When to stop using the PGT?

[sjaste]

<DIV>OK your all going think I am absolutly 100% mad; well I'm not, maybe lets say 70% <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyhow the question I am asking is when should we stop using the PGT currently level 55 myself and I can't go for more than 5 fights without wanting it back in my hand. The reason being as we all should know is on weaponry the slower the delay the more often the weapon procs yes? and we all should know that the PGT procs when using your bow, as I can go the whole fight every fight using only bows I have no need for a cobalt weapon and my secondary slot has the prismatic in it. So every fight I have a continuos amout of PGT (power regen 200ish) and lots of damage from poisons, Pristine imbued iron wood long bow, and the prismatics proc. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The point is my power almost never drains, exspecially since I got Stream of Arrows. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So back to the question at hand, when to stop using the PGT. My personal answer is when they nerf it after reading this post. Find your own answer.</DIV>

[Fennir]

I'm using it with my prismatic at 60. I have a couple cobalt weapons, but gleaming strike doesn't compare to might of the land + prismatic proc, at all the other night I got made fun of for bringing it on a raid... and at the end everyone was OOP except me =) <div></div>

[Enoch100]

<P>Just hit 50 and it grayed on me. Was pretty sad about it but decided to pick up my SBD and bought some other weapon on the market with the same delay. I like to match my delays when DW to ensure that I am getting maximum DPS.</P> <P>I like the damage I am hitting for, but I too have noticed that my power bar gets lower than before. I was thinking of going back to my room and picking up the manastone that I had placed in there...</P> <P>In the end I have to admit that I rarely use my melee weapons... I keep my PGT on me at all times... so, when is it time to drop the PGT? I say never. Keep it in your inventory next to your poisons as a Just In Case kind of thing... that way, if I am ever on a long hunt with a good group and I keep running out of power even with good drink, then I'll just swap out to my PGT.</P> <P> </P> <P>-Naissur, Neriak</P>

[Quillian Feetfa]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> sjastein wrote:<BR> <DIV>OK your all going think I am absolutly 100% mad; well I'm not, maybe lets say 70% <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyhow the question I am asking is when should we stop using the PGT currently level 55 myself and I can't go for more than 5 fights without wanting it back in my hand. The reason being as we all should know is on weaponry the slower the delay the more often the weapon procs yes? and we all should know that the PGT procs when using your bow, as I can go the whole fight every fight using only bows I have no need for a cobalt weapon and my secondary slot has the prismatic in it. So every fight I have a continuos amout of PGT (power regen 200ish) and lots of damage from poisons, Pristine imbued iron wood long bow, and the prismatics proc. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The point is my power almost never drains, exspecially since I got Stream of Arrows. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So back to the question at hand, when to stop using the PGT. My personal answer is when they nerf it after reading this post. Find your own answer.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Never!  They can have my PGT when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!  I won't be without it. 

[sjaste]

<P></P> <HR> Enoch100 Wrote: <P>            that way, if I am ever on a long hunt with a good group and I keep running out of power even with good drink, then I'll just swap out to my PGT.</P> <P></P> <HR> <P>BTW I almost never ever drink and power is almost always full =)</P>

[AdiX__Styxx__]

<DIV>I am 60 aswell adn i use the PGT ! I will never sell it to a vendor or put it in my room the ward is invaluable for soloing or when grouped and grabbin agroe! Also in Xpgrind groups you never run oop if i were to use my cobalt imbued leafblades (which really looks like crap) i would run oop in no time with the PGT can go on non stop as soon as mob a is dead i have targeted mob b heck sometimes even b4 mob a is dead! </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It might change once i complete prismatic 1 and prismatic 2 tho! Cause then i would only use it for soloing to get the ward if its needed! but in group settings i would use both prissies then both have a damage proc witha  different name so they can both proc of my bow and togheter (since pris 2 has been fixed) have a 12+14= 26 regen per tick effect! So that will be max damage + a whole lotta regen!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It also saves money on food/drinks cause......well ya never run oop! altough food might be something to look into cause sometimes they give + 12 to strenght which is a good thing its more dps!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Finally if a weapon is grey it dont mean ya cant use it! Altough if yer gonna raid T6 and going in for an occasional melee attack ya wont be able to even hit the mob with the pgt! so yer gonna have to swop then! Since we are rangers tho the only time we move into melee is for elude to go off (at least for me) and maybe a fast dire blade while yer there anyways or some dots....heck i am rambling point is the PGT OWNZZZZZ!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Styxxey 60 ranger of splitpaw</DIV>

