Early Feedback: It's Devestating

[Pleiades]

<div>Rangers:</div><div> </div><div>It's over; DPS in real battles is off by a more 5o% compared to the same battles yesterday.  This isn't a nerfing, it's a rending of the class.</div><div> </div><div>Maybe it's the horrendous lag in TT, but you'll have trouble killing blue groups. </div><div> </div><div>There are tons of stealth nerfs too to timers, motion while casting abilities you used to cast on the run. </div><div> </div><div>There is no point to this:  Our armour is weak, we have few effective stuns and slows (and I'm 95% T6 Master I), no group buffs, no massive debuffs, no real pets, no forge of Ro, lol--you're gonna get owned by conji pets.</div><div> </div><div>Other experiences?  Please post here. </div><div> </div><div>-Ple</div><div>"Patiently Awaiting V-SOH"</div><div> </div>

[Garlicyesterday]

<div></div>Only thing i can say is guardian is doing more dps then us now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pleiades]

<div></div>Yeah, it's pretty bad, the parses are horrible/

[Jayad]

<div></div><div>I'm having trouble breaking 300-350dps in a group setting.  Sometimes, I'll get some procs and it'll be 400-450 but not often ( less than 10% of fights ). </div><div> </div><div>Solo dps is around 250-275 dps at best, that's with root, slows, big damage up, etc.</div><div> </div><div>This is with Adeste's still activate, I haven't tried it with a high DOT poison, I expect that will add a bit but not enough to really matter.  Poisons don't proc much.</div><div> </div><div>I would say the nerf is more than 50%, more like 60%.</div><div> </div><div>I'm retiring, screw this.</div>

[Garlicyesterday]

<div>yeah im giving soe a week or 2 to fix it , if not , i got my wow box on my desk and ill switch , im trying to say wow is better or anything , but at least ill be able to play a game that dont do drastic changes every 6months for no reason</div>

[Carna]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Garlicyesterday wrote:<div>yeah im giving soe a week or 2 to fix it , if not , i got my wow box on my desk and ill switch , im trying to say wow is better or anything , but at least ill be able to play a game that dont do drastic changes every 6months for no reason</div><hr></blockquote>The WoW expansion is due out soon with 2 new races so you could even start again fresh and have new content to level up in.

[Smi]

<div></div><span><blockquote><hr>Garlicyesterday wrote:<div>yeah im giving soe a week or 2 to fix it , if not , i got my wow box on my desk and ill switch , im trying to say wow is better or anything , but at least ill be able to play a game that dont do drastic changes every 6months for no reason</div><hr></blockquote></span>Honestly (and absolutely no offense to you), but f--- that.  We TOLD them how devestating this change would be, and they didn't even pay any attention.  Hell they didn't even bother to run any numbers (or just read them here) before slapping in this bs "fix".  I'm not going pay this company another dime for them to mess with hundreds of hours of investment without even THINKING or LISTENING TO ITS CUSTOMERS.<div></div>

[Tasye]

Level 50 ranger, with Pristine Imbued Ironwood Longbow and crappy 26.2 rating weapons...Single up arrow blue mobs, 4 levels below me and my ranged damage is 20% of the total PER fight.35 fights and my bow procced <i><u><b>ONCE</b></u></i>.All my CA are Adept with one Master 2.Now I cannot complete any DoF missions from Tears.<div></div>

[USAFJeeper]

<div>In the short time I got to play my poison damage was down to 17% of my damage down from 40% (when I melee on solo mobs).    THis was by no means an exhaustive test or on the same mobs, I got booted trying to zone so could not do much testing.  Just a quick look and it could be totally off.</div><div> </div><div>Are you pondering what I am pondering Pinky?  Sure Brain, but who needs a ranger when you could have this yummy piece of pie!</div>

[AChampi]

<div>See information posted here for stats:</div><div><a target="_blank" href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=39&message.id=22891#M22891">http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=39&message.id=22891#M22891</a></div><div> </div><div> -Slic.</div><div> </div><div><img src="http://www.eqsig.com/sig/3262.png"></div>

