Mad Ranger your changes went to far...

[Darkzman]

<div>Ranger Dev,</div><div> </div><div>I never used Poison and have lvl'ed to 54 with my Ranger, today after testing what a major change since I didn't use poisons and probally most Rangers do not. I did not expect much in the way of affecting my game play. But wow you have Gimped me I will be forced to buy better arrows and now buy poisons? On a lvl 55 Sabbertooth I could fire off 2 shots, rake him with special close up hits stun and fire one arrow shot and the cats dead and I lost 20% Health, now I loose 50% health and I have to stun twice, lvl'ing has now been slowed down for a non-hard core player like me I feel like I'm sinking in the sands now. This was not a good move by you all, explain How did your changes affect me if I did not use poisons before?</div><div> </div><div>I think Rangers should be offered a respect but then which group is getting nerfed next?</div><div> </div><div> </div><div><img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Jacqz</div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div>

[Sphiriah]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Darkzman wrote:<div>Ranger Dev,</div><div> </div><div><strong>I never used Poison and have lvl'ed to 54 with my Ranger, today after testing what a major change since I didn't use poisons and probally most Rangers do not</strong>. I did not expect much in the way of affecting my game play. But wow you have Gimped me I will be forced to buy better arrows and now buy poisons? On a lvl 55 Sabbertooth I could fire off 2 shots, rake him with special close up hits stun and fire one arrow shot and the cats dead and I lost 20% Health, now I loose 50% health and I have to stun twice, lvl'ing has now been slowed down for a non-hard core player like me I feel like I'm sinking in the sands now. This was not a good move by you all, explain How did your changes affect me if I did not use poisons before?</div><div> </div><div>I think Rangers should be offered a respect but then which group is getting nerfed next?</div><div> </div><div> </div><div><img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Jacqz</div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><hr></blockquote>:smileyindifferent:

[Its Da Ranger]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Sphiriah wrote:<div></div><p>:smileyindifferent:</p><hr></blockquote><p>Exactly <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Hur]

ok let me see if i have this strieght... your complaining that a above even con mob isnt [Removed for Content]?/boggle<div></div>

[Garlicyesterday]

<div>I never said those words up to today but i must say it now!</div><div> </div><div>SoE you guys sucks for what youve done , you just prooved to lots of customers that you dont give a crap about your customers that give you the chance to have a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] job !!!!!!</div>

[Myster]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>Darkzman wrote:<div>Ranger Dev,</div><div> </div><div>I never used Poison and have lvl'ed to 54 with my Ranger, today after testing what a major change since I didn't use poisons and probally most Rangers do not. I did not expect much in the way of affecting my game play. But wow you have Gimped me I will be forced to buy better arrows and now buy poisons? On a lvl 55 Sabbertooth I could fire off 2 shots, rake him with special close up hits stun and fire one arrow shot and the cats dead and I lost 20% Health, now I loose 50% health and I have to stun twice, lvl'ing has now been slowed down for a non-hard core player like me I feel like I'm sinking in the sands now. This was not a good move by you all, explain How did your changes affect me if I did not use poisons before?</div><div> </div><div>I think Rangers should be offered a respect but then which group is getting nerfed next?</div><div> </div><div> </div><div><img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Jacqz</div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><hr></blockquote>So... um... since you didn't use poisons, what exactly was changed for you?</span></div>

[Aegori]

<blockquote><hr>Garlicyesterday wrote:<div>I never said those words up to today but i must say it now!</div><div> </div><div>SoE you guys sucks for what youve done , you just prooved to lots of customers that you dont give a crap about your customers that give you the chance to have a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] job !!!!!!</div><hr></blockquote>In the time it would take SOE to decrypt whatever you just wrote, the message would be lost.

[Sphiriah]

<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>Garlicyesterday wrote:<div>I never said those words up to today but i must say it now!</div><div> </div><div>SoE you guys sucks for what youve done , you just prooved to lots of customers that you dont give a crap about your customers that give you the chance to have a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] job !!!!!!</div><hr></blockquote>lol @ prooved<p>Message Edited by Sphiriah on <span class="date_text">02-21-2006</span><span class="time_text">06:04 PM</span></p>

[Nere]

<div></div><p>boo hoo</p><p>cry me a river</p>

[Darkzman]

<div></div><p>I was asked what changed by one of you that responded, My DPS has changed its much lower than before the update, even though I never used poisions before so I though this shouldn't affect my game play but it has in a Major way. To the idot about the lvl I tested against it was a test, a quick test I killed about 10 lvl 55 SabberCats and before the change always 80% health left, after the change 50% health left, due to lower DPS.</p><p>Why I ask has this affected me since I do not use the poison never needed it before, also now our Arrows have lvl ratings does any other class have to buy arrows to the lvl they are now at, My spell arrows are only lvl 40, I'nm fighting lvl 54-60 mobs.  Why should I have to buy arrows that cost a lot or poison if I don't want too.</p><p>There where more changes than they mentioned for sure.</p><p>I'm a new Player only been on 2 months but upset at this enough to post, and thinking what should I do now.</p><p><img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Jacqz</p><p> </p>

[Sphiriah]

