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[krlsrr]

<DIV>Hi all</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I dont actually have a character as yet in EQ II (am at work and it's dl'ing now) but I will be creating a ranger as i'm a SWG refugee.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Just thought i'd say hi and look forward to learning a whole new system with multiple characters <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Just a quick question, and apologise if this is answered somewhere else, but the pet system. Are they like the creature handler pets in SWG in that u can have them fight for you, or just ornaments for your room?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Regards</DIV>

[Gailstryd]

They are ornaments that follow you around and get on your nerves because the continuely make the same noise over and over and over......you get the point.  They are kind of neat but when it all is said and done they are fluffier than the Snuggles Bear.  They will attack if they get hit by an AOE but only then and sometimes they don't even do that.  My tiger has never attacked once ever, at least my bird use to save me once in a blue moon.  Overall I only ever have them up if I'm bored as hell or getting ready to take a screenshot, something like that.  Oh and you can't really use them in your house, you can summon them while you are in there but they don't stay in your house they go with you if you zone.

[krlsrr]

<P>Ok thanks, still no replacement for Creature Handler then <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Least u dont have jedi here !!!</P> <P>Well, I look forward to experimenting and learning the system. I'll try and ensure I read up alot before posting obvious q's.</P> <P>Regards</P>

[Gailstryd]

<P>No prob bro and while your original question has been answered before it isn't all that prevelent and is also easy enough to answer.  I hope you have fun in game and I wish you good hunting.  As a parting tip I highly recommend you join the World Ranger channel that Kaeros set up.  There are a few butt holes that won't give a new player the time of day, but for the most part there are a lot of very helpful and experienced people in the channel.  In game type /join WorldRanger and you should be able to join it easily enough you may need something else in the /join command if you aren't on the butcherblock server I'm really sure.  Anyways once you are in the channel, if you ever need help in game or just want to have some good old fashion conversations it is a great place to turn.</P>

[krlsrr]

<P>Thanks for the info and for making me feel welcome from the on-set</P> <P>One thing I did find in my time in SWG is that the community, either guilded or in the forums, is what makes the game so will prob be quite an active poster <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Regards</P>

[Jay]

<P>Heh, Rhanin forgot that he's on the same server I am. For those of you who are more fortunate and don't have to deal with me firsthand, you need to type /join Butcherblock.WorldRanger to subscribe to the channel. </P> <P>Welcome aboard, feel free to ask us any and all questions that occur along your path to Ranger. This is a great group of people and I'm proud to be a part of this community. </P>

[krlsrr]

<P>Well, i've now created a character on Splitjaw now, a cool little halfling scout who has been exceedinly succesful in dieing alot !?!?</P> <P>Taken Artisan too cause i luv crafting although not done anything as i've been having too much fun just jumping form place to place and getting exccedingly lost but then thats freeform roleplay for you <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Will set up the chat channell soon, just wanna get used to game 1st, so will be catching up with people soon i hope !!</P> <P>Regards</P>

[Te]

<DIV>Im on Splitpaw too, feel free to send me a tell and ask me whatever you want and ill try to answer.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Im a AFK freak though and raiding sometimes so might answer directly but will try to as soon as I can<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Gailstryd]

<DIV>Ooh a halfer scout hehe.  It almost suprises me but back in eq1 halfling rangers were almost as popular as wood elf ones and I guess I never really noticed how nice it is to have them around until now cause in EQ2 it seems like I have never seen any halfer rangers on my server.  I've seen an ogre ranger and even a few other wierd class race combo's but I never expected to see halfers and rangers be so seperate hehe.</DIV>

[AdiX__Styxx__]

i never got a spell for a tiger where do i get those?

[Dasanhgul]

<P>I got the 20 (hawk) 40 (bear) and 50 (tiger) from Elddar Grove... 3 little NPC merchants sitting along a corner by a wall.</P> <P> </P>

[krlsrr]

<P>No halfling scouts eh? Makes me more determined to be succesful then as I like doing the obscure <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>As a general question ... is there any issue of mentioning other SoE games in here in trying to relate what I wanna know ? (Does that make sense) What I mean is the only other MMORPG i've played is SWG (now a RTS but thats another issue) so any issues, like pets for example, will automatically be referenced to what I know from my experience there.</P> <P>Oh, I apologise in advance for any anti-SoE rants re SWG's imminent demise (in my opinion), my friends cant believe i've gone for another SoE product but I luv fantasy and EQII was the only real choice as I h8 PvP.</P> <P>Rgds</P>

[coltla]

The pet is not COMPLETELY useless. I use my bear when I'm harvesting in the Ferrott, After I zone on the docks, I cast, and anchor him there. Then when I get an add while harvesting I [evade line], it takes off running for my bear and I can use my ranged attacks.

