is surveil broken?

[Karvar]

<DIV>i do not know if anyone else has seen this but last night when i was pulling to clear LJ ... i was using hunt then surveil to get crocs from his area ... normaly they will target a group member and move along as they should... but last night they b lined it right for me ... the CA is suppost to put me a the bottom of the hate list ie making me neg hate .. and everyone else at zero thus they should be agro before me ... </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>has anyone else seen this ? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>it really did not bother me much but i am thinking in Cazel this will really screw up my pulling and getting the adds from around cazel ... not to mention how i get him to the place were we  fight him with out being squished in about 3 sec...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>karvar</DIV>

[Deml]

<DIV>Surveil doesn't put you at the bottom of the hate list, it just drops your hate by a good amount.  If a tank doesn't hit the mob, or hit a taunt skill though, you'll still have agro.  Pulling with the combo you're using will pretty much guarantee that if anyone else hits the mob it jumps right for them, but the catch is they actually have to HIT, not just swing.  They have to do damage, or taunt, and then it will forget all about you.</DIV>

[Jeff240]

<DIV>Last night my Surveil was darkened out, and I could not cast it at all.  Haven't/Can't check today.  When I clicked it, I'd get the "cued action" for the duration of having it clicked - anyone else getting this?</DIV> <DIV>And.. pulling with anything, even a hate reducer - gives you aggro.  Because even though you "deaggroed" yourself, you were still the only one to touch the mob.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Crychtonn]

<P>Unfortunately Surveil got changed the same as Feign Death.  Before if used on a mob it caused the mob to aggro onto another group member.  Now it will only do that is the other group member has done something to the mob.  This change pretty much destroys Surveil as a good pulling skill.  I'm really disappointed with this change as Surveil used to be a very good tactical skill to pull mobs near or behind other mobs.  As it is now I doubt I will use Surveil for anything other then deaggro during a fight.  The other nice tactics I used to use it for have been nerf'd away <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P> </P>

[Fennir]

Chrychtonn is right, they changed the game mechanics so being at negative hate doesn't necessarily point the mob at another raid/groupmate. BUT, it doesn't destroy the skill AT ALL. 1. Yes, the mob will come to you, but a single taunt or attack from someone else will turn the mob.  Don't use it to pull something that will 1-shot you... UNLESS... 2. GET A PALADIN TO PUT AMENDS ON YOU.  Surveil and the Evade line WORK THE OLD WAY when this buff is on you, because it transfers 41% of your hate to the paladin at Adept III.  Learn it, love it, live it. <div></div>