Hello Rangers...

[GPA_Coyote]

<div>Thank you.</div><div> </div><div>I say that without sarcasm, humor, or anything but sincerity.</div><div> </div><div>THANK you for having a sense of humor in the face of the Ranger changes. I tooke a couple of fun cheap shots while you guys were "down" and got very little flak for it. The fact that most of you were able to laugh despite the bad taste the changes left in your mouth is a testimony to the playerbase.</div><div> </div><div>If you cannot laugh at yourself - who can you laugh at?  I would like however, to point out that this wasn't just a dig at this class; I pick on everyone equally and if I haven't gotten to a class - I will. I laugh where I see it needed..</div><div> </div><div>So thank you...</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>.....</div><div> </div><div>THAT being said...</div><div> </div><div>To all of you "quitting the game"  "signing petitions"  "protesting" and sobbing on a couch eating Ranger bon-bons in a bathrobe, barely able to watch TV through your tears...</div><div> </div><div>...just stop. Really. If you are REALLY "too sad to even log"  "betrayed" "unfairly attacked", you need to stop playing the game all together - because that just isn't HEALTHY.</div><div> </div><div>I'm sure there will now be rebuttals from those who use those words - scathing and powerful with indignant rage -</div><div> </div><div>But to those of you with a grip I say; Thank you...</div>

[Karvar]

<div></div><div><p><span>while your writing was semi funny ... and did make me smile a few times ... I felt you are more of a shock comic that has to get in there and rub a bit of salt in a wound ... so be it .. Everyone has there vices.</span></p><p><span></span> </p><p><span>as far as us being quite about our class ... well that is not going to happen ... so get writing your next funny bash piece ... and let us get back on figuring out how to get our class fix ... be it take whining .. screaming ... to get them to fix us from the shear annoyance factor and to get us to shut up ... or from really listening to us as the community that plays the class and not others crying “nerf rangers” or “I’m not a good as rangers so make me better or nerf them”... </span></p><p><span></span> </p><p><span>personally I do not care how it happens ... as long as it happens ... cause god knows I thank my stars I got a great guild and friends in games that give me groups ... but I shutter to think how it would be solo and </span><span>LFG</span><span> ... I think it would take a week of that before I just gave up ... but as long as I got friends / guild that I get groups with every night .. and keep lvling as fast as we all are... I am able to kind of ignore what has happen to my class and wait it out ... and my guildies are classy enough to not bring the ranger subject up and under stand it is best to stop poking a community when it is down ... unlike some others...</span></p><p><span></span> </p><p><span>Wish you all the best in the world on your next parody piece...</span></p><p><span></span> </p><p><span>Karvar Blackhawk</span></p><p><span>61 ranger </span></p><p><span>unrest<font color="#000000"></font></span></p></div>

[leafnin]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>GPA_Coyote wrote:<div>Thank you.</div><div> </div><div>I say that without sarcasm, humor, or anything but sincerity.</div><div> </div><div>THANK you for having a sense of humor in the face of the Ranger changes. I tooke a couple of fun cheap shots while you guys were "down" and got very little flak for it. The fact that most of you were able to laugh despite the bad taste the changes left in your mouth is a testimony to the playerbase.</div><div> </div><div>If you cannot laugh at yourself - who can you laugh at?  I would like however, to point out that this wasn't just a dig at this class; I pick on everyone equally and if I haven't gotten to a class - I will. I laugh where I see it needed..</div><div> </div><div>So thank you...</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>.....</div><div> </div><div>THAT being said...</div><div> </div><div>To all of you "quitting the game"  "signing petitions"  "protesting" and sobbing on a couch eating Ranger bon-bons in a bathrobe, barely able to watch TV through your tears...</div><div> </div><div>...just stop. Really. If you are REALLY "too sad to even log"  "betrayed" "unfairly attacked", you need to stop playing the game all together - because that just isn't HEALTHY.</div><div> </div><div>I'm sure there will now be rebuttals from those who use those words - scathing and powerful with indignant rage -</div><div> </div><div>But to those of you with a grip I say; Thank you...</div><hr></blockquote><p>But I like my Ranger bon-bons! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />   Seriously though it's not the end of the world for me if I don't like the game I quit playing no dramatic goodbyes to the general population cause I don't care enough about most of the people outside my guild, friends or class to do it.  I just put an arrow in the back of EQ2 and silently move on. I guess it's easier for me to laugh about all the jokes as I do about most the claims other classes have.  They just aren't us it's alittle different once you've been in the Ranger community for awhile.  A Ranger now and always regardless what forest (game) I ward.     </p><p>Falcon</p><p>60 Ranger</p><p>Kithicor </p>

