Advice for a 31 Ranger - need new duals

[Mentla]

Hi guys, Went on a level 39 quest with some decent chaps in Zek last night.  I say decent because I was doing aproximately zero damage to most of the mobs we faced.  The quest reward was a heller nice legendary bow - so I can now do damage to these higher mobs....with my bow.  My duals are still a little crudy.  Are there any similar quest (don't know name, got it from Shadow on Zek docs) for some nice duals? <div></div>

[Dasanhgul]

<DIV>Have ya done the PGT HQ yet ? You can start there, to get a very nice slasher that you will still be using past 50 (I still use it at level 52 for ranged combat for its procs, when in melee I swap it for a crafted legendary).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Mentla]

I've heard of the PGT - where does the quest start please? <div></div>

[Sural_Argonus]

<DIV>Named giant in TS...Can't remember...but the starter for it is "Little Tarby Lost"...It's quite annoying and you WILL need help.  The reward for this is the tommahawk that starts the PGT.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ran across a level 40something Ranger that still needed help.   Just couldn't kill the mobs fast enough.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Mentla]

<span><blockquote><hr>Arg0nus wrote:<div>Named giant in TS...Can't remember...but the starter for it is "Little Tarby Lost"...It's quite annoying and you WILL need help.  The reward for this is the tommahawk that starts the PGT.</div> <div> </div> <div>Ran across a level 40something Ranger that still needed help.   Just couldn't kill the mobs fast enough.</div> <div> </div> <div> </div><hr></blockquote>Aw criminey, not THAT quest!  A friend and I took fricken ages to do that with our mages!!  Had to resort to standing next to the s0dding bear and firing off an earthquake to draw all the agro onto myself and keep bear alive (lets just say that armor needed repairing a few times).  No WAY I can do that with little Bug. Ok, any OTHER quests, maybe something Bug can solo, to get a half decent weapon?  I'm sure my mage will complete the rest of the quest in good time (killing 500 skellys sounds like a fair way to unwind after a hard days work - especially with here Apedt III tank pet  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />) but I need something now-ish.</span><div></div>

[Raahl]

I've found that fighting mobs 5+ levels higher than me is pretty pointless.  I miss them 90% of the time, didn't seem to matter what weapon I was using.

[Sural_Argonus]

<DIV>I use 2 Ornate Feysteel Spears...They do ok for now.</DIV>

[Dasanhgul]

<P>If you think the PGT HQ was hard, then you in for a nice treat ahead with some of the quests you will be able to get :smileyhappy:</P> <P>Probably the best idea is to support your local weaponsmith and purchase some weapons off him/her. Start with "normal" and then move onto legendary ones.</P> <P> </P>

[Sural_Argonus]

<P>I think the Little Tarby Lost is more annoying then hard.  The Hungry Wolves are easy...It's just that it's definatelly not a solo quest.  You will need friends with you.  </P> <P>6 Level 28 Hungry Wolves</P> <P>6 Level 29 Hungry Wolves</P> <P>3 Level 30 hungry Wolves and 1 Dire Wolf</P> <P>If I remember correctly.  It's not that it CAN'T be done...Just more likely that they will eat Tarby before you kill them all.</P>

[Mentla]

<span><blockquote><hr>Raahl wrote:I've found that fighting mobs 5+ levels higher than me is pretty pointless.  I miss them 90% of the time, didn't seem to matter what weapon I was using. <div></div><hr></blockquote>So the queality of the weapons I was wielding was not a factor?  That's good to now - really rather love my imbued spear (with all my speedy attacks it seems to proc at least twice every fight  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />) Re: Tarby, yup, not remotely hard - my tank pet could more than cope and the Illusionist with me could mez them any leftovers.  Problem was getting them all off the bear before he died <u>without </u>me dying by drawing loads of agro.  In the end we waited until he was 35 and I 31 and spazzed them a treat  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span><div></div>

