Got LU19 quickly before work - why is my taskbar mostly grey?!

[Mentla]

In Europe we get LU's later than the US on out US based server.  Racism aside, I only had time to just grab the update before I left for work and I noticed that half my taskbar seems to be grey.  What the hell else have the done to us?!?<div></div>

[Abronz]

When they removed the sub professions, they revamped the spell lines level 1-20.  When you logon for the first time after the patch the game updates your knowledge to reflect the new revamped spells.  Just go through your hotbars and remove them since they are level 1-20 spells.  After that you will be good to go.<div></div>

[Mentla]

But I quickly sorted my knowledge book by level and some of the CAs on page 6 (newest ones) were also grey?!<div></div>

[Spectralmist]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Mentla wrote:But I quickly sorted my knowledge book by level and some of the CAs on page 6 (newest ones) were also grey?!<div></div><hr></blockquote>And that's because, as I soon figured out, that you have to be in stealth to use them - they light up when you stealth.  Sort of like that red shadow that indicates you can't use a skill because you're too far away.  Stealth, and poof, they light up.

[Mentla]

<span><blockquote><hr>Spectralmist wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Mentla wrote:But I quickly sorted my knowledge book by level and some of the CAs on page 6 (newest ones) were also grey?!<div></div><hr></blockquote>And that's because, as I soon figured out, that you have to be in stealth to use them - they light up when you stealth.  Sort of like that red shadow that indicates you can't use a skill because you're too far away.  Stealth, and poof, they light up.<hr></blockquote>Ah, yet more dumbing down....</span><div></div>

[Sokolov]

They should just make one GIANT hotkey.  It becomes whatever skill you should be using at the same.  Just press it and it changes to the next skill.The hotkey also increases in size every second that you do not press it.  The screen starts flashing red after 5 seconds to alert you that you are not doing anything. You would also not need to autoattack.  Mobs just start being damaged whenever engaged to simulate being damaged by autoattacks.<div></div>

[Bayler_x]

<span><blockquote><hr>Mentla wrote:<span>Ah, yet more dumbing down....</span><div></div><hr></blockquote>You consider UI widgets indicating whether their action is available as "dumbing down"?  Come on.  That's just good interface.  If you want to complain about the *game* (you know, mechanics, content) becoming too simple, fine.  But don't complain that they made the UI better.</span><div></div>

[Sokolov]

Personally I think you should be able to use EVERY skill EVERY time.  But if you are too far, not in stealth or whatever... cast time goes and the skill/spell fizzles.  THAT would actually reward a player for being knowledgable about the class and its abilities, instead of having a UI crutch.<div></div>

[Mentla]

<span><blockquote><hr>Bayler_xev wrote:<span><blockquote><hr>Mentla wrote:<span>Ah, yet more dumbing down....</span><div></div><hr></blockquote><font color="#ff0000"><b>You consider UI widgets indicating whether their action is available as "dumbing down"?</b></font>  Come on.  That's just good interface.  If you want to complain about the *game* (you know, mechanics, content) becoming too simple, fine.  But don't complain that they made the UI better.</span><div></div><hr></blockquote>Dumbing down = made easier.  So yes, they made it easier.  Now people too stupid to know when they are flanking or in stealth just hit the lit keys.</span><div></div>

[Fennir]

what are your guys mains?just asking cuz i know real rangers aren't this [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]y<div></div>

[Mentla]

<span><blockquote><hr>Fennir wrote:what are your guys mains?just asking cuz i know real rangers aren't this [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]y<div></div><hr></blockquote>Are you posting that on every forum?And no, my main is no longer a Ranger.  My main is slowly becoming a shadow of a Ranger.</span><div></div>

[Fennir]

no im only posting it where i see [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]y [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]es<div></div>

[Cron]

Keep up the good fight Fennir. You are and have always been a Brother-In-Arms. Don't let them get you down.I actually kinda welcome the across-the-board nerfs. It will let us get back to being the Rangers we are known for instead of having the fair-weather rangers take over.

[Jay]

<div></div><p><passes out Kleenex></p><p>Maybe the UI options are configurable - it may be that you can disable those features that make it 'too easy.'</p><p>But if you're thinking the UI is making your game too easy, you obviously assume you don't "need" those features to play your toon. Right? So really, what difference does it make to you if the buttons are purple or pink or blue or whatever? You know when you're stealthed, flanking, too far / too close, etc - so you don't NEED those features, and I'm not sure why you'd mind that they're there. If it's concern that they're helping someone else understand the mechanics better... that's kinda silly. Why care about someone else's ease of play, WRT the UI at least? I can understand the GAME itself, like Shader said - death is kinda trivial right now and I wish it was more of a challenge, for example - but complaining b/c the UI options might help someone else understand the game? How odd. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Bhobski]

<div></div> Although  I agree that there are many thing in the game that have been made a bit too easy, greyed out spells that can't be used because you aren't stealthed or in range isn't  one of them...IMO.What cheeses me off is there were a couple of spells that I still use from time to time that were revamped/removed that were still on my hotbar.   So I'm right in the middle of a fight pressing them wondering why they didn't work..   They should have removed them entirely<div></div><p>Message Edited by Bhobski on <span class="date_text">02-04-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:48 AM</span></p>