[LyricDawnhag]

<div></div><p>Level 60 ranger.  Pristine imbued ironwood longbow, 2 pristine imbued cobalt weapons, full cobalt armor, Adeste's poison.  All CAs are Adept 1 using summoned arrows.  Using ACT to parse the log.</p><p>Tears instance. </p><p>First two encounters were so close they were one bow shot and melee. </p><p>57 seconds, 70 hits for 9700 damage.  Procs were 2 poison, 1 weapon, 1 quick shot.  DPS: 119.  I took 3600 damage in 44 hits.</p><p>1:11, 46 hits for 12,000 damage (storm of arrows on 3 mobs and trap).  This one ran 12 seconds long because final mob was trapped in the wall.  had to wait till trap broke and he became targetable.  Procs were 3 poison, 1 weapon, 1 quick shot.  DPS 145.  I took 1000 damage in 30 hits.</p><p>level 56 monkey.  42 seconds, 57 hits doing 7600 damage.  monkey hit me 10 times for 1700 points</p><p>Poison proc 1 time, weapon proced 2 times, pants proced once. ZERO quick shot.  DPS 170</p><p>level 57 vengeful spirit.  19 seconds into the fight.  36 hits for 4600 damage.  VS hit me 11 times for 4700.  Note, only bow shot was Amazing shot because I could not get any other bow shot to target him where he spawned.</p><p>poison proc 1 time, weapon proced 2 times but one was resisted, 1 quick shot. DPS 244</p><p>I had to bail out the door for the first time EVER because the spirit was at 30% health and I was done.</p><p>Granted... Tears instances are not our best venue but this is insane.  My 55 Paladin kills faster than this.  I have not parsed my 51 Mystic but I honestly believe she is not too much lower than this.  This is one sample fight.  I tried several others and just could not continue.  Things might be a little better in a group where I can stick to range attacks.  Will try if I can get up the nerve to inflict this urine poor DPS on a group of friends (better be real good friends).</p><p>Rais - 60 Ranger, Orimi - 60 Necromancer, Pfil - 55 Paladin, Sakaki - 51 Mystic on Befallen.</p><p> </p>

[smoody]

<div></div><p>The swashbuckler in my group is consistently out DPS's me. The fury has even outperformed me a couple of times. I have 6 fabled items the rest is legendary. Prismatic sword, Cobalt Rapier and T6 rare imbued dolls. I have 4 Master I's and the remaining are all Adept III. My DPS is down over 50% from yesterday. I am peaking occasionly at 450-490 DPS but I am only getting 280-350 consistently. The changes are too much Sony! A swashbuckler shouldn't be doing more DPS than a ranger. I am running the Advanced Combat Tracker and the results are very disheartening!</p><p>Fredethel</p>

[Kind]

<div></div>I've never posted a flame or a negative comment on the boards before, but if something isn't done to improve our dps very soon I'm done. It just simply isn't enjoyable to play a ranger in our current state and I'm not going to invest the time or the money leveling another class.

[Draughi]

<div></div><div>Yep BS.....out DPS'd by a monk who was 85% autoattack while I was going pretty high with my CA's.  Paladin 60 who was MT for group was sitting an average of 80 DPS lower than me.  I won't even flame SOE.  You really need to unscrew this class Devs.  This should be your first priority with the new combat revamp.  It just plain sucks.  I can't solo jack.</div><p>Message Edited by Draughith on <span class="date_text">02-21-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:08 PM</span></p>

[xfres]

<div>This just in:</div><div> </div><div>Rangers all over Norrath have been drinking water from the sewers and have morphed.</div><div> </div><div>We are now Berserkers without Heavy Armor, but we have a few more bow abilities which hit like a Pally.</div><div> </div><div>We can not solo anything with color because we are too scared to hit something face to face, we must be behind the target!</div><div> </div><div>We have tricked ourselves to believe that the proc on our new imbued rings are much better than our damage procs and no longer have the will to produce multiple damage procs.  We will enjoy our imbued ring buffs for the enduring time of 45 seconds after we kill a mob and wait for another to be pulled all while our buff has dropped and is rolling 3 out 100 chances of procing again<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><div> </div><div>However God Is Looking Over US My Friends,  he has bestowed us with spirit of the wolf so we can run like we stole something when a mob becomes angry with us.  BTW, can we get xp from zoning mobs now?</div><div> </div><div>Let us pick back up our rubber blades and start running to a safe place in Norrath!</div><div> </div><div>Good Luck on finding groups!</div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div>