[xandez]

Well i guess never <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Im 56 and still using, also saw that many lvl 60:s also using it... Its awesome! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />++Xan<div></div>

[HanktheDwarf]

Hrm, guess I'm in the minority.  I got it when my ranger was level 40.  Tried it out for a few fights, said "Meh" and put my imbued ebon back in my hand.<div></div>

[Dasanhgul]

<DIV>Level 55 and I never leave home without my PGT... MINE, MINE !!!!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><U>PS</U>: people that don't know keep asking me how do I keep my power always up during such long fights <EM><grins></EM></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Feaw]

<DIV>I use mine at lvl 43, love the proc.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[brandi7920]

<DIV>I sold mine. I can hear you all gasping in the background. :smileytongue: I just don't need it. I never run out of power, even in raids. I used to use occasionally during raids pre-DoF. But after awhile I realized that it was just taking up space in my inventory - since half of the time I would forget I had it in there.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I know you guys lub the PGT - but I'll stick to my Prismatic and Silverthorn (or one of my back-up Cobalt weaps).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>On the topic of power, I never run out and I'm pretty sure that in my case, it's because I have to hold back. (unless I'm with a Pally) In raids, I especially have to pace my CAs...then of course there is SoA which saves mana also. Oh I also have high AGI..can't remember exact number but it's a tad over my STR (which is what I concentrate on, go figure, LOL)</DIV>

[The_Wind]

Only times i run out of power on raids, is when I go all out and not worry about aggro.  Those times when I'm sure the MT has everything under control and i don't need to worry.  And of course, those times when I try to make the wizards feel bad. =P  (joke, all you trolls)  The PGT just isn't as effective, esp with it bein gray.  If you take focus off of your melee attacks, you'll lose DPS.  So when you're in there trying to land some of those, your auto attack is also working itself some.  PGT being gray, won't hit raid mobs of your level.  They're immune to it, its just not strong enough.  And switching out is too time consuming.  So yah, like the previous poster, I just don't use it anymore.<div></div>

[valer]

<P>Hiya folks,</P> <P> </P> <P>Just dinged 30...curious what lvl can i do quest for PGT?</P> <P> </P> <P>Thanks</P>

[Zephy]

I'm 60 and still carry my PGT with me at all times.  Since I use my bow almost exclusively, I should probably have it equipped more often... maybe I'd use up less of my cat lives that way. <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span>  I'd probably forget to switch it when mobs come up to me and I need to melee them to death. <span>:smileysad:</span><div></div>

[AdiX__Styxx__]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> The_Wind wrote:<BR>Only times i run out of power on raids, is when I go all out and not worry about aggro.  Those times when I'm sure the MT has everything under control and i don't need to worry.  And of course, those times when I try to make the wizards feel bad. =P  (joke, all you trolls)  The PGT just isn't as effective, esp with it bein gray.  If you take focus off of your melee attacks, you'll lose DPS.  So when you're in there trying to land some of those, your auto attack is also working itself some.  PGT being gray, won't hit raid mobs of your level.  They're immune to it, its just not strong enough.  And switching out is too time consuming.  So yah, like the previous poster, I just don't use it anymore.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>this is all true but..... Changing the weapon out is easily done hotkey the PGT in yer bag and it will replace yer first primary weapon slot dual wielder when ya click the hotkey ! then if ya back out of melee to do some ranged just click it for some power procs and end it with soa....then when its almost done shooting arrows change back to whatever item ya wnana equip for goign back into melee! </P> <P>If Soe grants ya options use them i will prolly use PGT till i have Prismatic 1 wiht a damage proc and prismatic 2 then i think its time to say good bye to my pgt! Well no maybe not cause the wards are great too! saved my butt whle soloing more then once!</P> <P>PGT ownzzzz you know it but yer in denial!</P> <P>Styxxey tha cwazy 60 ranger from splitpaw!</P>

