A Warm and Fuzzy Answer from Blackguard - link to LU20 feedback thread

[GrayStorm]

<div></div><div></div><div> </div><div><a target="_blank" href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=testdev&message.id=8916">http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=testdev&message.id=8916</a></div><div> </div><div>uh, yeah.  you know what to do.</div><p>Message Edited by GrayStorm on <span class="date_text">02-21-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:15 AM</span></p><p>Message Edited by GrayStorm on <span class="date_text">02-21-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:34 AM</span></p>

[Fennir]

<div></div>why bother, kids are kids<p>Message Edited by Fennir on <span class="date_text">02-21-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:24 AM</span></p>

[Tasye]

Post that on Fohguild's website. SoE devs post there and not on these boards.<div></div>

[GrayStorm]

<div></div><p>what do you want me to do?  shut up and let them beat on me?  don't you have any fight in you?  If you quietly and politely post your concerns then they won't think we're THAT upset, and we'll be low priority. </p><p>I'm so sick of people trying tell me how to F'g post.  You do it your way, and I'll do it my way.  In the meantime, stay the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] out of my way.</p><p> </p>

[Fennir]

sounds like its time for someone's nap<div></div>

[GrayStorm]

<div></div><div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>Fennir wrote:<div></div>why bother, kids are kids<p>Message Edited by Fennir on <span class="date_text">02-21-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:24 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote><p>Why'd you change your original post?  You said something like "if you don't want to ever get a response from the dev, just keep it up"</p><p>Well guess what?  Blackguard just responded to me in the above thread.  Don't bother to read it though, because I'm just wasting my time right?</p><p> </p><p>Message Edited by GrayStorm on <span class="date_text">02-21-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:32 AM</span></p><p>Message Edited by GrayStorm on <span class="date_text">02-21-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:35 AM</span></p>

[Fennir]

hey, i'm just as surprised as you that a dev responded to your woe is me posti'm a lot less surprised that he lied to youthanks for fighting the good fight though, you are going to bring massive changes to our class if you keep up the informative insightful posting<div></div>

[GrayStorm]

<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>Fennir wrote:hey, i'm just as surprised as you that a dev responded to your woe is me posti'm a lot less surprised that he lied to youthanks for fighting the good fight though, you are going to bring massive changes to our class if you keep up the informative insightful posting<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>I've seen you troll up and down these boards attacking people with your self-righteous bs.   Calling me a kid and attacking my posting style just makes you look like a jerk.  Keep up the good work <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p> </p><p>Message Edited by GrayStorm on <span class="date_text">02-21-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:42 AM</span></p>

[Fennir]

you make a good pointnext time i dont get my way i will scream like a little girlfor interestings sake<div></div>

[StealthM0]

<div></div><blockquote><hr><span> <blockquote><hr>GrayStorm wrote:<div></div><p>Blackguard, wasn't it you that said that the tier 1 dps classes are predators and sorcerors?</p><p>Then why are you nerfing ranger dps down to pre-LU13 status?  (low Tier 3 at best)</p><p>You guys really hate us or something?</p><hr></blockquote>We aren't. Most of the complaints were based on assumptions. One of our APs has a 60 Ranger on Live, and we had him copied over and tested thoroughly. While his DPS dropped, he was still the top DPS or second in every encounter he used Poisons. In encounters he did not use them, he was still in the top 4. We also examined the DPS graphs in-depth, and they appeared very high, if not at the top, of the list in almost all situations.</span><div></div><p><font color="#999999">Ryan "Blackguard" Shwayder</font><a target="_blank" href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=stationplayers&message.id=19673#M19673"><font size="1" color="#000000"><u>Beware the $label.get($MinFac)</u></font></a></p><hr></blockquote>This looks a little promising, perhaps the dark clouds on the horizon are not as bad as we first thought. I do know not all changes made on test make it to live, perhaps they have <3 for us scouts/rangers after all.

[Fennir]

I heard they put some sort of effect on quivers yesterday.  A proc or something.  Maybe its enough to re-tier us. =)<div></div>

[Sirlutt]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>Fennir wrote:I heard they put some sort of effect on quivers yesterday.  A proc or something.  Maybe its enough to re-tier us. =)<div></div><hr></blockquote>Thats all we need.. lol. another proc.. procs are what got us into this mess.I think i'd be happier if they upped our CA damage and reduced ourreliance on poisons... at least our damage would be more predictable.</span></div>

[GrayStorm]

<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>Fennir wrote:you make a good pointnext time i dont get my way i will scream like a little girlfor interestings sake<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>...and you trolling the boards and attacking people is really adding a lot.  At least I got a response...meanwhile you were too busy trying to start a fight with me to even post on that thread.  Loser.</p><p>furthermore, how exactly was my post in that thread in any way similar to a screaming little girl?</p><p>Message Edited by GrayStorm on <span class="date_text">02-21-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:48 AM</span></p>

[Fennir]

I most certainly posted on that thread.Right around the time you were whining like a little girl, then rolling over like a puppy when the dev told you what you wanted to hear.  Way to stick to your guns against a guy who didn't know where ranger damage came from 3 days ago.<div></div>