[Garlicyesterday]

<div>Yup between 225 or so and 350 dps normally , max ive done is 500dps on group encounter , that was with natural selection up , storm of arrows up and sniper shot , go figure</div>

[Knayil]

Well I missed beta, so was hoping all I heard was not true or would change...not the case.Fabled (poets), cobalt, T6 legendary everything else, Pristine imbued ironwood longbow, 2 pristine imbued cobalt weapons, Adept III & master CA's. I am getting thrashed in Tears and stuff I used to solo with ease. My DPS is horrendous in groups, even priest are putting down more DPS than I am able sometimes...In fights I am hitting everything I got, that in the past would have quickly pulled aggro, now I am not even getting the time of day...I even turned off all my hate reductions just to see if I could get aggro, even with stream I wasn't able to. Solo mobs in KoS are not even funny, some of them I can barely win, others I don't even stand a chance in...After my 10th death and standing there naked, I go and repair and decide to duel a few guildies, people in the past I have destroyed in the past.Long story short....we are below even pre-buff levels. This is so depressing, I'll check back in a couple weeks, see if its fixed. If not then I will decide if I want to reroll (and wait for vanguard) or just quit and wait for vanguard...either way I think this is the final straw for me. I lived through this [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] in everquest 1 for 5 [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] years, I'm not going to put up with it again. SoE has a bad track record of doing this to everyone...<div></div>

[Garlicyesterday]

<div>The WoW expansion is due out soon with 2 new races so you could even start again fresh and have new content to level up in.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Your right Carnagh , i just actually saw that about 2 new races playable , which prolly gonna come up with fresh new server , since i just paid eq2 another month on the 15feb , im giving em max 2weeks like i just said , if its still that bad , im gonna move on i guess...</div><div> </div><div>You guys are prolly like yeah yeah whatever quit whinning and just quit , but thats fine if thats what u think</div><div> </div><div>I been in the ranger community for while , was on beta , send tons of feedbacks and bugs and notin changed so , lets see if anything happens in 2weeks</div><div> </div><div> </div>

[BSbon]

<div></div><p>here are the changes that i noticed.</p><p>1) crits appear to be added just like we used to have in EQ1 - bonus <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>2) i can no longer cast crippling arrow on the run - bogus <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> - i use that tactic when one of my archery attacks misses but this was most likly changed due to people kiting group mobs.</p><p>3) my imbued ring changed it's base stats and the buff is proced for 45 seconds - bogus <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> - essentially useless cause it procs off melee and by the time i melee the mob is dead and the buff is wasted on the time it takes to find a new mob.</p><p>4) the problem of shading on spells that require stealth to be used now has an option to turn it off - bonus <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> - this was so messing me up in groups when the fight lasts a few rounds.</p><p>5) when a mob walks out of archery range while you are casting the attack still lands. i like this idea for the reason it was added but there's an exploit there.</p><p>6) attacks that stealth and surveil seem to work faster now. i land the following combo much more often after a cheap shot - pouncing attack, crippling blade, surveil, raven embers - bonus <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>7) procs are down. i dont normally use poisons cause i dont seem to have much trouble with solo mobs. i did group up with my regular pally tonight and i noticed when i used pounce on the 5 pulls he was pulling that my bow didn't proc as much. it used to proc quick shot and gleaming strike a few times at least. now i got 1 gleaming strike on all the pounce attacks i used. probablly 5 uses total. i wasn't keeping track of quick shots. i remember helping a guildie with SBH. our tank pulled like 20 owlbears and i used pounce on them all back when PBAOEs had no mob limit. i think i topped 10k on 1 attack. lucky they were gray cause about 12 of them turned on me.</p><p>there is no more IDDQD for rangers anymore.</p><p>bongo</p><p> </p>