[GPA_Coyote]

<div></div><p>My first char EVER? Ranger. Yet I tell a ton of Ranger jokes....</p><p>Why? Because I can laugh it off. People who get angry and do petitions and sit ins and try to get others to "quit the game" puzzle me.</p>

[Sirlutt]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>GPA_Coyote wrote:<div>Thank you.</div><div> </div><div>I say that without sarcasm, humor, or anything but sincerity.</div><div> </div><div>THANK you for having a sense of humor in the face of the Ranger changes. I tooke a couple of fun cheap shots while you guys were "down" and got very little flak for it. The fact that most of you were able to laugh despite the bad taste the changes left in your mouth is a testimony to the playerbase.</div><div> </div><div>If you cannot laugh at yourself - who can you laugh at?  I would like however, to point out that this wasn't just a dig at this class; I pick on everyone equally and if I haven't gotten to a class - I will. I laugh where I see it needed..</div><div> </div><div>So thank you...</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>.....</div><div> </div><div>THAT being said...</div><div> </div><div>To all of you "quitting the game"  "signing petitions"  "protesting" and sobbing on a couch eating Ranger bon-bons in a bathrobe, barely able to watch TV through your tears...</div><div> </div><div>...just stop. Really. If you are REALLY "too sad to even log"  "betrayed" "unfairly attacked", you need to stop playing the game all together - because that just isn't HEALTHY.</div><div> </div><div>I'm sure there will now be rebuttals from those who use those words - scathing and powerful with indignant rage -</div><div> </div><div>But to those of you with a grip I say; Thank you...</div><hr></blockquote>Your welcome.I have a different view of it all mostly.  EQ2 is a game, something I do for fun.  It got not fun a few days ago, I shrugged and loaded up one of the other games that I have.  That game is fun, when it becomes not fun, then I'll move on again.  When something I do as leisure becomes something that annoys me, or something that starts to take a bigger part in my life than a leisure activity, I quit it.  Its not worth letting something like this affect my life.SOE can do what they want with the class, any of them.  I'll just move on to other fun, no harm, no foul.  My Money + My Time + Their Game =  My Fun.  When their part of our little bargain doesnt pan out, I'll just strike the bargain someone else.</span></div>

[nimbus2kgold]

<div><em><font size="3"><<Curls into her bathrobe, clutching her bow to her chest, rocking back and forth in a fetal position.  The smeared chocolate remains across her face go unheeded as rivers of tears course down her cheecks.  She tries to speak but can hardly get a word out through her hiccoughs and sobs>></font></em></div><div><font size="3"></font> </div><div><font size="3">it's... o-o-ok Coyote <em><<blows her nose>></em> we.. we.. understand.. <em><<lip starts to quiver >></em> im laugh..laugh.... laughing... **waaaaaaa**  <em><<crys uncontrolably >></em> </font></div><div><font size="3"></font> </div><div><font size="3">i wonder if Jerry Springer is on... <em><<feels for the remote, unable to see it through her swollen eyes >></em></font></div><div><font size="3"></font> </div><div><font size="3">(( seriously.. it was a riot.. **grins**))</font></div>

[The_Wind]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>GPA_Coyote wrote:<p>My first char EVER? Ranger. Yet I tell a ton of Ranger jokes....</p><p>Why? Because I can laugh it off. <font color="#ffff00">People who get angry and do petitions and sit ins and try to get others to "quit the game" puzzle me.</font></p><hr></blockquote>Why is that?  You'd rather us be complacent, acquiescent, and overall apathetic about it all?  Nothing ever got done by just sitting there.  How do they even know theres a problem to be fixed, if none of us stand up and say, "Hey look, theres something wrong here."  Being a wise [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] is one thing.  But coming in here and spouting off about the player base and how their "actions" to get something done are beyond reasoning is what is stupid.  Yes, I can laugh it off.  Yes I was a ranger pre-LU13.  I took a two month hiatus because i got bored with my ranger.  Groups would ask me for help and the only response I could come up with was, "why i can do that by myself."  So yes, I expected a nerf, most of us did.  What we didn't expect was to have t2, or t3 classes doing MORE damage than us, or losing most of our effective ability to solo when warranted.   So, being unhappy that we are, we are doing, whatever it takes, to get this fixed.  I am sorry if your "reasoning" cannot fathom the truth or necessity in this.</span></div>