[jagermiester]

<div>You guys should duel.....with the wet noodles that our bows are firing now.</div>

[Saihung23]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>GrayStorm wrote:<div></div><p>what do you want me to do?  shut up and let them beat on me?  don't you have any fight in you?  If you quietly and politely post your concerns then they won't think we're THAT upset, and we'll be low priority. </p><p>I'm so sick of people trying tell me how to F'g post.  You do it your way, and I'll do it my way.  In the meantime, stay the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] out of my way.</p><p> </p><hr></blockquote><p>Daaaaaammmmmnnnnn!!   ITs TRUE!!!    911 is a joke in my town and SOE can kiss my [Removed for Content] after I wipe it with a printed copy of LU20!</p><p> </p><p>[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]es and Cake...that is all I ever wanted...not some stupid pie.</p>

[Fennir]

Yesterday my raid leader yelled at the raid to get me up fast when I died.Then he said "tomorrow, you can leave him down."I cried like a little girl too =(<div></div>

[Dirtgirl]

<div></div><font color="#99ff99">Sounds like my raids last night....</font>

[GrayStorm]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Fennir wrote:I most certainly posted on that thread.Right around the time you were whining like a little girl, then rolling over like a puppy when the dev told you what you wanted to hear.  Way to stick to your guns against a guy who didn't know where ranger damage came from 3 days ago.<div></div><hr></blockquote>That's funny, because you attacked my OP in this thread at 8:17 and your first post to the feedback thread was at 8:28.  Oh that's right, you didn't post until after Blackguard responded.  You never intended to add anything to that thread.  You were too busy attacking me.  Now ST FU.

[Fennir]

That's not true.  First I was busy attacking you, then I was busy attacking Blackguard's pithy response to you.  Afterwards, I was forced to do both, but I'm quite capable of multitasking.<div></div>

[GrayStorm]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Fennir wrote:That's not true.  First I was busy attacking you, then I was busy attacking Blackguard's pithy response to you.  Afterwards, I was forced to do both, but I'm quite capable of multitasking.<div></div><hr></blockquote>don't you mean multi-trolling?

[Fennir]

Trolling would be posting just to get a response.  I don't give a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] if you respond to me.  If I think what you're saying is stupid, I'm gonna say so. I also find it quite amusing that you think a dev response to your childish posts somehow validates your complete lack of a point.  In all reality, all you did was give BG an easy post to respond to while the devs continue to ignore many informative and constructive posts.<div></div>

[Dirtgirl]

<div></div><font color="#99ff99">He still hasnt responded to what i feel are real concerns, and well stated ones in there :smileysad:just a nice vague "our AP(or whatever) has a ranger in test and he is still in the top 4"Prolly full fabled all masters and all AAs ta boot. Still no word on broken things like arrows and weapons</font>

[Mirdo]

<span><blockquote><hr>Fennir wrote:Yesterday my raid leader yelled at the raid to get me up fast when I died.Then he said "tomorrow, you can leave him down."I cried like a little girl too =(<div></div><hr></blockquote></span>That's even more funny than your running fight in this thread. But that too is bringing a smile to my face. Please - keep flinging those noodles at each other - or better still, attack me for some variation <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I could do with some light relief from the whole Proc nerf thing.I've gone through anger and now out the other side into resignation but nerves are frayed from keeping up with all the posts on the boards.Mirdo.<div></div>

[Dirtgirl]

<div></div><div></div><p><font color="#99ff99">Well BG went from a couple fluff answers in LU20 concerns thread to this....</font></p><p>We're going to run some games here on the EQII forums during the downtime for KoS launch. The first one I'd like to start is called "The Story is Telling." Write a quick paragraph that continues the storyline I begin.The bitter wind buffeted my uncovered face with millions of icy daggers. It was cold. Colder than I could have ever imagined Everfrost to be. I suppose it's what I should have expected given its all-too-appropriate name. I took a wrong turn on my way to Antonica and ended up in this hellish frozen tundra. But time wasn't pressing, so I decided to check things out a bit. After nearly being mangled by a megalodon, I decided I was better off in my ship and will continue the journey to Antonica after procuring a few provisions.</p><p><font color="#ff0000">Ryan "Blackguard" Shwayder</font><a target="_blank" href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=stationplayers&message.id=19673#M19673"><font size="1" color="#000000">Beware the $label.get($MinFac)</font></a></p><p><font color="#99ff99">and this...</font></p><div>The winner of this forum game wins a prize!</div><div> </div><div>Rules: Put Blackguard in some of the strangest places that you can think of, it can be fun, but remember to follow the forum rules of appropriate content.</div><div> </div><div>Winner: The winner will be the person who made the most entertaining photochop. The winner will be decided by a panel of judges.</div><div> </div><div>Picture: <a target="_blank" href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/images/en/community/screenshots/bg2.jpg"><font color="#c8c1b5">Here's your picture to use</font></a>...</div><div> </div><div><font color="#99ff99">** NO picture shows up</font></div><p>Message Edited by Raijinn Thunderguard on <span class="date_text"><font color="#756b56">02-21-2006</font></span><span class="time_text">09:44 AM</span></p><p><font color="#ff0000">Regards,Joel "Raijinn Thunderguard"</font><font color="#99ff99">And the response....</font></p><p>Oh noes...</p><p><font color="#ff0000">Ryan "Blackguard" Shwayder</font></p><p><font color="#99ff99">I have warm fuzzies, how about you?</font><a target="_blank" href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=stationplayers&message.id=19673#M19673"><font size="1" color="#000000">Beware the $label.get($MinFac)</font></a></p><p>Message Edited by Dirtgirl on <span class="date_text">02-21-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:00 AM</span></p>

