Anyone tested the LU18 poison change yet?

[Tarryn]

<DIV> <HR> </DIV> <DIV>- Poisons (as well as other applied effects that have a chance to proc on a successful attack) now only trigger upon successful attacks made with the weapon in the primary hand. Note: Weapons with an inherent damage proc (like all crafted imbued weapons) are unaffected and will continue to proc regardless of which hand they are equipped in.<BR> <HR> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyone had a chance to check this out on Test Center yet?  Does this mean our ranged attacks are no longer proc'ing our poison?  If that's the case, this is one heckuva nerf...I'm just hoping it ain't so.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Does anyone have some solid feedback on this?  Ranged still proc'ing poison, or ...(gulp)... not?</DIV>

[AfflictedOne]

Not tested it but doesn't look good at all. If it works like it reads then they just took one of the predator abilities away from rangers pure and simple. <div></div>

[Talz]

It would be really cool if this game was out of beta before EQ4 comes out.

[Ecnomorc]

Well I think we all knew that we were going to be nerfed sooner or later... I totally disagree with what they are doing. But as always we are rangers.. we take the good with the bad and the good never lasts as long as the bad. So we will wait it out again til they change it for the better. In other words THIS SUCKS! <div></div>

[Bor]

What a completely stupid change. They've effectively removed any reason for rangers to use poisons. If they think it procs too much then they should just bloody make it ignore weapon speed. Moronic is the only word to describe this if it works as in the patch notes. <div></div>

[Ecnomorc]

This really ticks me off.. I dont even have the words to describe how angry I am that they couldnt come up with a better way to even it out... this was the worst choice. <div></div>

[TaleraRis]

<div></div>I just read a post on the Test Feedback forums that poisons are still proccing from ranged weapons <div></div><p>Message Edited by TaleraRis on <span class=date_text>12-10-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:20 AM</span>

[Fennir]

They better. <div></div>

[Zholain]

<font size="2">I'm speechless......... </font><div></div>

[nimbus2kgold]

<P>You have got to be kidding me... this is insane.</P> <P>We are a bow class.  We use the bow 95% of the time.  This is like saying it wont proc for Assassins when they melee.  I cant beleive this.  I was expecting a nerf because of all the whining from other classess, but this is above and beyond.</P> <P>I really hope we are reading this wrong.</P> <P>edit: found this on the test feedback forum... might not be quite so hopeless.. well see</P> <P><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=testfeed&message.id=37174" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=testfeed&message.id=37174</A></P><p>Message Edited by nimbus2kgold on <span class=date_text>12-10-2005</span> <span class=time_text>02:00 AM</span>

[Stormykat]

I'm really hoping they worded things wrong and seeing as how poison still is procing from the bow on test server we will have to wait and see, but it doesn't sound good. I always wait to see how changes play out cause sometimes it's not as bad as it seems, but this one really scares me - are we going to go back to feeling as unnecessary in a group before LU13? I really hope not <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

[TwistedFaith]

I think we all expected somekind of nerf, the assasins moaning and moaning, followed by wizards meant only one thing sadly.Shame really, but i'll still play my Range.

[King Leor]

<P>Poisons will still proc on ranged attacks post LU18. SO no need to worry. and as long as my procs from my weps will proc on my bow still than I am happy. But didn't they say they would make them not disappear after death and that they would look into it? Or did they say that at the time just to appease us???? </P> <P>Leoric<BR>Level 60 ranger</P>

[gossi]

Life goes on. Linyen Ranger Fires of Heaven <div></div>

[dubbs]

If our bows still proc poison, this is going to be a significant nerf to assassins.  Their poisons will proc even less than they do now, and as it is now, ours proc about twice as often.  They will be losing a fair bit of dps, and I have a hard time believing they will sit back and take this without crying foul in our direction.

[KnightOfTheWo]

Have to admit...speechless also. We'll see... <div></div>

[Skratttt]

<DIV>Sigh i dont like this change as much as you guys do..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I certainly hope they dont take away poison procs from bow....that would suck for all predators</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>..BTW where u guys get the idea we want you nerfed??? we want you guys at same level of dps...just that we want to be up there too...not fighting with the Conjurors for dps supremacy in t2 <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Luk]

<P>I know this doesn't effect your procing on bows, but it will off your melee weapons.....</P> <P>I have started a thread on the Scout Forums since this effects all rogues and preds</P> <P> </P> <P><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/post?board.id=31" target=_blank><FONT color=#ffcc33>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/post?board.id=31</FONT></A></P>

[xandez]

<P>Well if that happens im gonan freeze my ranger, because theres no point playing it anymore. 30-50% of our DPS comes from the poison and i like to use my bow as much as possible, if bow attacks dont proc poisons... *adios*</P> <P>But im pretty sure our bow attacks will continue to proc.... <BR>How about assassins then? I always thought they needed an upgrade rather than a MAJOR NERF???</P> <P>Who the H**L is deciding these changes? This doesnt make ANY sense... *bleh*</P> <P><FONT color=#ff9900>*EDIT*<BR>If they would wanna _balance_ scout classes in poison uses, why wouldnt they make it like this for example:</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ff9900>Assassins: poison procs from boths hand weapons, maybe even with an increased chance to proc. <BR>Rangers: poisons will ONLY proc from our bow, not from melee attacks at all (maybe a bit too harsh but would kinda fit in the picture dont ya think?)<BR>Rogues: poisons would proc from both hands (lower % chance compared to assassins)</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ff9900>Summary: </FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ff9900>assassins --> upgrade<BR>rangers --> a slight downgrade (nothing major)<BR>rogues --> the same</FONT></P> <P><BR>++Xan</P><p>Message Edited by xandez on <span class=date_text>12-11-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:48 AM</span>

[Deml]

<P>Been reading the test server posts on it and it looks like it works like this.</P> <P>Bow - Everything procs the same for the bow.  slight change from the melee weapons proccing on bow shots.<BR>Primary weapon - Everything stays the same.<BR>Secondary weapon - No procs on this weapon UNLESS the weapon is imbued or has an inherent proc (ie. prismatic).</P> <P>As for if the secondary weapon will proc on a bow, I think it will IF it is imbued or prismatic.  I don't know if poisons will proc from the secondary weapon though.  This should really be a very small/insignificant change for us the way it is on test now.</P>