[Bro]

Well.. I'll have to plead ignorance as to what a GPA is, or it's role in the SOE food chain.But.. could you perhaps drag a dev in here to let us know whether our class is working as intended, or whether this is something temporary that's being looked at.If it's working as intended, at least we know where we stand(ie running like hell from even con groups)<div></div>

[GPA_Coyote]

<div>Why is that?  You'd rather us be complacent, acquiescent, and overall apathetic about it all? </div><div>__________________________________________________ ________________</div><div> </div><div>Not at all. How about REALISTIC? Is that too much to ask? Be angry - be hurt - but also realize you were SOLOING content that you SHOULD NOT be able to solo. I don't have a SINGLE character that I'd have the balls to even go NEAR a ^^^yellow con, let alone ROUTINELY seek out for XP.</div><div> </div><div>It was borked - and they unborked it.  [Removed for Content] off a lot of people who were on the uber-bandwagon.</div><div> </div><div>I can see the anger. You had a free ride and its over. I'd be miffed too.  But to quit the game entirely? To BE TOO SAD TO PLAY? To actually encourage others to quit, or petition, or throw tantrums?</div><div> </div><div>Sorry if I can't see through your rage-rimmed eyes, but I have the feeling if I could, the view of the inside of my BUTT would be spectacular.</div>

[Nari]

<div></div><p>Alright, what the heck did I miss?</p><p>I stopped playing my ranger when they broke stealth last spring.  So many things were bugged that I took a 2 month break.  When I came back, my guild needed my healer so I have focused on my templar.  That is an exercise in frustration, but I do what needs to be done.  I took more time off during the hurricane, then I come back again after CU13.  My ranger's abilities work and she is awesome.</p><p>I peek my head in here to see what is up and everyone is [Removed for Content]!  What happened?  I can't even make sense of it because all I see is rant rant rant I'm quitting rant rant rant.</p><p>I haven't picked up my ranger because, well, pvp and all that junk.  Why is everyone so mad?</p>

[Bro]

Play your ranger? See what you think?<div></div>

[Mirdo]

<div></div>Coyote, if the situation means that little to you and you believe the people getting emotional are behaving in a bad way, do you honestly think your post actually counts for anything? You're not stupid, you know it won't. It's a troll post, just like every other 13 year old's troll post that's appeared on these boards recently - you even ask for the flames.The second section of your post was deliberately inflamatory and unnecesary. On the one hand you are remonstrating the emotion and unhealthy posting going on then perpetuating it with an obvious troll. If you truly cared about the state of people's mental health and anger you would have refrained from posting the last section. It was nothing but self-serving.Great job helping to calm the situation.Mirdo.<div></div><p>Message Edited by Mirdo on <span class="date_text">02-24-2006</span><span class="time_text">03:31 PM</span></p>

[The_Wind]

The majority of us aren't upset we got knocked back.  I don't think many of the people, trolls, who come in here to read this understand that point.  What were upset by is that  their 'vision' for rangers has us up with everyone else in T1, yet constantly, consistantly were being outdone by t2 and some t3 classes.  To all the fanbois who played only to be uber, our community is better off without them, and since they're not anymore, we should welcome them back to the wizard forums.  To be sad to play is realistic, to encourage others to petition to get themselves as a whole fixed is realistic.  To the quitters, well...nothing ever got done by quitting before it was finished either.  But if you think that rangers were the only class able to take on mobs which were ^^^ and survive, then you are mistaken.  You'll notice that I haven't commented on ANY of your other posts because I find humor in them.  But your humor is fading in these, when you started spouting off your views.  Yah, i'll argue your views with ya. And it was borked, they borked it the other way, and now were waiting to be unborked again. <div></div>

[dzenith]