[Quillian Feetfa]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> coltlane wrote:<BR>The pet is not COMPLETELY useless. I use my bear when I'm harvesting in the Ferrott, After I zone on the docks, I cast, and anchor him there. Then when I get an add while harvesting I [evade line], it takes off running for my bear and I can use my ranged attacks.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>/yoink!  Stealing that idea!  I wouldn't have even thought of using it that way!  How very clever!

[Jay]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Quillian Feetfast wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> coltlane wrote:<BR>The pet is not COMPLETELY useless. I use my bear when I'm harvesting in the Ferrott, After I zone on the docks, I cast, and anchor him there. Then when I get an add while harvesting I [evade line], it takes off running for my bear and I can use my ranged attacks.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>/yoink!  Stealing that idea!  I wouldn't have even thought of using it that way!  How very clever! <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Yeah... that's hawt. <BR> <p>Message Edited by Jay42 on <span class=date_text>11-08-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:42 PM</span>

[coltla]

It's worth noting that when I do this, I don't wear imbued armor as that can either dammage the mob, or heal you generating more hate for you. /shrugIt works for me. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Visionaire]

<P>Just a clarification to your original post.  Although rangers do not have any pets that fight for you, like the old creature handler profession in SWG.  There are conjurors that do have pets that fight for them.  The selection of pets u can control is far less than SWG however conjuror is actually a very useful class in EQ2.  Coercer's can also charm creatures around them and use them to fight as well.  So there are some profession choices in EQ that are similiar to the old creature handler of SWG.</P> <P>Welcome to EQ, I am also a SWG refugee, I left 3 months ago, and cant tell u how much better this game is than SWG.</P> <P>Hope this helps</P> <P> </P> <P>Solarus of Neriak</P>

[Jay]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> coltlane wrote:<BR>It's worth noting that when I do this, I don't wear imbued armor as that can either dammage the mob, or heal you generating more hate for you. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>That's fine, I harvest naked anyway. I really only wear armor when I have to.  <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR></P>

[Star]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> coltlane wrote:<BR>The pet is not COMPLETELY useless. I use my bear when I'm harvesting in the Ferrott, After I zone on the docks, I cast, and anchor him there. Then when I get an add while harvesting I [evade line], it takes off running for my bear and I can use my ranged attacks.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>OMG you are brilliant. :smileyvery-happy: I'm trying that as soon as I get home.<BR>

[Star]

<P></P> <HR> <P>That's fine, I harvest naked anyway. I really only wear armor when I have to.  <IMG height=16 src="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" width=16 border=0><BR></P> <P></P> <DIV>--------------------------------------<BR><B>Kaeros Darjani</B><BR>Ranger For Life<BR>Culpa Somnus Imperium<BR>Butcherblock</DIV> <P></P> <HR> <P>/emote is so glad to not be on Butcherblock. :smileytongue:</P> <P>Message Edited by jwmaynar on <SPAN class=date_text>11-08-2005</SPAN><SPAN class=time_text>02:15 PM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by jwmaynar on <span class=date_text>11-08-2005</span> <span class=time_text>02:15 PM</span>

[Te]

<P>Good point Visio<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P> </P> <P>Tbh if youre new to the game and dont know so many classes it can be a good idea to try different types out. Like mage, scout, priest or fighter. Those are the four main ones and after 13 fast lvl's youll know the difference between em well enough to make your choise<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

[krlsrr]

<P>Phew, nothing likes lots of responses to a simple hello <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>I've actually manage to accrue 3 characters now through a bit of experimentation etc so now have a mage, fighter and a scout but I was planning to have a straight artisan so do u just ignore the bloke on the docks when he asks 'are you a fighter/mage/scout/priest' and just do the artisan bits in the tower? Does it impact negatively if you are a mixed archetype/artisan in comparison to a straight artisan?</P> <P>My mage has joined a society and got a trainer in her hometown but the magic system looks quite cool so not sure i'll use her in that way.</P> <P>Oh, and apologies for going off on a tangent about artisans on a rangers forum but one thing I have noticed is a lack of FAQ's stickied to the top of forums. That was something that SWG was very good at, or at least the forum correspondents anyway.</P> <P>Rgds</P>

[jarlaxle8]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> coltlane wrote:<BR>The pet is not COMPLETELY useless. I use my bear when I'm harvesting in the Ferrott, After I zone on the docks, I cast, and anchor him there. Then when I get an add while harvesting I [evade line], it takes off running for my bear and I can use my ranged attacks.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>hell. that is brilliant! :smileyvery-happy: why haven't you mentioned this before? you just come here and say it like it's obvious :smileytongue: <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>hi to our new halfling ranger btw :smileyhappy:</DIV> <DIV>--------------------------<BR><A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=383113204" target=_self>Ryilan Nightbreeze </A><BR>--------------------------</DIV><p>Message Edited by jarlaxle888 on <span class=date_text>11-09-2005</span> <span class=time_text>02:34 PM</span>

[krlsrr]

<P>Sorry, another n00b question ... how to people ccope with such small inventories?</P> <P>I have 3 bags with 4 item spaces each but still, thats barely anything !! I see you can get better bags, am aiming to craft as good as I can with my mage/artisan but anyway to increase it more??</P> <P>Coming from SWG where u had 80 slots, and packs with another 50, it's quite a shellshock. Spent ages looking for a scroll bar <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Rgds</P> <DIV>p.s. can u place anything in your room? Only seen option with a couple of books plus stuff u get from starting quest. Vault in room seems v small too.</DIV><p>Message Edited by krlsrrll on <span class=date_text>11-09-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:30 AM</span>

[jarlaxle8]

<P>you can get bigger bags, either buying from other players or questing (and npc merchants, if i am correct...). you know how all the buying and selling with other players works?</P> <P>if i add it up right i am somewhere between 80-100  slots with all my bags.</P> <P>and grats. tommorrow you're gonna get a 12 slot bag cause it's EQ2s birthday! :smileyvery-happy:</P> <P>--------------------------<BR><A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=383113204" target=_self>Ryilan Nightbreeze </A><BR>--------------------------</P> <P> </P>

[Jay]

<DIV>First, go to Nettleville and walk in the alley back behind the buildings, along the wall.. you'll get hailed by some shady dude who wants you to do a beer run for him. Go meet his brother by the NH mariner's bell, then instead of going back to the questgiver, hail the guard (Hastings?) on the way back and turn in the contraband goods. You'll get a nice bag as reward for a 2-minute quest. I'd also look for bags and boxes on the broker, or by 8-slot bags for 25s from the store in North Qeynos where the broker is.</DIV>

[krlsrr]

<P>lol, only 25s ... i get excited when I get more than 2s <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Thanks for the quick 2 min quest though, will def do that and a 12 space bag tom for playing for a couple of days ... every character or just one?</P>

[Jay]

You can /claim the veteran reward items on three of the characters on your account, according to the patch notes.

[krlsrr]

<P>Sorry, yet another n00b question but am at work, bored and thing about EQ II too much <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>The skills I use are increasing great, is there any limit on how many skills you can increase? I see they have a maximum, presume thats based on either stats or your level and prof, but is there some form of 'skill point allocation' as I'm increasing loads of skills as doing alot of foraging and fighting.</P> <P>Hope that makes sense, have a headache but it seems phrased right to me.</P> <P>Rgds</P>

[Jay]

<P>Nah, you don't really allocate skill points, you just increase your skills by utilizing them. Which means you need to 'practice' to keep the important ones maxed - like using DW slashers <STRONG>and </STRONG>piercers is to keep both skills up. Same with your ranged skill, safe fall, defensive skills, harvesting skills, crafting skills, etc. </P> <P>The only time I can think of that you make a choice of adding to one ability over the other is when you pick your attribute bonuses and can add +4 to STR, AGI, STA, etc. </P>

[Dasanhgul]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jay42 wrote:<BR> <P>Nah, you don't really allocate skill points, you just increase your skills by utilizing them. Which means you need to 'practice' to keep the important ones maxed - like using DW slashers <STRONG>and </STRONG>piercers is to keep both skills up. Same with your ranged skill, safe fall, defensive skills, harvesting skills, crafting skills, etc. </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>The only ones I have problems keeping maxed to my level is <STRONG>Safe Fall</STRONG> (so much fun with your guild mates go AFK and follow on you) and <STRONG>Focus</STRONG> (dont get hit that much).<BR></DIV>

