highest damage rating of anything in my arsenal, but I can't bring myself to D/W them all of the time. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[brandi7920]

<div></div><div>Bah - posted on wrong thread. :smileytongue:</div><p>Message Edited by brandi7920 on <span class="date_text">03-10-2006</span><span class="time_text">02:53 PM</span></p>

[Caliga]

First I am going STA for the spear attack.  Then I am going AGI for point blank.  Haven't thought it out pass getting those two abilities.<div></div>

[Nak]

you all talk about what your doing with these points but how do you plan on getting to 50 aa's ? <span>:smileysurprised:</span><div></div>

[Gareorn]

<div></div><p>Shouldn't be too difficult for you.  One more level, then all your adventure exp goes straight to your AA pool.  Enjoy!:smileyvery-happy:</p><p>I am curious though, could someone who has hit level 70, let us know how fast the AA levels go compared to the adventure levels.</p>

[Nak]

am lvl 70 forgot to change sig, been it for a few days now, it comes so slow!<div></div>

[Caliga]

Well, I explained how I am spending my first 11.  I haven't planned past that yet.<div></div>

[Billibub]

<div></div>I'm with Khalan on his choice for specialization.I'd recommend it for the raiders out there.As long as you use Elude and Surveillance as much as possible you won't really need the deaggro from the wis line.Although thats probably what I'll go next after the cap is raised from 50.<div></div>

[jarlaxle8]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Jay42 wrote:<div></div><p>Hmm, I didn't know swords were inherently limited to slashing damage. /shrug</p><p>I think whips are counted as swords. You really like them? You can have both of mine... I've never liked whips at all, but my luck is such that they keep being the best weapons I win in lottos. My Strap of Flaying and my Devolving Whip (?) have the highest damage rating of anything in my arsenal, but I can't bring myself to D/W them all of the time. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><hr></blockquote><p>oh, strap of flaying. that's the cazel one, isn't it? i'll would like that one. put as second weapon i still prefer a piercer, so i have slash and pierce at the same time.the second whip i havn't heard of. where do you get it?</p><p>i dug around in ogaming if i would find an old screenshot of a rapier which shows the weapon skill involved like it used to be. i found one; it has 'rapier' as skill, so it seems it counts as it's own class of weapons.</p><p>---------------------------<a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=383113204" target="_self">Ryilan Nightbreeze </a>---------------------------</p>

[jarlaxle8]

<div></div><p>found some info about weapon types at dirges forum in <a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=37&message.id=8519#M8519" target="_blank">this thread</a></p><p>---------------------------<a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=383113204" target="_self">Ryilan Nightbreeze </a>---------------------------</p>

[SilVaSpi]

<div>what would the outcome be if i used half my points on the AGI line and half on the STR line....?   what would the number crunch look like ???</div>

[Jay]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>jarlaxle888 wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Jay42 wrote:<div></div><p>Hmm, I didn't know swords were inherently limited to slashing damage. /shrug</p><p>I think whips are counted as swords. You really like them? You can have both of mine... I've never liked whips at all, but my luck is such that they keep being the best weapons I win in lottos. My Strap of Flaying and my Devolving Whip (?) have the highest damage rating of anything in my arsenal, but I can't bring myself to D/W them all of the time. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><hr></blockquote><p>oh, strap of flaying. that's the cazel one, isn't it? i'll would like that one. put as second weapon i still prefer a piercer, so i have slash and pierce at the same time.the second whip i havn't heard of. where do you get it?</p><p>i dug around in ogaming if i would find an old screenshot of a rapier which shows the weapon skill involved like it used to be. i found one; it has 'rapier' as skill, so it seems it counts as it's own class of weapons.</p><p>---------------------------<a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=383113204" target="_self">Ryilan Nightbreeze </a>---------------------------</p><hr></blockquote><p>Yeah, the Strap of Flaying drops in Cazel's Mesa. It's (sadly) still the best DR of any dual-wielder I own, but I'm hoping that'll change soon. Last night, I fell in love with a DW shortsword called something like "Blade of the Darktalon" that I *must* have. It's not amazing or anythig, but it has very nice DR and good stats, plus it's a totally new model - looks like an Asian sword with a gentle curve to the hilt and blade, kind of like the swords you see used in t'ai chi.</p><p>Devolving Whip drops in KoS zones - I think I got mine in Sanctum of the Scaleborn, but it might have come from The Nest of the Great Egg instance. I actually sold that one over the weekend and replaced it with the reward from the Ravasect Mandible collection, which had slightly better damage and stats, along with the advantage of being a sword, not a whip. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Fennir]

Well, after getting ranged crit to rank 4, I have decided to change my build.  I just can't justify NOT maxing out ranged crit.So my new build is:(1)AGI: 4 / 4 / 4 / 8 / 8 - 35% reduction in cast times, 22% increase to ranged critWIS: 4 / 4/ 4 / 8 - higher defense, ~50%(?) reduction in stealth/stalk casting and recastno idea where to put the last point.<div></div>

[ChaosUndivided]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Fennir wrote:Well, after getting ranged crit to rank 4, I have decided to change my build.  I just can't justify NOT maxing out ranged crit.So my new build is:(1)AGI: 4 / 4 / 4 / 8 / 8 - 35% reduction in cast times, 22% increase to ranged critWIS: 4 / 4/ 4 / 8 - higher defense, ~50%(?) reduction in stealth/stalk casting and recastno idea where to put the last point.<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>I'd go Strength.</p><p>I'm going</p><p>4/4/4/8 Agility line,</p><p>4/4/4/8/8 Int line.</p><p> </p>

[Fennir]

INT is definitely going to be my 3rd path when we get more AA points, but my two issues:1. I've heard the INT path doesn't work well with ranged, as most of the effects are melee based.  Need confirmation.2. Not in a raid guild, so our raids rarely have perfect groups. Agro control is a big issue for me.  With ranged crit maxed and the incoming fixes, I see it being even more of an issue.<div></div>

[Teksun]

<div></div><span><blockquote><hr>Jay42 wrote:<div></div><p>Hmm, I didn't know swords were inherently limited to slashing damage. /shrug</p><p>I think whips are counted as swords. You really like them? You can have both of mine... I've never liked whips at all, but my luck is such that they keep being the best weapons I win in lottos. My Strap of Flaying and my Devolving Whip (?) have the highest damage rating of anything in my arsenal, but I can't bring myself to D/W them all of the time. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><hr></blockquote>Silly kitty... I had two for a while (I got a decent drop so put one back in my pack). The women LOVE the whips. I suggest you keep one just for that <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />EDIT: I almost forgot: I'm going WIS as my second AA, and have been looking for a rapier. I have YET to find one on the broker, even player made. Do I have bad luck or do they not exist???</span><div></div><p>Message Edited by Teksun on <span class="date_text">03-14-2006</span><span class="time_text">09:39 AM</span></p>