Focus Fire CA

[klepp]

<div>tryin to figure this one out... does it only increase Autoattack speed/damage or does it effect Ranged CA's as well?  Determining factor if i buy the master or not =)</div>

[dbmoreland]

It only effects Autoattack speed and damage. It does NOT effect any CAs.On the other hand all of those rangers that are having problems killing those White or Yellow, No arrow or one up arrow mobs designed for an individual, how many of you are using this skill?? Yes, it has a 90 second recast timer, but so does Hidden Shot. So are you using this CA every single time you are pulling with Hidden Shot?? If not then THAT is ONE reason why you are having problems soloing those mobs. Check out how much additional damage you can do to that mob with THREE TIMES as many arrows hitting the mob ON THE PULL for 75% MORE damage EACH than your "normal" auto attack ranged combat. Put away my bow?? Not bloody likely. Will I have to melee the white up arrow mob eventualy? Yes. But by using as many as 8 RANGED (or ranged combat related) CAs in order to pull these "tough" mobs, you CAN solo them and in fact do so with confidence. For those of you that are only using 1 or 2 CAs to pull a mob, well I am sorry but there is a reason you are having a problem with up arrow mobs. These ARE SUPPOSED to be TOUGH mobs, READ the discription.Rangers are NOT "broken". They have finaly been fixed to play the way they are ment to be played. Down arrow blue mobs are easy. White mobs are an even (read 50/50) fight. Up arrow and/or yellow mobs are HARD. If you are not doing EVERYTHING you can you WILL LOSE. Are other classes still "broken"? YES. Other classes can solo mobs with ease that either they should NOT be able to or by using only a fraction of their total ability. If you don't like it, then please go play that "other" class. If on the other hand you are like me and want to play a ranger using ALL of their abilities, then join me and lets show the world of Norath how good rangers are.<div></div>

[klepp]

<div></div>k thats what i thought.. and yes we're broke, im out dps'd by classes that are MEANT to be lower than rangers.  Swash for example out dps'd me not using poison at all while i was using legendary =p  My guild constantly teases me so if we're not broken... then... the majority sure things so =p other than those classes that think they shoud do the best damage. 

[Carna]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>klepp wrote:<div></div>k thats what i thought.. and yes we're broke, im out dps'd by classes that are MEANT to be lower than rangers.  Swash for example out dps'd me not using poison at all while i was using legendary =p  My guild constantly teases me so if we're not broken... then... the majority sure things so =p other than those classes that think they shoud do the best damage. <hr></blockquote><p>I play a Brigand as my main and now a Swashbuckler and Ranger alt... I'd suggest you need to pay more attention to what you're doing before you jump to conclusions about why a Swashbuckler is outdamaging you.... My lvl 31 Ranger with only Apps is doing about the same damage as my lvl 31 Swash with Masters.</p><p>I think SOE nerfed overly hard for sure and need to address the matter, but I think you need to get a little better at your melee to accompany your bow. Rogues and Assassins tend to be hyperactive in combat to maximise their damage, I'd be interested to know if you're still standing in the one place pressing the same buttons in sequence.... I think Rangers need a bit more, but I personally suspect you're overstating things.</p><p>I'm only experiencing Swashes and Rangers at a comparatively low level though so I might be missing something.</p>

