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Pleiades
02-20-2006, 01:36 AM
<div>Why continue to nerf ranger and assassin damage?  I know the proc. changes are not directed solely at us, but it hurts us, and badly.  Those proc’s are a major part of our damage.</div><div> </div><div>Could we look at increasing the damage done by ranger /assassin stance procs to balance it?  Or decrease the re-use on several of our timers?  This proc. change is going to be a large hit.</div><div> </div><div>Remember, we are supposed to do more damage—we can’t do that much else in a group or raid.  No group buffs, taunts, heals, debuffs, “real” pets, etc.  Need to nerf?  Have you seen the DPS a simple conji pet does with no special effort from the caster--esp. in group encounters?</div><div> </div><div>Please remember the mandate of rangers and assassins:  damage.  If other class can easily do the same damage as us, the game <strong>isn’t</strong> balanced.  Damage is what we're meant to do.</div><div> </div><div>-Pleiades</div><div> Highk--er, ah Butcherblock</div><div> </div>

Jayad
02-20-2006, 03:19 AM
<div></div><div>First they nerfed the guardians.  I didnt' say anything, because I wasn't a guardian.  Then they nerfed the illusionists.  I didn't say anything, because I wasn't an illusionist.  Then they nerfed the rangers, and there was nobody left to say anything.</div><div> </div><div><img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><div> </div>

MegaDavidoff
02-20-2006, 05:59 AM
<div><font color="#00cc00">Good</font> point & I <font color="#cc0000">totaly agre</font> :smileymad:</div>

Gareorn
02-20-2006, 06:14 AM
<div>Naw, summoners still have better DPS than sorcerers.  You know the wizzy's and warlocks won't stand for that.  As soon as LU20 goes live, I'm sure their forums will be trolled as heavily as ours has been the past few months.</div>

meest
02-20-2006, 07:46 AM
<span><blockquote><hr>Gareorn wrote:<div>Naw, summoners still have better DPS than sorcerers.  You know the wizzy's and warlocks won't stand for that.  As soon as LU20 goes live, I'm sure their forums will be trolled as heavily as ours has been the past few months.</div><hr></blockquote>I'm still waiting for the day when all the wizzy's and warlocks Constant [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ing and Moaning catches up to them and Bites them in the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn].... God that will be a day to remember.As we all know its only a matter of time.</span>First they ignore you <font color="#0066ff"><---- When the Game went live</font>Then they laugh at you <font color="#00cc00"><--- Before LU #13</font>Then they fight you <font color="#ff0000"><---- We're at this stage right now</font>Then you win <font color="#ffcc00"><--- The Day to Remember When Wizzy's get the the bat</font>-Ghandi<div></div>

Sova
02-21-2006, 03:40 AM
<div>lol this is just like the jedis, when CU arrived in SWG, these forums are almoste the same now, SWG and EQ2 forums, but i can only blame SOE</div>

KudLenka
02-21-2006, 03:53 AM
i dont get this. I do not care about how good are other classes. I couldnt care less if necros do three times our dmg with no cost. I do not compete with anyone. I enjoy playing against the environment. And i am not parsing my damage as ranger or as inquisitor or any other character i play. No, i dont measure my [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] size against other guys neither.What i am concerned about is the enjoyability of the class i play. That means for me: am i able to play the style i like? Am i able to have fun? Am i usefull when my friends need me? That matters. Nothing else.What is the problem then? PvP balancing taking our ability to damage enemies and kill things before they kill us isnt making the game more fun for rangers. I didnt mind long lasting fights as inquisitor. I felt like a turtle - slow but almost unkillable.I didnt die a lot when i picked my targets wisely - and those were even mobs few level higher than me. I even do not mind that i sometimes die with ranger when i am not up to fire up my second ranged combat art or when i am stupid enough to fight without poison. I take it as a fair trade - or i kill things fast or i get smashed. Now what will remain? Killing relatively safely green mobs? Is that fun or rewarding? I dont think so. And i am affraid. I was so happy for LU19 which allowed me to play ranger the way i wanted - from start with a bow. I dont want to spend 70% of the fights being banged on my head.

Pleiades
02-21-2006, 11:36 PM
<div>Xen:</div><div> </div><div>The game needs to be balanced; if you don't care don't worry about it.  But many of us do care.</div><div> </div><div>Balance is key to group, and more importantly, raid class selections.  If we cannot offer a raid or group the max-damage we were meant to do--something that balances us against other, more generally useful classes--it's a waste!</div><div> </div><div>-Ple</div><div> </div>