[Quillian Feetfa]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Mentla wrote:<BR><SPAN><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Raahl wrote:<BR>I've found that fighting mobs 5+ levels higher than me is pretty pointless.  I miss them 90% of the time, didn't seem to matter what weapon I was using. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>So the queality of the weapons I was wielding was not a factor?  That's good to now - really rather love my imbued spear (with all my speedy attacks it seems to proc at least twice every fight  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />)<BR><BR>Re: Tarby, yup, not remotely hard - my tank pet could more than cope and the Illusionist with me could mez them any leftovers.  Problem was getting them all off the bear before he died <U>without </U>me dying by drawing loads of agro.  In the end we waited until he was 35 and I 31 and spazzed them a treat  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR></SPAN> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Maybe you need to look for a nice Tank to take with you.  Or at least a healer.  You'll want to get aggro away from Tarby ASAP.  Throw up your defensive stance and have the healer keep healing away.  Also you may want to look at using better/more DD poisons.  You can stack three poisons now, but they all have to be different types ( Damage, debuff, and other type.)  There are other threads that talk about the poisons stacking.</P> <P>As for getting the PGT, it is well worth getting it!  I'm on the verge of 45 now and I still use my PGT.  It took a while to get it, but it's got a great proc and it procs all the time.  You'll need to get Cove of Decay access or have someone with access get you in for the final battle, but it's well worth the reward.</P>

[Jay]

<P>Hehe, yeah, the PGT is <STRONG>not </STRONG>optional gear - you want that baby as soon as possible, trust me. You mentioned at least one imbued DW weapon - what is it that you're using currently?</P> <P>PGT will take some time but it's essential. If you're still looking to upgrade your weapons in the meantime, I remember that some good dropped feysteel weapons were selling on the market for cheap back when I was in my early 30s. Otherwise, harvest for your own feysteel and have something crafted if you haven't already. If you go that route, just make sure you get a piercer, as PGT is slashing and you'll likely use that into your early 40s.</P>

[Sural_Argonus]

<DIV>As soon as I find a good Group.....the PGT will be mine.  lol</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Interesting combo tho...A PGT in one hand...and an Ornate Feysteel Spear in the other....lol</DIV>

[Prandtl]

The PGT doesnt come quickly...  First step is an agonizing mining expedition, digging in wind swept stones for peices of granite.  Took me about 4 hours of continuous mining.  Also, you'll need you tradskilling level up to at least 9; for you have to combine granite with other peices to make an interim tomahawk. <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ogames spoiler:</DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eq2.ogaming.com/db/quests/AnAxefromThePast.php" target=_blank>http://eq2.ogaming.com/db/quests/AnAxefromThePast.php</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Untruth]

<P>Providing your playing at an hour where there are very little people on, it actually is possible to solo "Little Tarby Lost" - just get some high level food and drinks to speed up regeneration and beat the despawn time. Just talk to Tarby, aggro the wolves, then yell and run away, and the wolves will go right back to Tarby, circle him, and just sit there idly. Unload all your spike DPS abilities on one of the wolves, yell, and run away again until the third wave, where you just have to kill Dire wolf - then just pick up Tarby and run away. I reckon its not the way its supposed to be done, but i didn't have any guild backing to help. That, and if the wolves despawn, the quest gets bugged and Tarby has to die in order for it to work again.</P> <P>The harvesting is probably the most irritating part - Not only do people tend to snipe windswept stones, but they are also rare. This means that it'll probably take long periods of time inbetween to find clusters of the stones, and theres only about a fifty percent chance that you'll actually even get one granite from exhausting a node. The sparkling flower and ash stave needed for making the tomahawk can be either an easy step, or hard - on Mistmoore, they seem to go for about 11g combined, but thats using the blackmarket.</P> <P>Even the Skindancer gnoll step can be soloed. If the named isn't up in the middle of the shrine, then a group of 5 mobs will spawn there instead, that shouldn't have any arrows. Between their respawn time if possible, you can also kill the groups of two ^^ level 25 roamers, which have a faster respawn. Probably considerably slower than getting a group, but if your determined to get the PGT, well.</P> <P>As for Octagorgon, the hardest part is probably getting access into Cove of Decay in the first place. The access quest does require a group to do, and honestly, you probably won't find a pickup group thats doing the access quest for Cove of Decay. The funny part i find here is that all the raid zones for quick loot, that have epicx4 mobs in them are all auto-access, but the lower level versions require access quest that involve killing grouped ^^s or ^^^s?</P> <P>The main perk with the PGT tends to be how the speed vs. proc rate formula works. Providing you are using a longbow (7.0) speed, it should trigger off the PGT proc quite frequently, and the proc is the main power-point for the weapon to begin with.</P>

[Mentla]

crud, I've ditched loads of ash staves  <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Looks like I have to get my head down and do this quest.  Have to level up as a tailor first, as I'm only wearing legendary shoulders and gloves at the momet  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Re: Cove of Decay - where do I obtain the access quest for this? <div></div>

[Taubin]

<div></div><span><blockquote><hr>Mentla wrote: Re: Cove of Decay - where do I obtain the access quest for this? <font color="#ff0033">In ROV (ruins of Varsoon).  You have to free two centaurs from jail to begin the access quest.  Info can be found <a href="http://eq2.ogaming.com/db/quests/TheCoveofDecayPrisonBreak.php" target="_blank">Here</a>.  (Spoiler alert). However, you do not NEED to do the quest as long as one of the people you are grouped with when you go to kill Octo has done it.  I do recommend doing it though, as it can be allot of fun.  <a href="http://eq2.ogaming.com/db/quests/TheCoveofDecayPrisonBreak.php" target="_blank"><u></u></a></font> <div></div><hr></blockquote>Just as a side note, I did PGT I believe in my low-mid 30's and am still using it in my off-hand at lvl 48.  The proc on it has saved me a few times.  It's pretty nice. Pic of PGT below <img src="http://dbms.ogamingmedia.com/eq2items/3425/image/polishedgranitetomahawk05nov11.jpg">   Bear in mind, these are just my opinions.  Happy hunting and stay safe = )</span><div></div><p>Message Edited by GTaubin on <span class=date_text>11-25-2005</span> <span class=time_text>02:04 AM</span>

[sAs-Bartleby]

<div></div><span><blockquote><hr>Mentla wrote:<span><blockquote><hr>Arg0nus wrote:<div>Named giant in TS...Can't remember...but the starter for it is "Little Tarby Lost"...It's quite annoying and you WILL need help.  The reward for this is the tommahawk that starts the PGT.</div> <div> </div> <div>Ran across a level 40something Ranger that still needed help.   Just couldn't kill the mobs fast enough.</div> <div> </div> <div> </div><hr></blockquote>Aw criminey, not THAT quest!  A friend and I took fricken ages to do that with our mages!!  Had to resort to standing next to the s0dding bear and firing off an earthquake to draw all the agro onto myself and keep bear alive (lets just say that armor needed repairing a few times).  No WAY I can do that with little Bug. Ok, any OTHER quests, maybe something Bug can solo, to get a half decent weapon?  I'm sure my mage will complete the rest of the quest in good time (killing 500 skellys sounds like a fair way to unwind after a hard days work - especially with here Apedt III tank pet  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />) but I need something now-ish.</span><div></div><hr></blockquote> Why did you ask for real good dual wield stuff and make such answers. The tomahawk is a very good dual wield weapon. This and the ykesha weapon for the rescue of the greenhoods are must haves for lvl 30 and 40 players (my point of view) I still wear the obsid tomahawk (quest giver) For these Quest you get status points. they are heritage quests and you need a group. If you only want common stuff, pick up some feyiron and glimmering and go to a weaponsmith.</span> <p>Message Edited by sAs-Bartleby on <span class=date_text>11-25-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:20 AM</span>

[Mentla]

My mage has started this quest already - if she completes it can she give the PGT to Bug?  Or is it non-trade? <div></div>

[Dasanhgul]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Mentla wrote:<BR>My mage has started this quest already - if she completes it can she give the PGT to Bug?  Or is it non-trade?<BR><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Yer obviously not paying attention to a post you started... check the picture that Taubin just posted.</P> <P> </P>

[Mentla]

<span><blockquote><hr>Dasanhgul wrote: <blockquote> <hr> Mentla wrote:My mage has started this quest already - if she completes it can she give the PGT to Bug?  Or is it non-trade? <div></div> <hr> </blockquote> <p>Yer obviously not paying attention to a post you started... check the picture that Taubin just posted.</p> <hr></blockquote>Got my full attention, but you know what these loverly people at SOE are like for changing things  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span><div></div>

[Dasanhgul]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Mentla wrote:<BR><SPAN><BR>Got my full attention, but you know what these loverly people at SOE are like for changing things  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR></SPAN> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>HQ reward items will never be tradeable.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Mentla]

<span><blockquote><hr>Dasanhgul wrote: <div>HQ reward items will never be tradeable.</div> <div> </div><hr></blockquote>He's not wrong you know, as I found out much to my chagrin Saturday.  My mage now has a perfectly useless PGT hanging on her wall  <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Good thing is I blitzed it Sunday with Buggy.  Got lucky with a low-ish level fury looking for xp Sunday so I just ran around outside Varsoon, drew as much agro as I could and shredded them while the healer worked like a little trooper keeping me in one piece.  Then did ooc for anyone who could help with skindancers and found another fury doing same HQ so we got them in about 10 mins......then came getting access to Cove...about 3 hours later after doing whole prison break etc. Bug stood proud with a brand new PGT  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Also looted a rare pelt which I'm now wearing. Also, while hitting all the nodes to get the right ones to appear for the granite I got a piece of Steel (rare).  Found a weapon smith on LFW who said if I gave him the steel and 30g he's make me an imbued Feysteel.  Long story short, my slightly good Ranger of Friday night is now a fully legendary, crazy imbued proccing shredding machine.  The PGT procs so much it's actually getting annoying! Oh, and doing the HQ twice in one weekend dinged my guild to 15  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span><div></div>

[Beldin_]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Prandtl wrote:<BR>The PGT doesnt come quickly...  First step is an agonizing mining expedition, digging in wind swept stones for peices of granite.  Took me about 4 hours of continuous mining.  Also, you'll need you tradskilling level up to at least 9; for you have to combine granite with other peices to make an interim tomahawk. <DIV> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>Looks as if the harvesting has become easier now .. i did the quest for the fourth time with my conjurer the last days, and got a ding on nearly each stone .. can remember that it used 10 or more stones before .. so i was ready with that step after maybe 30 minutes <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Mentla]

<span><blockquote><hr>Beldin_ wrote: <blockquote> <hr> Prandtl wrote:The PGT doesnt come quickly...  First step is an agonizing mining expedition, digging in wind swept stones for peices of granite.  Took me about 4 hours of continuous mining.  Also, you'll need you tradskilling level up to at least 9; for you have to combine granite with other peices to make an interim tomahawk. <div> <hr> </div></blockquote>Looks as if the harvesting has become easier now .. i did the quest for the fourth time with my conjurer the last days, and got a ding on nearly each stone .. can remember that it used 10 or more stones before .. so i was ready with that step after maybe 30 minutes <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div><hr></blockquote>lol - maybe just conjourors.  Did it very quickly with mine Saturday, but Sunday with my Ranger was a different kettle of fish.  Did it early when there was no competition for nodes.  Could barely get the correct nodes to spawn, and then finding granite was more like 1 in 3. Actualy, Bug is VERY unlucky finding rares for herself.  She found 3 rares for my mage's armor but no pelts for herself.  Are certain classes 'luckier'?</span><div></div>

[Taubin]

<span><blockquote><hr>Mentla wrote:<span><blockquote><hr>Dasanhgul wrote: <div>HQ reward items will never be tradeable.</div> <div> </div><hr></blockquote>He's not wrong you know, as I found out much to my chagrin Saturday.  My mage now has a perfectly useless PGT hanging on her wall  <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span><div></div><hr></blockquote>You could sell it to an npc, I think they go for about 15-20g, that's where my Ranger sold his perfectly useless Stein of Moggok <span>:smileywink:</span></span><div></div>

[Mentla]

<span><blockquote><hr>GTaubin wrote:<span><blockquote><hr>Mentla wrote:<span><blockquote><hr>Dasanhgul wrote: <div>HQ reward items will never be tradeable.</div> <div> </div><hr></blockquote>He's not wrong you know, as I found out much to my chagrin Saturday.  My mage now has a perfectly useless PGT hanging on her wall  <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span><div></div><hr></blockquote>You could sell it to an npc, I think they go for about 15-20g, that's where my Ranger sold his perfectly useless Stein of Moggok <span>:smileywink:</span></span><div></div><hr></blockquote>Any particular npc?  I've heard that there is a shady dealer in Nek forest who buys and sells HQ items.  Is this the chap?</span><div></div>