[Crychtonn]

I don't use my PGT on T6 raids because of the number of people and how fast mobs go down.  I rarely if ever drop to under 25% power on T6 raids.  Since I'm 60 I don't need to worry about it for XP groups, though it is good for those.  What I really keep it around for is the old T5 stuff.  PGT is envalueable for all the extra power when your bored and go one group or two group some of the old T5 raids.  It takes along time to burn down that big giant Dryak when there are only four people doing it.  Without the PGT endless power supply it would take forever.

[Jay]

Haven't used my PGT since level 41 or 42; I don't really need it. I guess I could carry it with me and switch it into my melee slot when I was doing mostly ranged, just to get that proc off my bow, but the proc isn't THAT great since it was nerfed and I don't generally run out of power anyway, even on raids. But I pace myself, I don't try to max my DPS or outperform other scouts / mages... and I laugh as I watch them pull aggro and die. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Gareorn]

<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#66ffff>"Just dinged 30...curious what lvl can i do quest for PGT?"</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Now is a good time.  You can use it when you hit 32.  I got mine at 25 and had to drool over it in my bank for seven levels.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also, I'm 44 and it still has not yet greyed.  Does anyone remember what level it greys out?  I love mine, but I'm already finding higher damage weapons.  I'm not having any trouble with power (High AGI), so I plan to replace it when it turns grey.</DIV></DIV><p>Message Edited by Gareorn on <span class=date_text>12-16-2005</span> <span class=time_text>02:03 PM</span>

[The_Wind]

It grays out, what, 15-20 levels above its useage.  I think someone said before that it was around level 50 that it grayed out.  not 100% sure, as i was worried about other things around 45, when LU13 came out =P<div></div>

[BlackAdderDr]

I havent used the PGT in ages...  I know its great for the mana replenishment but I that is not what I need.  I gave up dual cobalts for a one hander t5 fabled wep with 12% proc and 150-250 dmg( Defrauders Dirk).  It goes off all the time, its like having another poison on and Ill take the extra DPS over str/mana regen any day.  Had someone make fun of me, fellow ranger for using a shield so we dueled.  I was lucky and got cheap shot off first and one shot'd them with triple arrow... mind you this was a 59 ranger in full legendary kit, jewelry included.  I felt justified and wont give up my dirk as it still procs on 60+ mobs.  When I get alot of resists I simply use a poison debuff and it starts procing again, which is the exception nd not the norm. -Alaulai

[Lexan]

I usually roll with the vicious sai, prismatic, and ironwood i cant run out of power its impossible lol!  I am still [Removed for Content] about the dark fury of anuk(reward for long peacock quest)  not procing from the bow but everyone always tells me quit your cryin melee weapons shouldnt proc from the bow anyway so i dont complain to much <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Guy De Alsace]

Replaced it with the Shortsword of the Ykesha. Now use that and the Serrated Bone Dirk. Looking to replace with cobalt falchions or something soon. I have to admit though I know nothing of all the number crunching stuff you guys are saying. Is the PGT still effective at 50+? Mine is hung on my wall at the moment. I dont or very rarely raid and tend to solo a good 50% of the time which means lots of melee time usually.  Mind you I'm discovering how good Thorny Trap is though. <div></div>

[kopingOwen]