[Niuan]

<div></div><p>I withheld judgement until I experienced it first hand...  HOLY COW!!  at level 49.... I had trouble with level 45 single up arrow mobs...  If I was successful, I was in the red.</p><p>To add salt to my wounds I died three times to single downarrow mobs 4 levels below me.... </p><p>How can they screw us over like this?  I feel like a monkey humping a basketball when I try and solo.  </p><p>Grouping was not much better either... I was in a group with 2 rangers for dps.. might as well been all clerics grouping the dps sucked so bad.</p><p>holy crap!! </p><p>holy crap!!</p><p>holy crap!!</p><p>holy crap!!</p><p>holy crap!!</p><p>holy crap!!</p><p>holy crap!!</p>

[Knayil]

Ya know I thought of something...since SOE likes to nerf people, I think we need to get someone nerfed. A class that never gets nerfed and no one complains about it...I want priest nerfed.Reduce their heals and buffs. Let everyone for once feel the pain of getting another class nerfed. Priest are over powered, especially clerics, but I have seen the druids doing somethings that are just unbelieveable.Reduce the amount of health a priest can heal for, lower the stats the buffs give. If rangers were over powered because of our DPS, then priest are over powered because of their heals, buffs, debuffs, cures and some of them can wear plate armor....=)Vanguard needs to hurry up....<div></div>

[Drevva]

Same result as everyone else it seemsLvl 60 in legednary gear,  adept IIIs and a few masters.Stayed in PoF, as I had hunted there last night so I could better judge the effects, killing lvl 57 -58 gobbies.  Solo groups would take me to half health unless I used storm of arrows, but with a 3 min recast.....  Seems worse than prior to LU13,  can't run and shoot, mobs actually run faster with the run speed boost a few months ago.If I unloaded all my high dmg attacks it went okay, but they all have long recasts so there I am...SIngle ups are really tough, as we can't get them off us (1 bow attack with our stun if we time it right).  and they come in with really high health.I tried to go in hopeful.  But quit after about 30 mins..The thing that bothers me, is they went forward with this ignoring all the parses , beta testers etc.  Yes it may be fixed at somepoint, but why should it need to be?  They had enough information to get balance a lot better than they did.  This isnt' coming as a surprise.  My opinion of the Dev team has dropped considerably.  Folks point out this will be a problem,  show data,  they do it  anyway.I'm also quite certain this was done for PvP ,  the proc mechanics were messed up, and I"m sure that ws giving them fits on the PvP side even if they can adjust dmg numberes etc.  Dont' get me wrong... I have no problem with them fixing it.  I do have a problem with fixing this mechanic and having  the attitude , oh if proc dmg is really that much of your total dmg  we will look into it...  I  just can't imagine having that attitude in my job (which is a software dev)...It seems they gave no throught to solo /small group play with these changes.  I'm sure dps is a bit higher, when the ranger can stay at range in a group situation...Drevva

[Falcu]

<div></div><div></div><div></div>Played after the update today, have cobalt imbued weapons.... was trying to solo some mobs in SS...Can play him anymore, 53 lvls and XXhours spent to get into endgame, NO ALL IS OVER. THANKS SOE !!! I was really like the game :smileysad:<p>Message Edited by Falcula on <span class="date_text">02-22-2006</span><span class="time_text">12:34 AM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Falcula on <span class="date_text">02-22-2006</span><span class="time_text">12:34 AM</span></p>

[swol]

<div></div><p>My main is a conjurer but i love my ranger (reached 57 juste before KoS).</p><p>I will try to log my ranger tonight but what I read scares me.  And what I read is LU 20 ...  </p><p> </p><p>However they nerfed rings also. Now they are pointless and this affects all the classes.</p>