[krlsrr]

<P>Thats great thanks, yet again the EQ II forums come up trumps <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Just a pity there isn't really good up-to-date stickies for n00b help, thats one thing the SWG forums were good at. At the top of every profession are stickied FAQ's etc. Have seen them in a few places but not all.</P> <P>Rgds</P>

[Jay]

Coming up with a list of FAQs has been on my to-do list for a while, I agree that we could really use a list of "things I wish I'd known when I was a young ranger" to give new people a good reference for a lot of common issues.

[jarlaxle8]

<P>seeing that you are now a predator, here is one thing i'd wished i knew earlier:</P> <P>you can use poison. get em at npc alchemists (one in south qeynos) or player crafted from broker.</P> <P>if i remember correctly i was already low ranger when i learned that i could use poison... :smileyvery-happy:</P> <DIV>--------------------------<BR><A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=383113204" target=_self>Ryilan Nightbreeze </A><BR>--------------------------</DIV>

[krlsrr]

<P>Cool, now that I didn't know. My other character is Artisan 9 with 1 more thing to make to finish quest to be lvl 10 so will see what I can do.</P> <P>Is poison that good then? Seems very 'un-rangerish' but i'm not gonna look a gift horse in the mouth <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Rgds</P>

[Jay]

<DIV>Poison is absolutely essential for all rogue and predator classes, IMO. Our DPS was designed with the assumption that we're using it, so if you're not, you fall short of the damage you're intended to do. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As for RP reasons behind poison... I know my kerran ranger wouldn't think twice about using a lethal substance to hasten the slaughter of orcs and demons and the like. These are evil creatures who will kill me and my companions if given the chance, and rangers are likely to live according to the rule of tooth and claw - the strong survive, the weak perish, and I'll pursue any advantage that makes me that much stronger and more likely to survive. A wolf isn't evil b/c she attacks and kills a deer fawn - she's just hungry and needs to feed her cubs. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Besides, being a good class doesn't mean you're a cream-puff - our profession specializes in wholesale murder! Being 'good' just means that you're willing to make sacrifices to help someone, that you're inclined to put others' needs above your own, instead of ruthlessly pursuing your own self-interest at every turn. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Just my 2cp, as usual. </DIV>

[brandi7920]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> coltlane wrote:<BR>The pet is not COMPLETELY useless. I use my bear when I'm harvesting in the Ferrott, After I zone on the docks, I cast, and anchor him there. Then when I get an add while harvesting I [evade line], it takes off running for my bear and I can use my ranged attacks.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>OMG!!! I can't WAIT to go home and try this! Sheesh - why did I not think of that??? Thank you for a great idea!!!! /bow</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And hellooo to the new halfling Ranger!!! I love halflings - they are so cute!!! My alt is a lvl 30 halfling Berzerker with blonde pigtails. :smileywink:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And btw - Jay - thanks for the mental of you harvesting in the buff - ROFL!!!! </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Saihung23]

Another thing "I wish I knew when I was a young ranger" is dual wield...I was waiting to be "granted" this ability at a level up...I never knew that it was an automatic thing upon creation. So, if you did not know, you can dual wield.  Also, there is a guy named Ian in QH to begin your armor quests once you hit 20th. <div></div>

[krlsrr]

<P>Thanks for all the advice. Have been dual wielding for a little while now, 1 slashing weapon and 1 piercing for skill increase. My 2nd character is now Scolar 11 so am just collecting resources to make poison.</P> <P>As for halflings beiong cute .... eeeuuurrggghhh !?!? We are hunters of the wildernes, we go where no other hunter can and say i'm cute again and i'll bite your kneecaps !!</P> <P>Rgds</P>

[Te]

Oh so my kneecaps will have the colour of rouge, how cute;P

[krlsrr]

<P>lol, thanks for that <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Quick qyuestion though (lol, quite a few of those) ... is the station pass worth getting? Am thinking of keeping 1 character going on SWG so that'll be 2 a/c's in total so about £20 / month.</P> <P>Whats the station pass cost, and how does it work?</P> <P>Rgds</P>