How many people have lurked here and are now so concerned about lu 20 they are begining to post?

[jagermiester]

<div>    I for one have been around the boards but never posted. I prefer to play the game and discuss in game issues in server channels and with friends. I throughly enjoy playing this game. I played eq1 for a long time. I love the lore and love the connections to a game 500 years in the past . This impending <strong>class destroying nerf</strong> has me bitter and angry though. I played eq1 i was the but of many sacrifical ranger jokes. I was a pretty [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] good ranger all things considered too. But i was still that a ranger a broken class that never was truely fixed.</div><div>  When i started Eq2 i was never going to play a ranger. I rolled a guardian i rolled a templar i rolled an assasin. Then i rolled a ranger. Right from level 20 when i got my <strong>RANGER</strong> title i was proud. The class was everything that the eq1 ranger was lacking. I was a <strong>DEADLY</strong> ranged killer. I loved it. My job was dps and i quested for items to maximize this effect. I learned how to time my cas to not draw aggro ( too much) cause we all know if that x 4 epic mob thinks that you shouldnt hit it so hard the next thing you are doing is /t templar "Rez please".</div><div>   Now all things considered yes we are powerful dps dealers. We pay for this right. Over a plat a night on T6 legendary poision and armor repair. Sometime i need a off night to go farm with a healer and a tank just to get the loot to continue to play the way i play. Do any other classes (that arent crafters obviously)have to take a day just to farm for plat so you can continue to be usefull to groups and your guild? If we are so far out of wack then why dont you bring our bow delay down? Mabey bring the other t1 dps classes up a little bit. A sweeping change like this is not the answer. This game is almost 2 years old now there is no reason to <strong>destroy</strong> the current game mechanics.</div><div>     Please join me in saving our rangers. I know you all have a ranger friend that you turn too when the mob is beating on you and say...help please kill this. The ranger does even though we are probally dying as our last arrow is flying. We want class balence not widespread nerfing. We pay for our extra dps every hit we proc a poision.</div><div> </div><div>Thank you if you took the time to read this.</div>

[xMiLoSiSx]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>jagermiester wrote:<div>    I for one have been around the boards but never posted. I prefer to play the game and discuss in game issues in server channels and with friends. I throughly enjoy playing this game. I played eq1 for a long time. I love the lore and love the connections to a game 500 years in the past . This impending <strong>class destroying nerf</strong> has me bitter and angry though. I played eq1 i was the but of many sacrifical ranger jokes. I was a pretty [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] good ranger all things considered too. But i was still that a ranger a broken class that never was truely fixed.</div><div>  When i started Eq2 i was never going to play a ranger. I rolled a guardian i rolled a templar i rolled an assasin. Then i rolled a ranger. Right from level 20 when i got my <strong>RANGER</strong> title i was proud. The class was everything that the eq1 ranger was lacking. I was a <strong>DEADLY</strong> ranged killer. I loved it. My job was dps and i quested for items to maximize this effect. I learned how to time my cas to not draw aggro ( too much) cause we all know if that x 4 epic mob thinks that you shouldnt hit it so hard the next thing you are doing is /t templar "Rez please".</div><div>   Now all things considered yes we are powerful dps dealers. We pay for this right. Over a plat a night on T6 legendary poision and armor repair. Sometime i need a off night to go farm with a healer and a tank just to get the loot to continue to play the way i play. Do any other classes (that arent crafters obviously)have to take a day just to farm for plat so you can continue to be usefull to groups and your guild? If we are so far out of wack then why dont you bring our bow delay down? Mabey bring the other t1 dps classes up a little bit. A sweeping change like this is not the answer. This game is almost 2 years old now there is no reason to <strong>destroy</strong> the current game mechanics.</div><div>     Please join me in saving our rangers. I know you all have a ranger friend that you turn too when the mob is beating on you and say...help please kill this. The ranger does even though we are probally dying as our last arrow is flying. We want class balence not widespread nerfing. We pay for our extra dps every hit we proc a poision.</div><div> </div><div>Thank you if you took the time to read this.</div><hr></blockquote><p> </p><p>No offense but if you needed help to farm on your ranger, you don't know your class.</p><p> </p><p>For those who consider this nerf a huge one, you also need to learn your class. Whoever though our Proc rates weren't broken are obviously idiots, or ignorant. Usually ignorance implies some essence of the first.</p><p>So, to whine about them FINALLY fixing the poison proc rate. =.. Just give it up. Get used to having a 15% proc rate, instead of an 80%.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Or delete your ranger and make a Wizard. Hi ho Tier One DPS.</p>

[jagermiester]

<div></div>In dungeons sometimes we arent the greatest solo class. I also like the company of my friends while we fight. Mabey you can do better well cheers to you. This is a wide spread class changing nerf and if you dont think poision and proc rate in general is a Huge part of your class then you my fellow ranger dont have a clue as to what you are talking about.