[Sirlutt]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>swolas wrote:<div></div><p>My main is a conjurer but i love my ranger (reached 57 juste before KoS).</p><p>I will try to log my ranger tonight but what I read scares me.  And what I read is LU 20 ...  </p><p> </p><p>However they nerfed rings also. Now they are pointless and this affects all the classes.</p><hr></blockquote>its bad.. but not hopeless.. and my rings actually look better to me now.. +20 AGI and +20 STR plus can proc another +22 and +22 % DPS / Haste.. pretty awesome.</span></div>

[Miguex]

i was grouped with a ranger for most of the night tonite, and on the fights when i went all out, i beat him a few times (im a swashbuckler). most of the time his dps was substantially above mine, not by 1000dps, but by 100 or so a few times. seriously guys, if you could just take a step outside this and see how pathetic every single one of you that is crying doom and gloom is coming off, you'd be embarrassed...not only for yourselves but for your class. you're becoming the druids of eq2...keep crying and maybe they will give you rez like they did druids in eq1. your class was doing dps that it was never intended to do, it was fixed. try playing a completely fubared class like swashbucklers from the first day until a year later before even being remotely fixed.99% of you are coming across as nothing more than crybabies. you're giving soe a week to change things back, guess what its not gonna happen. threats arent going to work, but maybe actual constructive input might help the things that are bugged, or indeed still broken. all you guys are doing is making a laughingstock of your class to those who see how you are handling yourselves. if you want changes, act like intellegent people and state your cases in a logical, factual manner. i assure you that will get listened to far quicker than "i'm in shock, im quitting in a week unless we're fixed".let the flames begin, i expect them. they will just reinforce what i just said. i wont even be checking this thread, it was funny at first but like i said its just pathetic now. you guys are at each others throats and turning on the one ranger who actually is remaining rational and not overreacting.  the fact remains your class was broken and being brought back down to size, where you belong, might actually make you work in groups like the rest of us.<div></div>

[Sirlutt]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>Miguex wrote:i was grouped with a ranger for most of the night tonite, and on the fights when i went all out, i beat him a few times (im a swashbuckler). most of the time his dps was substantially above mine, not by 1000dps, but by 100 or so a few times. seriously guys, if you could just take a step outside this and see how pathetic every single one of you that is crying doom and gloom is coming off, you'd be embarrassed...not only for yourselves but for your class. you're becoming the druids of eq2...keep crying and maybe they will give you rez like they did druids in eq1. your class was doing dps that it was never intended to do, it was fixed. try playing a completely fubared class like swashbucklers from the first day until a year later before even being remotely fixed.99% of you are coming across as nothing more than crybabies. you're giving soe a week to change things back, guess what its not gonna happen. threats arent going to work, but maybe actual constructive input might help the things that are bugged, or indeed still broken. all you guys are doing is making a laughingstock of your class to those who see how you are handling yourselves. if you want changes, act like intellegent people and state your cases in a logical, factual manner. i assure you that will get listened to far quicker than "i'm in shock, im quitting in a week unless we're fixed".let the flames begin, i expect them. they will just reinforce what i just said. i wont even be checking this thread, it was funny at first but like i said its just pathetic now. you guys are at each others throats and turning on the one ranger who actually is remaining rational and not overreacting.  the fact remains your class was broken and being brought back down to size, where you belong, might actually make you work in groups like the rest of us.<div></div><hr></blockquote>run along now... not only are you parsing 100 DPS behind a ranger.. but about 50-100 behind the 56 Guardian i was grouped with tonight. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />feel better?</span></div>

[BixxbyIndestructible]

<div></div>Hey [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]bag, rangers weren't outdpsing everyone by sitting still and autoattacking. Do you realize how [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] our autoattack dps? This "work" you speak of is nothing more or less than we do. I'm sorry you chose the wrong class for what you wanted to do, but our class got royally [Removed for Content] in the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ing [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] by this patch. Go home to your [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]gy pirate board, no one wants you here.Also, jesus christ that Haxx0red [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] is stupid, what the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] is this, myspace?<div></div><p>Message Edited by BixxbyIndestructible on <span class="date_text">02-22-2006</span><span class="time_text">01:07 AM</span></p>