[Keredh]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Carnagh wrote:<div></div><blockquote>I play a Brigand as my main and now a Swashbuckler and Ranger alt... I'd suggest you need to pay more attention to what you're doing before you jump to conclusions about why a Swashbuckler is outdamaging you.... My lvl 31 Ranger with only Apps is doing about the same damage as my lvl 31 Swash with Masters.</blockquote><p>I think SOE nerfed overly hard for sure and need to address the matter, but I think you need to get a little better at your melee to accompany your bow. Rogues and Assassins tend to be hyperactive in combat to maximise their damage, I'd be interested to know if you're still standing in the one place pressing the same buttons in sequence.... I think Rangers need a bit more, but I personally suspect you're overstating things.</p><p>I'm only experiencing Swashes and Rangers at a comparatively low level though so I might be missing something.</p><hr></blockquote><p>Probably sounding like a stuck record here, but my regular duo partner is a swashbuckler. She and I are the same level (61) and have played together since March/April last year. We're both in legendary (cobalt), with legendary weapons (cobalts and handbag for her, cobalts and bow for me). The only difference are these: she uses normal poisons and I use legendaries, her combat arts are adept I and mine are adept III or Master. Prior to LU20 I outdamaged her 2-3 times. I was over powered. As I said elsewhere, I accept that. Post-LU20, I struggle to best her duo and, with a zerker in the group, regularly find myself third. I am now over-nerfed.</p><p>I respect that others enjoy using all their abilities to the full. So do I and regularly mix melee in with my ranged attacks and a range of attacks involving stunning, circling, stealthing etc. However, in the overall scheme of things, we are not where we were designed to be. The idea that we are are not broken pays no account whatsoever to the way SOE claims to have tiered the classes to do certain jobs. Other classes are broken and need to be "fixed" the same way? It annoys the heck out of me that a conjurer with a scout pet easily outdamages me, but don't think calling for other classes to be "fixed" is going to win us any friends or address the problem.</p><p>The problem is two-fold: intention (where SOE intends to have us) and balance. Those of us who have played the ranger class loyally throughout, have seen it broken, fixed and "fixed" and simply have lost track of what SOE actually intends us to be or do. Are we supposed to be in the top tier of DPS or not? Is our position within the top tier affected by the fact that, along with assassins, we have to buy our damage - or are we merely buying entry to the top tier. If we're not top tier, fine, tell us and adjust our CAs so that we can handle content differently, stuns, melee arts etc.</p><p> I've never bothered with DPS as an issue (prior to LU13 or after) until LU20. Why? Because in the new zones it affects my ability to play the content.</p><p>Do I still have fun playing my ranger? Interesting question. I enjoy the company I keep, I enjoy exploring and I enjoy the challenge of new zones. I don't enjoy relearning my class regularly.</p><p>All kudos to those that think we are not broken and enjoy the game the way they want to play. Please accept there is another point of view. There has to be - what else has turned the ranger forums from one of the most agreeable and informative places to hang around to one where passing trolls drop in when their own boards are slow?</p><p>Those of us who have raised issues, who have passed comparatively, who have looked at the position before and after, can see there is a change. It was in the right direction - it just went too far.</p><p>Ker</p>

[Carna]

<div></div><p>Nah there definately are issue Keredh, and I really am only seeing a very narrow slice of the picture, and wouldn't want to begin to comment on how things unfold later on. I really am just commenting on the lvl 31 Ranger and Swashbuckler I have parked in The Enchanted Lands.</p><p>Next level the Swashbuckler gets their self haste, and I'll be interested to see how they get on in groups.</p><p>At the moment however the Ranger is soloing yellow mobs 3 levels higher (no arrows) as well as the better equipped Swashbuckler... this is a shift from when they were 29th in Zek... I'm wondering if anything has changed.</p><p>The Swash is markedly better against groups of 3 mobs however. Solo, at close quaters the Rangers dps starts to drop off sharply after a while.</p>

[Draughi]

<div></div><div>Check my post on how I think they could fix rangers.  Focus fire could be a money skill.  Concentration buff, but drop the numbers down to be more realistic to have a unlimited buff.  Keep the melee nerfage on the skill.  IF mobs get too tough or are running after yo rear, cancel the buff.  I think this is a great way to increase our DPS and not have to go through another revamp of skills.  </div><div> </div><div> </div><div><a target="_blank" href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=39&message.id=24454">http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=39&message.id=24454</a></div><p>Message Edited by Draughith on <span class="date_text">02-26-2006</span><span class="time_text">12:06 PM</span></p>

[klepp]

<div></div>yea lets not comment w/ a 30 something ranger please....  im only speaking from an end game raid zoned perspective with guildmates simliarly equipped.

[Carna]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>klepp wrote:<div></div>yea lets not comment w/ a 30 something ranger please....  im only speaking from an end game raid zoned perspective with guildmates simliarly equipped.<hr></blockquote><p>Screw you mate. I'll comment with my 30 something anything and you can shove your ivory tower because *gasp* there were Rangers in their 30s affected by this nerf too.</p><p>Had enough of the [Removed for Content] attitudes around here... good luck with your nerf.</p>

[Steezi]

<div></div><p>Carn the thread was started by a t7 ranger askin a question about t7 content... I didnt see it as a bash on your lower level personally :smileysad:</p><p>It just seems that the biggest effect has been on the higher tier rangers... when the content of the game gets harder, and the trivialized abilities we have been given no longer suffice...</p><p>Not that i actually can speak for original poster, this is just what i saw :smileywink:</p>