Well i gave up  PGT  before LU13.... becouse back then it grayed out and the proc would get resisted by anything over lv 42ish.. now it seems with the new system that SOE screwed up and the wepons procs don´t get resisted... they should fix that soon i think sad but true a lv what is it... 30ish weapon proc should get resisted by a mob 2x the lv of the weapon... my 2 cents worth too me its just another exploit

[Kaelos_]

Yes.  I admit it.  I still use pgt when my power gets low.  I also still use Zig's Bloodletter and Gem Chopper Short Sword with imbued ironwood longbow. Exploit or not, will be or not be nerfed; whatever happens, adjustments will be made and I will adapt to it. Ranon 60 Rng. Najena<div></div>

[Fennir]

<span><blockquote><hr>kopingOwen wrote: Well i gave up  PGT  before LU13.... becouse back then it grayed out and the proc would get resisted by anything over lv 42ish <hr></blockquote> My proc was never resisted pre-LU13/expansion, on any mob all the way up to 52 or so, so I'm not sure where you're getting this. Anyways, on raids I like to stay away from AOEs, so like others I only move into close quarters for a quick Elude and maybe a backstab, which is never enough to let my PGT have more than a couple swings anyways. And of course if they change the way the mechanics work, I will adapt and overcome like we've been doing for a year now.</span><div></div>

[Crychtonn]

PGT proc's off your bow.  At level 60 you will never actually hit a mob using it for melee.

[Tov]

<P>Since the moment I achieved the lvl needed to equip my PGT, I have never unequipped it.</P> <P>I recall on one of my first raids, well before DOF was released, While we were setting up the groups, I was ridiculed for using it by a prismatic equipped SK. Once the fight actually began I started to fire arrows and the SK yelled at me for it, as he thought I should be 100% in melee. When the dust settled I was the only person with a ton of power left, which got me another scolding from the SK. Then the parses were reported (several people at the raid were running them) and I was ontop. In a pre-DoF raid containing wizards and warlocks I had done the most total dmg and the most DPS, and I had done it without pulling aggro and without denting my power. The SK never again bothered me about my PGT or the way I play my Ranger.</P> <P>In the end, there is nothing wrong with a high lvl Ranger using a PGT even though it is grey. It is one of those weapons that simply makes us better with the bow, and it is pretty easy to get. If one day SOE adds heritage quests to get Swiftwind and Earthcaller I might replace the thing, but for now the PGT is my lil friend.</P>

[Marcuzs]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lexani- wrote:<BR> I usually roll with the vicious sai, prismatic, and ironwood i cant run out of power its impossible lol!  I am still [Removed for Content] about the dark fury of anuk(reward for long peacock quest)  not procing from the bow but everyone always tells me quit your cryin melee weapons shouldnt proc from the bow anyway so i dont complain to much <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>My Dark Fury procs off my bow. Not sure if it was changed or not but it currently is procing. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I personally never really used the PGT. I sold it long before LU 13. I considered trying it for the ward but found they had nerfed it so didn't bother. I rarely ever go out of power so thats not even an issue for me, even before I got epic 2.0.</DIV>

[Dasanhgul]

<P>Guild group last nite killing cyclops in PoF for 5 hours straight, non-stop pulling... we'd stay in the middle, Fury would go out and pull them towards us and all hell would break loose, and before the 1st wave of mobs was dead, the Fury had more coming our way (amazing Bruiser tank that held aggro like a true champ). This is constant combat mode, rarelly we had a break...</P> <P>Wizards had to often stop for power regen, but my power would NEVER go bellow 70% <EM><hugs his PGT></EM></P> <DIV>If I melee about 1% of the time (even if that), why would I need anything else in my melee slot ? :smileyhappy:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Khevy]

<DIV>I NEVER used it when I got it.  I was like oh ok, its not better than my Ebon Cresant Axe, so I tossed it up on the wall of the crib. While browsing the forum here last week, I saw this thread.  Went home that evening from work, pulled it off the wall and went to go try it out.  Let me say it will never leave my side.  I used to run out of power at raids.  Now I never get below 70%  I still have my Axe, but I will keep it on me in case I have to go strait melee, but I dont' see that happening unless I solo.</DIV>