[z3oslo]

<div></div><p>I agree that we have to stay constructive.</p><p>The best way to point out problems is to parse, groups and solo and look at the numbers. Devs must keep in mind that the only thing we bring into groups is DPS and nothing else. They must also keep in mind that we have to pay alot of money to be one of the best DPS classes.</p><p>I will do some serious parsing tonight and see. I suggest others do the same.</p>

[Trollb]

<div>"There are tons of stealth nerfs too to timers, motion while casting abilities you used to cast on the run. </div><div> </div><div>There is no point to this:  Our armour is weak, we have few effective stuns and slows (and I'm 95% T6 Master I), no group buffs, no massive debuffs, no real pets, no forge of Ro, lol--you're gonna get owned by conji pets."</div><div> </div><div>Welcome to the life of every other scout class in the game except dirge/troub.</div><div> </div><div>Please tell me that after a good 6 months of being FOTM you didnt see this coming. It will give me a serious bottom of the guts maniacal laugh that will surely wake my neighbors.</div>

[Mirdo]

<div>Trollboy, in this post as in others you are displaying your total ignorance of the purpose and abilities of other scout classes. You are only here to do as your forum name suggests - Troll.</div><div> </div><div>Have fun with that.</div><div> </div><div>Mirdo.</div>

[klepp]

<div></div><p>i lov ewhen other classes come in and act like they know [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] they are talking about....</p><p>btw.. off topic, anyone know they ALSO nerf'd the size of our trap?  heh.. holyfugging[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]</p>

[Ai064]

<div></div><p><em><strong>Hey [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]bag, rangers weren't outdpsing everyone by sitting still and autoattacking. Do you realize how [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] our autoattack dps? This "work" you speak of is nothing more or less than we do. I'm sorry you chose the wrong class for what you wanted to do, but our class got royally [Removed for Content] in the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ing [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] by this patch. Go home to your [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]gy pirate board, no one wants you here.Also, jesus christ that Haxx0red [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] is stupid, what the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] is this, myspace?</strong></em></p><p> </p><p>Oh man that was funny.  Lately I've found myself wanting to just go on a rampage verbally and see what made it through the forum filters.  So that's what it would look like!!</p><p> </p><p>Seriously, I'm right there with the rest of the frustrated rangers.  Frustrated with the nerf but even more frustrated with the fact that rangers gave their time and effort to demonstrate to the dev team that the nerf was too much and they completely ignored us.  I gave it an honest effort last night and after a while shelved my ranger until someday when he is fun to play again, OR at least can solo the solo mobs that the game intends you to.  Time to break out my 56 monk.  He hasn't been nerfed lately.  Must be time for him to bend over and take it up the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] soon though. </p><p>iiIii SOE</p>

[Venzule]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Garlicyesterday wrote:<div>yeah im giving soe a week or 2 to fix it , if not , i got my wow box on my desk and ill switch , im trying to say wow is better or anything , but at least ill be able to play a game that dont do drastic changes every 6months <font color="#ffff00">for no reason</font></div><hr></blockquote><p>Its BECAUSE they are trying to be like WOW.   Ironic isn't it.</p><p> </p><p>In trying to get a slice of the 5 million subscriber pie, they will ruin their own lands and send every subscriber to the very company they are trying to compete with!! </p><p> </p><p>SOE didn't want to be the niche market where they were still paying the bills and they had many fans,  They want to BE the market everyone looks to compete with like the old days of EQ.</p><p> </p><p>Sadly EQ1 gave them a big head and they thought they were untouchable by any other MMO.  To bad there weren't any other MMO's!! when they proclaimed themselves to be the greatest!!</p><p> </p><p>I am enjoying every minute of watch John Smedley destroy the EQ dynasty and SOE with it.  SWG, EQ2, MATRIX.</p><p> </p><p>FIRE JOHN SMEDLEY!!    Trust me... if this keeps up... its gonna happen.</p><p> </p>