<div></div><p>Last year I went down to the local hardware store and picked up a couple hundred dollars worth of wood, stains, nails etc.  You see, carpenting is my favorite hobby and I decided that I would spend my time making the most beautiful coffee table you ever saw.  So I spent over 20 hours a week for over a year patiently building this coffee table.  Just when I was about to finish a guy from the lumber store walks into my garage, takes out a bat, and bashes it to pieces. </p><p>This of course doesn't anger me at all and I just shrug it off.  It wouldn't be healthy to get upset over something like that since after all it is only a hobby and it's only wood.  What kind of rational person would get upset about something like that?</p>

[GPA_Coyote]

<div></div><p>Hmmm...I'll consider the "Troll post" comment because honestly? I can't say that it wasn't....</p><p>The situation "doesn't mean little" to me however.</p><p>The first part was sincere - completely. I had recieved a lot of tongue in cheek comments and most of the ranger community has a GOOD sense of humor. I also felt that I owed a "i'm not JUST picking on rangers"  comment, because I'm not.</p><p>The second part however?</p><p>Hmmm..I thought it a "wake up call" I feel you guys are getting the "Whine and cry boohoo" rep on the boards. When people get nerfed - if it is a MAJOR nerf, the community usually backs them.</p><p>With the petitions and the "too sad to play" and the sorrow and tears - you guys are coming off as...well...cry babies. I'm not saying YOU ARE crybabies - but that's how you are being percieved - even by other Rangers.</p><p>I was going for "wake up call" or "chill with the tears Sally" but I can definately see where it comes off Trollish in reflection - and for that I apologize.</p>

[Mirdo]

<div></div><div></div>Hey Coyote nice use of caps there - you seem more angry than the Rangers about this - maybe you should go dry your eyes somewhere mate - maybe back inte NGD forum? You'll get some sympathy from your adoring fans there<span>:smileywink:</span>.You must have some serious issues if this is angering you so much? Nothing else to do but troll the ranger forums?Oh and do I see a hint of class envy  creeping in there with the rant about the soloing of the yellow triple up's ? Yep I think I do.You attack other people when they are down for your own amusement. You then try and pretend you are better than them because you say you don't  get so worked up over a game. Well from where I'm standing you look pretty riled up now. I guess that makes you a hypocrite that sees other's misfortune as a chance for some cheap laughs to bolster your own feelings of self worth.This thread has zero value now. I'm done here - I would suggest the Rangers leave this one alone - it looks like it's going nowhere - like many threads over this whole business.Mirdo.<div></div><p>Message Edited by Mirdo on <span class="date_text">02-24-2006</span><span class="time_text">03:46 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Mirdo on <span class="date_text">02-24-2006</span><span class="time_text">03:47 PM</span></p>

[Sirlutt]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>GPA_Coyote wrote:<div>Why is that?  You'd rather us be complacent, acquiescent, and overall apathetic about it all? </div><div>__________________________________________________ ________________</div><div> </div><div>Not at all. How about REALISTIC? Is that too much to ask? Be angry - be hurt - but also realize you were SOLOING content that you SHOULD NOT be able to solo. I don't have a SINGLE character that I'd have the balls to even go NEAR a ^^^yellow con, let alone ROUTINELY seek out for XP.</div><div> </div><div>It was borked - and they unborked it.  [Removed for Content] off a lot of people who were on the uber-bandwagon.</div><div> </div><div>I can see the anger. You had a free ride and its over. I'd be miffed too.  But to quit the game entirely? To BE TOO SAD TO PLAY? To actually encourage others to quit, or petition, or throw tantrums?</div><div> </div><div>Sorry if I can't see through your rage-rimmed eyes, but I have the feeling if I could, the view of the inside of my BUTT would be spectacular.</div><hr></blockquote>The problem is that the nerf. the reduction, was too much.  Far too much, its dropp'd my average DPS down to that of T3 DPS.  I'm not one to make stuff up and I like to have facts to back up stuff.  I have posted serveral parses in the forums here, as have other people showing how low the DPS is right now.Soloing on a Ranger now isnt just tough, its down right not enjoyable.  They didnt need to reduce our damage as much as they have to ballnce the class, simply fixing our broken Offensive stance from chain procing poison would have done the trick.</span></div>

[GPA_Coyote]