[jarlaxle8]

<P>on topic: had PGT with SBD till a week ago, then switched my PGT for SSoY (greenhood finished at last). but i am carrying the PGT in my inventory, just in case i need the power regen.</P> <P>a bit off topic: i see prismatic 1.0 and 2.0 mentioned. i know of 'Prismatic Swiftblade of the Scale', and i know the Quest. but now i am confused. what version is that? and what's the name of the other version and the quest?</P> <P>--------------------------<BR><A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=383113204" target=_self>Ryilan Nightbreeze </A><BR>--------------------------</P>

[Kaelos_]

<div></div>Labeled as Prismatic 2.0 http://eq2.ogaming.com/db/items/DarkFurySabreofAnuk.php <img src="http://dbms.ogamingmedia.com/eq2items/15774/image/DarkFurySabreofAnuk.jpg"> It's a long series of quests starting with "A Damsel in Distress" http://eq2.ogaming.com/db/quests/ADamselinDistress.php and ends with "Wrapping it All Up" http://eq2.ogaming.com/db/quests/WrappingitAllUp.php <div></div><p>Message Edited by Kaelos_CZ on <span class=date_text>12-21-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:42 AM</span>

[jarlaxle8]

thx for the info Kaelos. so there came a new 'epic' quest with DoF then <SPAN>:smileyhappy:</SPAN><BR><BR><SPAN>--------------------------<BR><A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=383113204" target=_blank>Ryilan Nightbreeze</A><BR>--------------------------</SPAN><BR> <p>Message Edited by jarlaxle888 on <span class=date_text>12-22-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:06 PM</span>

[Mentla]

I've not had a chance to read the latest LU update notes and the only time I've had a chance to log in I was playing my baby brawler.  Have they done something to do with off-hand proccing?  If I want my PGT to proc off my bow do I need to move it to the primary hand, ot is that just for melee? <div></div>

[Fennir]

My prismatic and PGT still proc off my bow post LU18. Quite often I may add. <div></div>

[jarlaxle8]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Mentla wrote:<BR>I've not had a chance to read the latest LU update notes and the only time I've had a chance to log in I was playing my baby brawler.  Have they done something to do with off-hand proccing?  If I want my PGT to proc off my bow do I need to move it to the primary hand, ot is that just for melee?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>from update notes:</P> <P>- Poisons (as well as other applied effects that have a chance to proc on a successful attack) now only trigger upon successful attacks made with the weapon in the primary hand. Note: <STRONG>Weapons with an inherent damage proc (like all crafted imbued weapons) are unaffected and will continue to proc regardless of which hand they are equipped in.<BR></STRONG><BR>that counts for PGT as well. so it will still go off on bow AND mellee. the 'main hand only' is only for poison and proc buffs, not procs on the weapon.</P> <P>--------------------------<BR><A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=383113204" target=_self>Ryilan Nightbreeze </A><BR>--------------------------</P>

[Mentla]

Didn't we group the other day?..... <div></div>

[Turtle]

<P>Ok so I guess I should know what a PGT is...but I dont.  I have caught on that its a weapon but, not sure of the actual name so I can look up the quest and considering my level I am guessing I have been missing out on something good for a very long time :smileysad:</P> <P>Can someone please post the actual name of this weapon, stats, who gives the quest...anything, PLEASE :smileyhappy:</P> <p>Message Edited by Turtle on <span class=date_text>12-22-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:34 PM</span>

[Crychtonn]

<P>Polished Granite Tomahawk</P> <P>It's a heritage quest given by Osbid Boulderboom (sp ?) in the giant area of Thundering Steppes.  Don't recall the stats but they are not that important.  The thing that makes it usefull all the way up to 60 is the 5% proc that gives you around 200 mana plus a small ward and Str increase.</P> <P>It's basically a mana feed item.</P> <P> </P>