[klepp]

<div></div>ffs how can anyoen say " oh it might not be that bad" when we're still kicking out money and alot of it to struggle to stay in the top dps teir?  no way.. thats absolute 100% cut and dry bs....   seriously.. take poisons out all together, and up our ca damage.  I can stomach having to summon arrows for a few hours before i get a group...  but paying plats to stay anywhere near the top teir is just insane.  God forbid we stop using poisons.. where would that put us? lol i almost find this funny..

[Jay]

<div></div><blockquote><p></p><hr>Saihung23 wrote:<p>Daaaaaammmmmnnnnn!!   ITs TRUE!!!    <font color="#ffff33">911 is a joke in my town</font> and SOE can kiss my [Removed for Content] after I wipe it with a printed copy of LU20!</p><p></p><hr></blockquote><p>ROFLMAO</p><p>I don't even care about the hating going on here, Sai wins 20490355489 bonus points for referencing Flava Flav in the middle of bickering rangers... kudos man, you just made this thread worthwhile <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[leafnin]

<div></div><p>I have a better chance of procing the winning Powerball lottory ticket then procing poison off a CA Woot  /jk <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p> </p><p>Falcon</p><p>60 Ranger</p><p>Kithicor</p>

[GrayStorm]

<div></div><div></div><p>Fennir,</p><p>Validation? </p><p>I created this thread.  You instantly replied and said I would never get a response... actually you said it in a rather insulting way...  you said something like "keep posting like that and we'll never get a response from the dev's again".   Then seconds later BG responded.  I never said that it validated anything other than the fact that you are a [Removed for Content] and were wrong from the very beginning about how someone needs to post to get a response from them.  Now that he did respond you try to downplay it and turn it into a bad thing.  But you still jumped at the chance to reply to him.</p><p>So give it up.</p><p>You suck at life.</p><p> </p><p>Message Edited by GrayStorm on <span class="date_text">02-21-2006</span><span class="time_text">10:37 AM</span></p>

[GrayStorm]

<div>...and your momma wears combat boots</div>

[mill94]

i hear ranger still do 4,000 dps, they might need a little more tweaking<div></div>

[Racmo]

<div>She does not!!  I know from semi-reliabilty sources that she wears fuzzy rabbit slippers!  Wait....who's mother are we talking about?</div><div> </div><div>Tobi</div>

[Fennir]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>GrayStorm wrote:<div></div><div></div>I won't respond to Trollboy again<hr></blockquote>Fixed your post back to what it was before you edited.Stick to your guns, kiddo.</span></div>

[Jay]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>GrayStorm wrote:<div></div><div></div><p>So give it up.</p><p>You suck at life.</p><hr></blockquote><p>/yawn</p><p>Grow up, Skeet. You're being ridiculous about this popularity contest with the Devs. Since when do you care so much about Fennir's opinion of your posting style that it's worth working yourself into such a frenzy over his remarks?</p><p>Post whatever the hell you want, wherever you want, and deal with the results like a man. If you're going to go the aggressive "I'll say what I want!" route, don't get your panties in a bunch when someone does the same right back at you.</p><blockquote> </blockquote>

[GrayStorm]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Jay42 wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>GrayStorm wrote:<div></div><div></div><p>So give it up.</p><p>You suck at life.</p><hr></blockquote><p>/yawn</p><p>Grow up, Skeet. You're being ridiculous about this popularity contest with the Devs. Since when do you care so much about Fennir's opinion of your posting style that it's worth working yourself into such a frenzy over his remarks?</p><p>Post whatever the hell you want, wherever you want, and deal with the results like a man. If you're going to go the aggressive "I'll say what I want!" route, don't get your panties in a bunch when someone does the same right back at you.</p><blockquote> </blockquote><hr></blockquote>yeah yeah, I know.  I'm just really bored, and he is such a willing participant.  I'll shut up now and stop trolling.

[Mirdo]

aaaw, c'mon guys, your sparring was much more entertaining that the forum games :/<div></div>

[Fennir]

i just tried to go to the bathroom and missed the bowl and then tried to wash my hands but forgoti really do suck at life =(<div></div>

[leafnin]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Fennir wrote:i just tried to go to the bathroom and missed the bowl and then tried to wash my hands but forgoti really do suck at life =(<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>Ewwww...don't you dare touch my post with those filthy hands!!  <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Falcon</p><p>60 Ranger</p><p>Kithicor</p>

[Echgar]

The bickering back and forth, attacks, and namecalling here leave me little choice but to close down this thread.<div></div>