<div></div><p>Hmmm..anger. Newp.</p><p>None here - perhaps yer projecting yer rangerly angst onto me?</p><p>I'm not looking for fans, or people to agree with me. I don't need it - I stand by my own views.</p><p>You wrote: <font color="#ff0000">Oh and do I see a hint of class envy  creeping in there with the rant about the soloing of the yellow triple up's ? Yep I think I do.</font></p><p>Envy? Wow. You really see that as Envy? Maybe you should take a class on reading emotion through text because pally-oh-mine, yer way off.</p><p>There's no envy. There is incredulous mirth at the fact that you seem to think that soloing a ^^^yellow is your right as a Rangers.</p><p>And before you go analyzing me, lets look at those little delusions of grandeur shall we? You won't get anger out of me. You'll get sarcasm and cheap shots by the truck load. A wise man once says "Olive, I yam what I yam" so I won't even go into defending that...</p><p>But if you think that calling for petitions, quitting the game and people being too sad or filled with sorrow or rage to play is justified and "a-okay" yer more messed up than you could EVER project on to me Skippy.</p><p>Balls in yer court.</p><p> </p>

[The_Wind]

Like I said, your humor i can accept, but when you start to insult the people by spouting off your own personal views, then yes, theres going to be a rebuke.  The majority of other classes were calling for rangers to be nerfed because we were so far out there that they couldn't keep up.  I agree that we were.  What most of those classes now think is "good, now we can compete" but what most rangers are seeing now is, "great, how the hell are we meant to compete like this?"  Being the good ranger that some of us are, we have adapted already and can play effectively, to a degree.  Saying how its because we were able to take ^^^ mobs is pointless as we were not theonly ones who could, yet we were the only ones nerfed.  Thats a moot point.  The communty doesn't back us up because were scaled back finally.  They're happy were not out there.  What they don't realize is just how badly we got scaled back.  What you don't see however is the personal strife between our own rangers.  We will support each other to a great extent.  We always have.  The rest of the classes can call us crybabies, but i'm gonna sit here crying until someone finally pays attention.  Thats the whole point of crying.  To be heard.  Its true, my own guild leader is tired of me talking about it now.  I was told to [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] last night in guild chat.  She's a swashy, oh and she's solo'ing things ^^^ mobs now, just in case you wondered(true they're green, but as a ranger now, we can't even take gray ones).As far as you personally, your humor is warranted, and we know you don't attack one single class only.  I find some of your commenting quite humerous.  But don't come insulting the integrity of our community, we are more than aware of how we are acting.<div></div>

[GPA_Coyote]

<div></div><p>Wind, you seem intelligent, and I'm not about to flame because of that.</p><p>But read what I said..</p><p>I didn't say "Only Rangers can solo ^^^content"  I said "I know other classes can too, and they're broken as well"</p><p>No one should be able to do it, and those complaining that they can't any longer and calling for people to quit the game or commending petitions and leaving are bringing your community down.</p><p>I realize I came off trollish - Honestly, didn't think about it. Its me, and hell, I may be the biggest troll OUT there - but, if you look back through the last five pages of the ranger forum how many CONSTRUCTIVE posts are you seeing?</p><p>Now, take those posts and compare them to the "I quit"  "petition" and the "F you SoE you've ruined the game" posts and see what an outsider sees when coming here.</p><p>It was a change - a warranted change that they all knew was coming. Was it too harsh? maybe...I can't say. The only high level ranger MAIN that I know says he's fine, and its not the hugest of issues....</p><p>But it shouldn't bring sorrow and tantrums and closed accounts..</p>

[Sirlutt]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>GPA_Coyote wrote:<div></div><p>Hmmm..anger. Newp.</p><p>None here - perhaps yer projecting yer rangerly angst onto me?</p><p>I'm not looking for fans, or people to agree with me. I don't need it - I stand by my own views.</p><p>You wrote: <font color="#ff0000">Oh and do I see a hint of class envy  creeping in there with the rant about the soloing of the yellow triple up's ? Yep I think I do.</font></p><p>Envy? Wow. You really see that as Envy? Maybe you should take a class on reading emotion through text because pally-oh-mine, yer way off.</p><p>There's no envy. There is incredulous mirth at the fact that you seem to think that soloing a ^^^yellow is your right as a Rangers.</p><p>And before you go analyzing me, lets look at those little delusions of grandeur shall we? You won't get anger out of me. You'll get sarcasm and cheap shots by the truck load. A wise man once says "Olive, I yam what I yam" so I won't even go into defending that...</p><p>But if you think that calling for petitions, quitting the game and people being too sad or filled with sorrow or rage to play is justified and "a-okay" yer more messed up than you could EVER project on to me Skippy.</p><p>Balls in yer court.</p><p> </p><hr></blockquote>I think your a little fluff'd up on your own importance.. and i am 100% sure you know nothing of the mechanics involved with the "bug fix" or how it affected Rangers specifically.  Anyone with first hand knowledge of how the Ranger class worked pre LU20, and the changes made would know that they fixed the wrong thing, in the wrong way.  You'd know about what skills rangers have and what situations they are used in and how the changes have rendered ineffective a number of our skills.Just like most of the trolls your convieniently missing a lot of the posts where Ranger acknowledge the need for a reduction in our damage.  There is a vast difference in reducing Rangers from 1000 DPS in a group where a wizard is only doin 600 to putting Rangers to doing 300 in the same group against the same mobs.  THAT is what Rangers are upset about, not the reduction itself, but the magnitude.  Step back a second and look a the data presented, ignore the crys of quiting, petitions and OMG .. look at the data.  The only data to go on right now is Ranger supplied, no other classes care enough to supply any and Sony certainly doesnt care enough to provide any hard data.</span></div>

[GPA_Coyote]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Sirlutt wrote:<div><span>I think your a little fluff'd up on your own importance.. and i am 100% sure you know nothing of the mechanics involved with the "bug fix" or how it affected Rangers specifically.  </span><hr></div></blockquote>TELL me you see the irony in that statement.

[kartikeya]

<div></div><p>'Ey, Coyote.</p><p>I laughed. I liked the article. I understand where you're coming from with these extra posts too.</p><p>But (you knew there had to be a 'but', yeah?)...</p><p>When I make a post, an honest post, trying to explain how things are post-LU 20, trying to be reasonable and calm when this really has [Removed for Content] me off, trying to provide coherent feedback as the Devs have asked us to, and am continuously told that 'no, it's not that bad' or 'no, you're lying' or (my favorite) 'haha you've been nerfed go wizards!'...that's rather annoying. When I see other rangers make similar posts with DPS parsers and graphs and comparisons, all equaling up to what I'm seeing, and see the entire community ignore it in favor of 'waa you're just crying you can't solo heroics boo hoo', I start to get frustrated. When those posts are also flooding into the ranger section of the boards, it just torks me.</p><p>Yeah, I know it's not healthy. But I love this game. I love this class. And I'd really like to continue enjoying it, so I make feedback posts. There's only one member of my guild who's the same level as I am, and our schedules aren't often compatible, which means I solo nigh constantly. If I can't solo mobs that were meant to be soloed, well...I'm sure you get the picture. These changes coupled with my rather suicidal exploring habits have set those damned menders up for the next few months at least. XD</p><p> </p><p> </p>

[Mirdo]

Sorry I thought Skippy was a dead Kangaroo star of a now defunct Australian TV show?I didn''t comment whether it was messed up or not. You did. That's fine you are entitled to your opinion but don't try and come across as above all of that when your posts are not helping.It's very easy to sit there and tell somebody it's over the top to quite becasue of the nerfs but maybe that just means those people are actually better off than us that stay - this game doesn't have the grip on them it does some others?<font color="#ff0000">But if you think that calling for petitions, quitting the game and people being too sad or filled with sorrow or rage to play is justified and "a-okay" yer more messed up than you could EVER project on to me Skippy<font color="#ffffff">Just because those people have other priorities and reactions to a situation than you doesn't make them messed up - only in your opinion. You have absolutely no idea who  they are and what they do.  I'm not going to call them messed up so I guess by your definition I am too - I can live with that. You are obviously not stupid. You know any number of those threats won't actually be acted on and are just venting. Why give them so much weight? You know better.Anyway, sorry for the cheap shots, unneccesary, over to you blue.Mirdo.</font></font><div></div>