[xMiLoSiSx]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>jagermiester wrote:<div></div>In dungeons sometimes we arent the greatest solo class. I also like the company of my friends while we fight. Mabey you can do better well cheers to you. This is a wide spread class changing nerf and if you dont think poision and proc rate in general is a Huge part of your class then you my fellow ranger dont have a clue as to what you are talking about.<hr></blockquote><p>I never said the proc rate wasn't a huge part.  It's obviously a huge part of our DPS, as well as our soloing ability, however, this does not mean that our proc rate wasn't just a teeny bit too high.</p>

[jagermiester]

<div></div><div>The changes described in lu20 are insane. If i have poisions/stun/debuff on that proc 25percent 15percent and 15percent plus archers frenzy adding a 30 percent chance and an ironwood bow adding a 5percent chance why shoul not at least 1 proc go off on every arrow? Is this not why i have all these items/poisions? What they are implmenting is a class crushing change. Dps down by 45percenton test server. Not to mention stun soloing......I mean sometime you got to kite cause we all know we cant melee worth of jack. But really too widespread of a chang and nothing to offfset the loss.</div>

[coltla]

<blockquote><hr>xMiLoSiSx wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>jagermiester wrote:<div>    I for one have been around the boards but never posted. I prefer to play the game and discuss in game issues in server channels and with friends. I throughly enjoy playing this game. I played eq1 for a long time. I love the lore and love the connections to a game 500 years in the past . This impending <strong>class destroying nerf</strong> has me bitter and angry though. I played eq1 i was the but of many sacrifical ranger jokes. I was a pretty [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] good ranger all things considered too. But i was still that a ranger a broken class that never was truely fixed.</div><div>  When i started Eq2 i was never going to play a ranger. I rolled a guardian i rolled a templar i rolled an assasin. Then i rolled a ranger. Right from level 20 when i got my <strong>RANGER</strong> title i was proud. The class was everything that the eq1 ranger was lacking. I was a <strong>DEADLY</strong> ranged killer. I loved it. My job was dps and i quested for items to maximize this effect. I learned how to time my cas to not draw aggro ( too much) cause we all know if that x 4 epic mob thinks that you shouldnt hit it so hard the next thing you are doing is /t templar "Rez please".</div><div>   Now all things considered yes we are powerful dps dealers. We pay for this right. Over a plat a night on T6 legendary poision and armor repair. Sometime i need a off night to go farm with a healer and a tank just to get the loot to continue to play the way i play. Do any other classes (that arent crafters obviously)have to take a day just to farm for plat so you can continue to be usefull to groups and your guild? If we are so far out of wack then why dont you bring our bow delay down? Mabey bring the other t1 dps classes up a little bit. A sweeping change like this is not the answer. This game is almost 2 years old now there is no reason to <strong>destroy</strong> the current game mechanics.</div><div>     Please join me in saving our rangers. I know you all have a ranger friend that you turn too when the mob is beating on you and say...help please kill this. The ranger does even though we are probally dying as our last arrow is flying. We want class balence not widespread nerfing. We pay for our extra dps every hit we proc a poision.</div><div> </div><div>Thank you if you took the time to read this.</div><hr></blockquote><p> </p><p>No offense but if you needed help to farm on your ranger, you don't know your class.</p><p> </p><p>For those who consider this nerf a huge one, you also need to learn your class. Whoever though our Proc rates weren't broken are obviously idiots, or ignorant. Usually ignorance implies some essence of the first.</p><p>So, to whine about them FINALLY fixing the poison proc rate. =.. Just give it up. Get used to having a 15% proc rate, instead of an 80%.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Or delete your ranger and make a Wizard. Hi ho Tier One DPS.</p><hr></blockquote>Rangers DPS was BUILT on proc rate. Without that Proc rate we drop DPS to PRE LU13 levels. If Proc rates are droping, they need to increase CA damage.