[MoonglumHMV]

<div>If you want a real challenge disable the UI all together and just bind your abilities to hotkeys.  Then you won't see anything that will aid you in the game...like target health, your health, whether a CA can be used, etc...</div><div> </div><div>/sarcasm off</div>

[TaleraRis]

We're complaining about things that will make new players better rangers from the ground up by helping them understand positioning and things like stealth?Why are we doing this again?<div></div>

[Sokolov]

There is nothing wrong with UI changes that assist players as a general rule, but I just think it's a better game when players have to actively seek out information about the current combat situation rather than have it handed to them on a platter.  If you try to use an AE when a mob is mezzed, you get burned for it.  But if you try and use a backstab skill when not behind the mob you don't really get punished, just an error mesage.  I think you should be accountable for both kinds of mistakes.<div></div>

[Mentla]

<span><blockquote><hr>Cronon wrote:Keep up the good fight Fennir. You are and have always been a Brother-In-Arms. Don't let them get you down.I actually kinda welcome the across-the-board nerfs. It will let us get back to being the Rangers we are known for instead of having the fair-weather rangers take over.<hr></blockquote>This 'fair-weather' Ranger has been a Ranger for as long as I've know about EQII.  Had combat xp off for sizable portions of that time, hence not 60 yet (have made refernce to people who have a mental block unless they see a '60' in the signature in the past - very weak minded).I am not in a large guild.  My guild cannot raid at high levels and does not yet have a high level alchemist.  Without these, as good as I am at the class, these nerfs are hitting hard.  Facts are I am slowly enjoying playing my bruiser more than my Ranger.  And I am DEFFINATELY enjoying the people on the bruiser forum more.  Used to be fun on here, now it seem that no more than 4-5 posts can go by before someone like you (in fact OFTEN you) flames them.</span><div></div>

[Cron]

<blockquote><hr>Mentla wrote:<span><blockquote><hr>Cronon wrote:Keep up the good fight Fennir. You are and have always been a Brother-In-Arms. Don't let them get you down.I actually kinda welcome the across-the-board nerfs. It will let us get back to being the Rangers we are known for instead of having the fair-weather rangers take over.<hr></blockquote>This 'fair-weather' Ranger has been a Ranger for as long as I've know about EQII.  Had combat xp off for sizable portions of that time, hence not 60 yet (have made refernce to people who have a mental block unless they see a '60' in the signature in the past - very weak minded).I am not in a large guild.  My guild cannot raid at high levels and does not yet have a high level alchemist.  Without these, as good as I am at the class, these nerfs are hitting hard.  Facts are I am slowly enjoying playing my bruiser more than my Ranger.  And I am DEFFINATELY enjoying the people on the bruiser forum more.  Used to be fun on here, now it seem that no more than 4-5 posts can go by before someone like you (in fact OFTEN you) flames them.</span><div></div><hr></blockquote>That's funny. I have posted maybe 5 posts here in 2 months? It is the whiners and the flamers is why I haven't participated more. You need an alchemist? Alfreya and Clarah have been friends of mine almost since I started a Ranger. I'm sure they would be willing to help you with poisons at a pretty fair cost. Tell them Narsan sent you.

[Spectralmist]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Bhobski wrote:<div></div> Although  I agree that there are many thing in the game that have been made a bit too easy, greyed out spells that can't be used because you aren't stealthed or in range isn't  one of them...IMO.What cheeses me off is there were a couple of spells that I still use from time to time that were revamped/removed that were still on my hotbar.   So I'm right in the middle of a fight pressing them wondering why they didn't work..   They should have removed them entirely<div></div><p>Message Edited by Bhobski on <span class="date_text">02-04-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:48 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote><p>Exactly.  First time I logged in after the update - like everyone else over 20 - it was Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!</p><p>as the new CA's were added.  my hotbars filled up.  Best I could do was wipe them all clean and redo them.  It was the only way I could be sure I was getting all of them.</p><p>I'm still miffed that Cheap Shot became scalable.  Bye bye adept 3...  (truthfully though - it needed to be scalable).</p><p> </p>

[Impetus]

<blockquote><hr>MoonglumHMV wrote:<div>If you want a real challenge disable the UI all together and just bind your abilities to hotkeys. Then you won't see anything that will aid you in the game...like target health, your health, whether a CA can be used, etc...</div><div></div><div>/sarcasm off</div><hr></blockquote>I don't use hotkeys. Strictly command-line /useability XOh, and no shortcuts like /usea X -- please, if you want that kind of easy gameplay go back to WoW!!!!

[roblinb]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Mentla wrote:In Europe we get LU's later than the US on out US based server.  Racism aside, I only had time to just grab the update before I left for work and I noticed that half my taskbar seems to be grey.  What the hell else have the done to us?!?<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>:smileyvery-happy:</p><p>Racism?  I was certainly offended :smileytongue:</p>