who enjoys the new sneak animation

[hieronym]

<DIV>As above,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>not sure if i like the full upright run change they gave us. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>To me it looks like a finger wiggler has invised us. Much prefered the scurry about look even if the invis itself is soooo slow.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>thoughts?</DIV>

[Jay]

<P><FONT size=2>I don't like it either, really. It's a pretty minor thing, but I don't want to look like I'm <EM>invisible,</EM> I want to look like I'm sneaking. Stealth ability vs a simple mage spell. I loved the crouching look, it was appropriate for a scout sneaking. I use Hagar's Camouflage, and my move speed while stealthed was nearly the same as normal run speed - and that high-speed swarming crouch was awesome to watch, I got a lot of comments from groups who hadn't seen a stealthed scout move like that. </FONT></P> <P><FONT size=2>And really...why change something that wasn't broken at <STRONG>all</STRONG>? Where are the throngs of scouts crying out for this change? LOL! SOE...please change back now, and try and fix the bugged invisibility skills while you're at it? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></FONT></P>

[Vecsus_E]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> hieronymus wrote:<BR> <DIV>As above,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>not sure if i like the full upright run change they gave us. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>To me it looks like a finger wiggler has invised us. Much prefered the scurry about look even if the invis itself is soooo slow.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>thoughts?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I like the change.  The old crouch made us look like we were trying to take a dump while we ran. 

[Flust]

I like the old animation... I felt like I was sneaking around.  Now, it just seems like I'm running in slow motion to the Chariots of Fire song.

[Sunjaguar]

I'm locked out of the game right now can anyone post a screenshot with the new effect?

[Vecsus_E]

<DIV>umm...no need for a screen shot.  We look just like the casters when they use invis.  Running like normal but with the see-through look.</DIV>

[Sunjaguar]

<DIV>ahh thanks but what a bummer.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ajacks</DIV>

[Pil]

<P>For those of you who took the "Hagers" sneak that was near full speed, the old animation looked very stupid.  You were crouched, but were moving in a totaly unnatural way due the speed.  The new animation is a much more immersive way of representing that.</P> <P>I would not mind going back to the old animation for the slower types of sneak, because I did like that idea, but at full speed it was just unworkable.</P> <P> </P>

[Neumann]

<P>i dont like it, it shifts my view cus i play in first person and brings it back down when i stop or slow down. i dont  like stupid animal form buffs either , it makes me feel like im alrdy crouched in combat,  it confuses me cus i pop in and outa stealth using different skills in combat.</P> <P> </P>

[Jay]

<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=2></FONT> <HR> Pilar wrote:<BR> <P><FONT size=2>For those of you who took the "Hagers" sneak that was near full speed, the old animation looked very stupid.  You were crouched, but were moving in a totaly unnatural way due the speed.  The new animation is a much more immersive way of representing that.</FONT></P> <P><FONT size=2>I would not mind going back to the old animation for the slower types of sneak, because I did like that idea, but at full speed it was just unworkable.<BR></FONT></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><FONT size=2>Unworkable how? It functioned fine, absolutely no problems. If it "looked very stupid" to you, that's fine, but the 'new animation' (which isn't new at all, just looks like any old invisibility spell) is less immersive to me than the crouched movement. That actually appeared as though the scout was sneaking...stealth, you know? Now it looks like we're just walking around like everyone else, we just happen to be transparent, as any 12-year old mage apprentice with an invis spell.</FONT></P> <P><FONT size=2>I'm disappointed b/c they took one of the few remaining things that designated us as 'scouts' and made us look like everyone else. The crouched animation just looked much more stealthy, no matter how fast you moved. I know they'll never change this back, but they took a little bit more of the fun out of my ranger with this change. </FONT></P>

[chanaho]

I noticed this for the first time last night. I thought it was just for hagers speed stealth so when moving fast we wouldn't appear to be hunched with an unnatural look (try moving fast while squating). Anyways, can anyone confirm if this works on all stealths or just hagers? And if it does work on all I hope the other stealths are walking and not running or I wasted a lvl 20 upgrade. <div></div>

[hieronym]

<DIV>with all of the invis spells you run now instead of scurrying. Even the attacks that stealth you.</DIV>

[CyahLaytar]

<P>I noticed this last night, and I'm not sure I like the change so much.  The crouched sneak stance made it known what we were about.  We are rangers, we are sneaking, not some foo-foo invis spell using spell-slinger.  I never had a problem with the old crouched style, even helped sometimes with the change in camera angles while in third person.  Not sure that this "needed" fixing, other things they should be working on that changing something we liked....</P> <P> </P> <P>Beowolfe</P> <P>Unrest</P> <P>Ranger</P>

