A level 59 Templar just beat me

[KannaWhoopass]

<div></div><div>As i type this im watching a lvl 59 templar solo the mob that just killed me twice.</div><div> </div><div>It is an azure drake vl 60 ^</div><div> </div><div>i was looking for some stuff to kill , looked like a reasonabe solo area to camp in.</div><div> </div><div>I died twice ..and managed to kill one.</div><div> </div><div>This templar just rezed me ...then fought the mob ...and won ..it took him a little bit to do it.</div><div> </div><div>only had 50% power left when he won ..but he won ......</div><div> </div><div>Im trying to play .. i keep trying to play my guy.</div><div> </div><div>I can't play for more that 40 min before i get so mad ... hit the power on my computer in disgust .</div><div> </div><div>SOE you blew it .. A TEMPLAR MY GOD</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>I had to come back and add that as i alt-tab'd back into the game .. a lvl 60 dirge just killed a lvl 61^ drake in front of me ...he lived with 50% health ...he is a scout but i should be able to kill faster ..</div><div> </div><div>SOE i need to know if yo are looking into this</div><div>I need to know if you are going to fix the ranger class</div><div>cause if you think this is "working as intended " just tell me so ..you have got my cash from expansion .. the least you can do is let me leave and save some of my time .</div><p>Message Edited by KannaWhoopass on <span class="date_text">02-22-2006</span><span class="time_text">05:26 PM</span></p>

[Carna]

<div></div><div>While it is wrong that you struggled so horribly with a mob that other players were able to take and be at 50% capacity, I'm not sure that your implied expectation expressed through shock that a templar should have a harder time soloing than a Ranger is valid.</div><div> </div><div>And I'm sure that dirges would take exception to your expectation that you should perform better than them solo.</div><div> </div><div>You're broken and need fixed, but quit looking down on other classes. You'll only [Removed for Content] them off and alienate them.</div>

[KannaWhoopass]

<div>I have a lvl 50 Templar</div><div>I have a lvl 25 Dirge</div><div> </div><div>I know how they fight ..the fact that a Templar just solo'd a mob that killed me should not happen </div><div>unless you feel i shold start healing.</div><div> </div><div>A dirge is not in the same tier of dps, and to have him kill the mob faster that i can ..yes thats a problem.</div><div>dirge have a dps buff, the disease proc buff, and good debuff spells which should allow him to die slower than me ..not kill faster !!!!</div><div> </div><div> </div>

[Guy De Alsace]

I've had some successes today but it all seems just a little too random to me. Killing the bloom jobbies in Tenebrous Tangle I'd kill one and barely get scratched then get into the red on the next guy. Attacking blue con one up-arrowed mobs I killed them with about 50% health left. Managed a group of yellow con one-downs too without dying.However its getting to be hard to keep up with the guys I was seeing around me. I had Necros basically filing their nails while the pet killed off mobs I was having trouble with. In other cases I was seeing Guardians and Berserkers getting badly mauled and taking forever to kill mobs too.I think results are a little skewed in KoS since there are very few or no single monsters that are one-down arrow. Only solo mobs I've seen have been no arrow or one-up arrow mobs. Cheap Shot being the way it is means its pretty much useless against the one-ups so thats a large slice of world population that is made harder to us more than some other classes and thus KoS has been made "ranger hostile", like the cramped places in EQ2 such as Stormhold where theres no room to fire the bow.Improving mob run speeds and taking away one of our shoot-and-run CA's along with the proc changes has made things is KoS difficult to say the least. One bonus however seems to be the general lack of see invis mobs. Another bonus is expensive poisons will take much longer to wear off so its probably going to be worth spending a decent amount of cash on poisons now. I always bought the store stocked ones because handcrafted were always far too expensive since they ran out so fast.There's no real getting away from the fact that we have been broadsided but I guess like all the classes hit with the nerf bat in time, we just have to live with it. Wonder who is next in the firing line?<div></div>

[Beldin_]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>KannaWhoopass wrote:<div>I have a lvl 50 Templar</div><div>I have a lvl 25 Dirge</div><div> </div><div>I know how they fight ..the fact that a Templar just solo'd a mob that killed me should not happen </div><div>unless you feel i shold start healing.</div><div> </div><div>A dirge is not in the same tier of dps, and to have him kill the mob faster that i can ..yes thats a problem.</div><div>dirge have a dps buff, the disease proc buff, and good debuff spells which should allow him to die slower than me ..not kill faster !!!!<hr></div></blockquote><p>I have a 60 Dirge and 60 Ranger .. also a 38 Brigand .. and Dirge was always way behind them in Killspeed since LU#13. Dirge has .. i think 11 Conc-Buffs to choose from to benefit the party ... Ranger has nothing .. so it can't be right that a Ranger kills slower then a Dirge. Even if i would like to see my Dirge kill as fast as my Ranger before LU#20 :smileyvery-happy:</p><p>Templar is another story .. they can kill maybe higher mobs .. but it takes months or years <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[MrDiz]

Excuse me, but why should a ranger solo better than a templar?

[Tarryn]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>MrDizzi wrote:Excuse me, but why should a ranger solo better than a templar?<hr></blockquote><p>Better, maybe not--faster, definitely.  You outlast the mob by taking less damage, healing, and dealing low damage.  Rangers rely on being able to frontload a lot of damage quickly so we can finish it off with relatively low damage melee before we die or have to run/evac.  Unfortunately, we can no longer frontload damage. (Except for one shot every 15 minutes.)</p><p>You solo slower, but with a much greater margin of error.</p>

[Mirdo]

<div>There is no reason. Maybe faster as our damage output is supposed to be higher but not 'better'. I think the fact he died and the Templar didn't was supposed to highlight the Ranger plight.</div><div> </div><div>One problem we have is our condition soloing is very difficult to estimate as gear, CA levels and varies widely. I'm personally a mediocre solo player  - mainly becasue I have never had to solo often. As such I wouldn't rate my own opinion on our solo ability now as valid of useful. I think my opinion of group ability and basic T6 raids would be close to the mark though.</div><div> </div><div>It might never happen but all classes should be able to solo roughly equal content. Due to the game design it might take some classes longer - is this unfair - yes. The only way I can ever see them effectively balancing solo vs group vs raid ability is to have classes of abilities that work against different classes of targets - and I don't think we'll see an MMO built like that anytime soon.</div><div> </div><div>Mirdo.</div><div> </div>

[MrDiz]

Well actually I dont mind rangers soloing faster or better than me to be honest. I think a templar has the edge in "group/raid desirability" and wouldnt expect to be top of the tree in soloing <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Just get irked sometimes when people say stuff like "My god I coulnt even beat a templar in a duel!".