[Jay]

<DIV>Yeah, his name is Shady Swashbuckler, he's on the Nek docks and will allow you to buy HQ items that you've earned and sold back, for a fee. Any NPC merchant will buy HQ items, but just make sure you sell it to one of the ones that purchase goods for top dollar. </DIV>

[brandi7920]

<P>Grats on your PGT, Buggy! That's an irritating HQ - but well worth the reward!</P> <P>/applaud</P> <p>Message Edited by brandi7920 on <span class=date_text>11-29-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:40 PM</span>

[Mentla]

I case you wondered, these are the amazing stats if you do the qest with a mage.... <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/mentla/Axe.jpg"> <div></div>

[Sural_Argonus]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jay42 wrote:<BR> <DIV>Yeah, his name is Shady Swashbuckler, he's on the Nek docks and will allow you to buy HQ items that you've earned and sold back, for a fee. Any NPC merchant will buy HQ items, but just make sure you sell it to one of the ones that purchase goods for top dollar. </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>That may not be exactly true.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I have the Dwarven Work Boots on my Ranger...Never sold them.  Shady offers to sell me each kind of boot...and something else...I haven't looked lately.</DIV>

[Mentla]

<span><blockquote><hr>Arg0nus wrote: <blockquote> <hr> Jay42 wrote: <div>Yeah, his name is Shady Swashbuckler, he's on the Nek docks and will allow you to buy HQ items that you've earned and sold back, for a fee. Any NPC merchant will buy HQ items, but just make sure you sell it to one of the ones that purchase goods for top dollar. </div> <hr> </blockquote> <div>That may not be exactly true.</div> <div> </div> <div>I have the Dwarven Work Boots on my Ranger...Never sold them.  Shady offers to sell me each kind of boot...and something else...I haven't looked lately.</div><hr></blockquote>Checked with shady fellow last night - any HQ item I'd earned were there including several bootys.</span><div></div>

[Dasanhgul]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Mentla wrote:<BR>I case you wondered, these are the amazing stats if you do the qest with a mage....<BR><BR><IMG src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/mentla/Axe.jpg"><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Stats are exactly the same, no matter what class. Only difference is that some HQ items are usable by some classes and not others... but I've done almost all the HQ's mainly for the GSPs.</P> <P><BR> </P>

[Mentla]

lol, not exactly the same, as the pic below should show if I've got it to work.  Look at the dmg: <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/mentla/Axe.jpg"> <div></div>

[Mentla]

ok, can anyone tell me why my pics are coming out so tiny? <div></div>

[Taubin]

My guess would be that for whatever reason, photobucket is resizing the image for you. I  don't personally use photobucket, so, I'm not sure if it does it on it's own, or if it is a option type thing.  Check the settings when uploading the image and see if there is a resize option.  <span>:smileywink:</span><div></div>

[Ndi]

What quest did you do to get the bow you are referring to?  I'm looking to replace this okie-doke bow that dropped in EL.  I'm a lv 33 Ranger.

[Sural_Argonus]

<DIV>I'm personally using Stormfire, which is a quest reward in Stormhold.  I'm sure there's a better bow out there...since I am coming up to the end of it's usefulness...hehehe</DIV>

[Mentla]

<span><blockquote><hr>Ndigo wrote:<div></div>What quest did you do to get the bow you are referring to?  I'm looking to replace this okie-doke bow that dropped in EL.  I'm a lv 33 Ranger.<hr></blockquote>Me?  Some quest in Zek.  Don't remember the name but we got it from someone on the docks I believe was called Shadow.  May even have been a HQ, took a full group all night to do.  I was by far the lowest in the group, they just let me tag along basically (think I was 30 at the time) and I did about zero damage to most the mobs we had to fight, so you'll need some help.  Bow you get is legendary and very nice indeed.  Will try to remember to post stats tonight.</span><div></div>

[Jay]

Sorry, Sural's right - you just have to have completed the HQ for Shady to offer to sell you the reward for it. But given that HQ rewards are Lore / No-Trade, he will not sell you a duplicate of an item you already have.