[Turtle]

<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3><EM>Just thought I would post it incase others were curious…these stats are supposed to reflect the latest stats (after revamp)</EM></FONT></P> <P><EM><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Thanks for the info Crychtonn :smileyhappy:</FONT></EM></P> <P><FONT color=#ffffff><IMG src="http://dbms.ogamingmedia.com/eq2items/3425/image/polishedgranitetomahawk05nov11.jpg"></FONT></P> <p>Message Edited by Turtle on <span class=date_text>12-22-2005</span> <span class=time_text>05:59 PM</span>

[Siphar]

<DIV>actuallty very interesting idea.. with stream + pgt with proc its very nice.. but i usually use shield and stream for named.. but this could work better..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[jarlaxle8]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Mentla wrote:<BR>Didn't we group the other day?.....<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>hehe. yes we did. :smileyhappy:</P> <P>sorry about the 'mobs-turning-agro' thing that happened by me leaving the group. was first time i greyed out mobs for others and didn't think about that. :smileyindifferent:</P> <P>--------------------------<BR><A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=383113204" target=_self>Ryilan Nightbreeze </A><BR>--------------------------</P>

[Siphar]

<DIV>sounds rather sad but im using my PGT again at Lvl 60. I've decided that i rarely use my swords- Blade of centre and 2x Cobalt T6 wep (1 slash 1 pierce), and only really equip them- especially on raids- for stats and when im out of power- which is rare anyway.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think ill only put my PGT back in my bag when i finish Prismatic 2- </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I see the PGT like a shield with power, str and ward proc. Ofcourse you cant dps very well with it- very similar to a shield and sword combo and this adds more benefit imho compared to a few hundred shield factor.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Happy Days for streaming against named, on raids and general farming <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>True - Kithikor.</DIV>

[Marcuzs]

<div></div>I don't know if they changed it or it broke, but Dark Fury hasnt proced for me in over 2 weeks. Prismatic is still procing at least.

[masterche]

47 defencive ranger, kite master.I use my PGT still. Its my baby.The power regen with proc, the ward, the str boost.and the fact it procs with the bow.I dont think i'll ever stop using it as long as it procs with the bow.I heard that once an item is greyed out, the stats are less useful. but i doubt it was true as the theory behind it is just [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn].So PGT forever!.. PFF when im cold and dead. im still gonna have it. and its still gonna proc. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> (what, why cant i be undead, theres skeletons, theres zombies.. theres ghost!)<div></div>

[Taubin]

I get asked almost everyday why I am using a grey weapon at 60, and the best way I've found to respond is simply by saying "It's a Ranger thing, you wouldn't understand".    /hug_PGT<div></div>

[Mentla]

I hate to be the one to say this, I really do, but it has gone on long enough - GTaubin, in your sig the arrow is the wrong side of your hand.  It should be above it, not below.  If you tried to fire an arrow like that it would travel about 10 yards if you were lucky or more likely hit you in the foot!<div></div>

[Jay]

<div>LOL, talk to the EQ2 designers at SOE, he didn't do it that way himself. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

[Taubin]

<span>:smileyvery-happy:</span>lol I know, the person that made the sig tried to fix it, but, she said it looked worse the correct way...   I"m have a new sig made pretty soon, so, hopefully it will turn out better <span>:smileywink:</span><div></div>

[Mentla]

It's not like that in game is it?!  <span>:smileysurprised:</span>  That's unbelievable!  That means someone somewhere in SOE thinks you can fire a bow like that!And we wonder why there are so many bugs....<div></div>

[Taubin]

Unfortuanately, yes, that is a screen cap directly from the game.  It doesnt' always look like that, and that is a really old screenie, but, sometimes it still does that. But, it could be worse...<img src="http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/8514/rangerforumscreenie6ic.jpg"><div></div>

[Mentla]

Well, at least they are putting time and resources into the important things, like Christmas hats......."Cannot see target"Ah, my fave....<div></div>