<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>Darkzman wrote:<div></div><p>I was asked what changed by one of you that responded, My DPS has changed its much lower than before the update, even though I never used poisions before so I though this shouldn't affect my game play but it has in a Major way. To the idot about the lvl I tested against it was a test, a quick test I killed about 10 lvl 55 SabberCats and before the change always 80% health left, after the change 50% health left, due to lower DPS.</p><p>Why I ask has this affected me since I do not use the poison never needed it before, also now our Arrows have lvl ratings does any other class have to buy arrows to the lvl they are now at, My spell arrows are only lvl 40, I'nm fighting lvl 54-60 mobs.  Why should I have to buy arrows that cost a lot or poison if I don't want too.</p><p>There where more changes than they mentioned for sure.</p><p>I'm a new Player only been on 2 months but upset at this enough to post, and thinking what should I do now.</p><p><img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Jacqz</p><p> </p><hr></blockquote><div>You stated you didn't use poison for 54 levels.</div><div> </div><div>No one is going to listen to anything you say.</div>

[kartikeya]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Darkzman wrote:<div></div><p>I was asked what changed by one of you that responded, My DPS has changed its much lower than before the update, even though I never used poisions before so I though this shouldn't affect my game play but it has in a Major way. To the idot about the lvl I tested against it was a test, a quick test I killed about 10 lvl 55 SabberCats and before the change always 80% health left, after the change 50% health left, due to lower DPS.</p><p>Why I ask has this affected me since I do not use the poison never needed it before, also now our Arrows have lvl ratings does any other class have to buy arrows to the lvl they are now at, My spell arrows are only lvl 40, I'nm fighting lvl 54-60 mobs.  Why should I have to buy arrows that cost a lot or poison if I don't want too.</p><p>There where more changes than they mentioned for sure.</p><p>I'm a new Player only been on 2 months but upset at this enough to post, and thinking what should I do now.</p><p><img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Jacqz</p><p> </p><hr></blockquote><p>Because your offensive stance procs. If you have any imbued weapons, they proc. If you are using PGT or SSoY, those proc. This affected all procs, not just poisons.</p><p>They've also taken away the ability to use debilitating arrow when you move. One of two ranged attacks that allows for this, which I at least often used for kiting.</p><p>I'm not sure how accurate it is, but all our snares are also listed as only lasting one second long. Someone's been doing lots and lots of little nerfs on top of this proc change. It's very hard to kite. Which means having to go toe to toe. But it's also very hard to kill things with straight up melee. All of the mobs I've tried today were solo, my level and below.</p><p>This is exactly like soloing was Pre LU 13, except then we could use our range abilities on the move.</p><p> </p>

[DxPreist1]

Because thats how rangers and assassins were intended to operate as good dps but with some expense Great dps, if we did as much or more DPS than a wizard with no expense then no one would play a wizard. The down fall to a wizard is always high dps at no cost but no HP and paper armor...... our defense is way higher, thus to get equal dps we need to pay........ if we didnt we would be far superior in every aspect....... now your not.<div></div>

[kartikeya]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>DxPreist1 wrote:Because thats how rangers and assassins were intended to operate as good dps but with some expense Great dps, if we did as much or more DPS than a wizard with no expense then no one would play a wizard. The down fall to a wizard is always high dps at no cost but no HP and paper armor...... our defense is way higher, thus to get equal dps we need to pay........ if we didnt we would be far superior in every aspect....... now your not.<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>My defense is not saving me now.</p><p>I have not tried to kill anything other than solo mobs since the servers came up. This means my level and below. It's a crap shoot on almost every single engagement on whether I'll win or not. If I try to take on a solo marked ^ mob, even blue, I'll die if I don't kite. Defensive stance, offensive stance, high DD poison, high DoT poison, it doesn't matter.</p><p>Want to know the kicker? I just passed a level 60 wizard soloing a 63 ^^^ mob. Root, nuke, root, nuke, nuke, nuke. He had no problem taking it down.</p><p> </p>

[Carna]

<div></div><p>Those quick to slap Rangers around need to get their head around what's just been done to Rangers and wait a day or two to see it for yourselves in action.</p><p>My main is a Brigand, but 2 days ago I took a low level Ranger and Swashbuckler to Zek (same level, very similar gear, swash had an edge on armour, the ranger an edge on weapons) so I could compare after the change... there's simply no comparison now.</p><p>As a Rogue it's my own personal opinion that Rangers suck solo compare to Rogues, and the nature of the change with no compensating changes was unwarranted... and by compensating I mean a root or slow snare or something that enables a Ranger to actually do their thing rather than getting slapped around.</p><p>It's a really really nasty nerf that did nothing for balance and merely took the legs out from under a whole class.... Those on beta gave full and ample feedback on the nature of this change also.</p>

[mighty_fc]

<div></div><p>"it's a really really nasty nerf that did nothing for balance and merely took the legs out from under a whole class.... Those on beta gave full and ample feedback on the nature of this change also."</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>/signed</p><p>we all saw the numerous parses from the beta and the figures doesnt lie now we KNOW they didnt lie, i wonder why SoE choose to trust and and i quote "our guy in beta" .. i wanna know who that guy is and i want the number to his dealer cause he's obviously on something im gonna need if im gonna keep playing my ranger</p>

[TalenMorg]

What Ranger never uses poison? Did you think you were a fighter?<div></div>