[Sirlutt]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>GPA_Coyote wrote:<div></div>But it shouldn't bring sorrow and tantrums and closed accounts..<hr></blockquote>And I think thats something we can agree on.  I dont want to retire my Ranger.. but I dont want to spend 2-4 hors a night doing something that isnt fun.  I'm not asking to solo any kind of ^^^ content, I'm not asking to one shot anything, or be miles above anyone else.  I'm just asking to have fun and not feel like I've been shot in the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] and left face down to die.  Rangers are a bow class, yes we cant use our bow skills effectively to solo.  If i wanted to wail on stuff with my melee weapons i'd have been an assassin, and beleive me as an Ogre Ranger that would have been easier.</span></div>

[Sirlutt]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>GPA_Coyote wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Sirlutt wrote:<div><span>I think your a little fluff'd up on your own importance.. and i am 100% sure you know nothing of the mechanics involved with the "bug fix" or how it affected Rangers specifically.  </span><hr></div></blockquote>TELL me you see the irony in that statement.<hr></blockquote>I dont see the irony in that statement.I tell ya what, your a smart guy, good way with words.  Why dont you do some actual research on the effect on Rangers, and write about that.  I dont mean trolling the forums, i mean get some solid data, find out whats at the bottom of this whole mess.  I mean almost the whole Ranger community (cept for your high level buddy) is upset, there has to be something at the bottom of it dont you think ?Or you could write another piece based on fluff, forum trolls and opinions.</span></div>

[kartikeya]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Sirlutt wrote:<div><span>Or you could write another piece based on fluff, forum trolls and opinions.</span></div><hr></blockquote><p>An opinionated troll with peach fuzz, perhaps?</p><p>Do trolls get peach fuzz?</p><p> </p>

[GPA_Coyote]

<div></div><div>Mirdo...here I was gettin' ready for a nice roast and you go and be all sensible and likeable and really [Removed for Content] me off.</div><div> </div><div>I apologize for ANYTHING that came off as angry or trollish - not what I was going for...however, I gotta disagree.</div><div> </div><div>If people are too sad to play, and so overwhelmed with anger and sorrow that they can't even log on as it's been stated in posts - they *are* messed up. THAT is an issue. But I'm more apt to throw labels such as "whack job" than most - so I see your point.</div><div> </div><div>I also concede that I'm not really helping, I'm just stirring up the loonies whom I was pointing out - which isn't good for anyone -not even humor's sake.</div><div> </div><div>The changes can [Removed for Content] people off. They can make people want to bring it to SoE and dev attention....but few are doin' it intelligently. They're screaming, whining and threatening to quit - and while people think that threatening to quit is the "Best way to get SoE's attention"  ..and honestly it may be....Its also the best way to tork someone off to the point where they don't wanna listen because hey - yer leaving anyway and taking your money with you.</div><div> </div><div>Caught the ball - apologized for percieved or actual trolling - and concede the game.</div>

[kartikeya]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>GPA_Coyote wrote:<div></div><div>Mirdo...here I was gettin' ready for a nice roast and you go and be all sensible and likeable and really [Removed for Content] me off.</div><div> </div><div>I apologize for ANYTHING that came off as angry or trollish - not what I was going for...however, I gotta disagree.</div><div> </div><div>If people are too sad to play, and so overwhelmed with anger and sorrow that they can't even log on as it's been stated in posts - they *are* messed up. THAT is an issue. But I'm more apt to throw labels such as "whack job" than most - so I see your point.</div><div> </div><div>I also concede that I'm not really helping, I'm just stirring up the loonies whom I was pointing out - which isn't good for anyone -not even humor's sake.</div><div> </div><div><font color="#ff0000">The changes can [Removed for Content] people off. They can make people want to bring it to SoE and dev attention....but few are doin' it intelligently. They're screaming, whining and threatening to quit - and while people think that threatening to quit is the "Best way to get SoE's attention"  ..and honestly it may be....Its also the best way to tork someone off to the point where they don't wanna listen because hey - yer leaving anyway and taking your money with you.</font></div><div> </div><div>Caught the ball - apologized for percieved or actual trolling - and concede the game.</div><hr></blockquote><p>This I most definitely agree with. I mean, sure, I'm mad, I can understand angry, but most of the threads started in the general forums...*wince*</p><p> </p>

[Echgar]

I think the OP was well intentioned with this thread, but all this thread seems to be doing is stirring up people that don't need more stirring up.  As a result, I need to close this thread down.<div></div>