[DragonK]

<P>I'd rather not crouch, personally. I would rather not sneak, since I find it hard to believe that I can hide from sight while crouching directly in front of a mob. For me it always had to be magic or mystical. And it if it is that important to you, you can hit 'c' and crouch.. or work your stealths into macros that hit 'c' for you.</P> <P> </P> <P>'I can't see, hear, smell, touch or taste him but I am pretty sure I am sharing this chair with a halfling ranger.' - Antonia Bayle (if I ever get into that castle)  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

[Jay]

<P><FONT size=2>I'm aware that we can still crouch, thanks. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I'd rather not take the speed hit. I still don't like the change, but we have a lot bigger problems to contend with, now. </FONT></P> <P><FONT size=2>Totally off-topic: I'd love to see some accountability on the rating system. The one-star cowards might actually have to voice their opinions instead of insulting someone from hiding like pathetic, spineless forms of cave-dwelling vermin. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></FONT></P>

[Vecsus_E]

<DIV> </DIV><p>Message Edited by Vecsus_EQ2 on <span class=date_text>03-23-2005</span> <span class=time_text>05:09 PM</span>

[Vecsus_E]

<DIV>edit: double post due to SOE's lame board system</DIV> <P>Message Edited by Vecsus_EQ2 on <SPAN class=date_text>03-23-2005</SPAN><SPAN class=time_text>05:09 PM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Vecsus_EQ2 on <span class=date_text>03-23-2005</span> <span class=time_text>05:09 PM</span>

[Vecsus_E]

Do what i do, turn the rating system off in your profile.  its a [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] system anyway.  People make excellent suggestions and the brain-dead mouth-breathers 1-start them.  then those same short-bus riders 5-star posts made by their inbred kin.  I sincerly hope SOE employees have the start system filtered out.

[Nerull]

I love it, when moving fast for long distances it's much easier on the eyes.

[lilmohi]

I personally hate the change, i loved sneaking feel of moving through high grass in a crouch, and the bouncing up and down when you stop just gets plain irritating.

[Rhen]

I agree with the general concensus... let's have the old animation back, or at least find out why it was changed? Who at SOE thought it was a good idea? Do they actually play a Ranger?

[Alluna E]

<P>I actually prefer the new way.    It felt extremely silly running almost full speed in a crouch.   </P> <P>IMO the lower level ones should be in the crouch (old way) and the higher level faster ones should be upright (new way).  </P>

[lilmohi]

Honestly i don't care if we stand or crouch, i just think we should do one or the other, and not constantly shift back and forth every time we start/stop moving. <DIV>I prefer our sneak be visually different than caster's invisibility, but the actual method of achieving such is up for grabs.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>An active camoflage look would be sweet, so if were standing on a green field, instead of being a grey shadow in sneak mode we would be a green shadow.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Trei]

Didn't read the whole thread, not sure if anyone mentioned this yet but.. This is not a change to stealthed movements, but to crouched movements rather. It just so happens that stealth = crouch. You will find that now when you just crouch and move, its the same slow jog style. Yeah I very much prefer this to before. <div></div>

[Fallnangel]

<P>Is it my imagination or did Hagar's also take a speed hit?  Maybe it was just the animation, but the speed in my crouch seemed *much* faster.  Last night, while running through Nek, I could not keep up with the Pally that I was with (he was on foot) even with Pathfinder engaged.</P> <P>Just wondering.</P> <P>Alateriel, Wood Elf Ranger</P> <P>Lavastorm</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[LoreSpa]

As long as I am in stelth mode I am happy... Hagars Camo the only way to go! <div></div>

[kyshander]

When I am sneaking, I occilate between crouching and upright.  I stand upright if I'm going in a straight line and crouch if I change direction.... anyone know if this is intended?

[VaamE]

<DIV> <DIV>Another poster hit a good point... why change something that wasn't really broken, cosmetic in nature and no body complained about?  I've not been playing due to RL stuff in over a month... did they post the change anywhere with explanation?  Or, maybe, somehow, the crouching did affect something that is not obvious..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> </DIV>

[sjaste]

They've changed it again now as far as I can tell when not moving we are crouched when moving we are normal caster in invisability not sneaking scouts. The look it not what anonys me; it's that when we stop moving my screen suddenly drops down and when we start it goes up it makes it hard to consintrate on anything. 

[Davilan]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> LoreSpade wrote:<BR>As long as I am in stelth mode I am happy... Hagars Camo the only way to go!<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>For sure, forget the other trait spells, I do plenty of damage with my adept 1's and this spell is a must for dungeons :smileywink: