When and what was the last ^^ you killed solo? Ranger Research :)

[Nulad]

Just doing a little Ranger research <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Please can I get some information from you all, and lets try to keep this thread on topic and as concise as possible.When and what was your last solo ^^ kill, what colour was the mob and what level were you.Also please can you tell me of any ^^ gray mobs that you are unable to kill.Mine:Not been able to kill any ^^ coloured mobs since the agility change.Unable to kill ^^ gray Highland stalkers in Thundering steppes, usually mange to take them to somewhere about 2/3 health before I am dead or running.Level 29 Ranger using shield and sword when soloing.Ta,Nul.

[Zaber]

<DIV>When I was in lv 23 I could do green double arrows lv 19 mobs  in TS , when I hit 24 I got my [FAAR-NERFED!] handed to me by green lv 20 double arrow and the lv 19 's were grey.</DIV>

[CyberE]

<DIV>At lvl 50 I soloed a lvl 42 ^^ lizard hunter in CT and almost died. It kept hitting me even when I have 199 agility. </DIV> <DIV>But I didn't die. =p with like 10% hp left. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I was losing against a lvl 44 leopard in Everfrost which conned green to me. I was at 20% when it was at 60%. </DIV>

[-vali]

At 36 (I'm 37 now) - I was able to take down green Impaler Wasps ^^ in EL, and the green Grove Badgers^^, but just *barely*... I was always in the red near the end of the fight. I've got a Polished Granite Tomahawk (has a proc that wards for 500, among other things), if it werent for that ward going off every now and then, I dunno how successful I'd have been.All gear is in yellow / orange range, agi after my self-buff is around 165-170Would have to kite a couple times during the fight, to hit a triple shot, or a wounding arrow.

[chanaho]

<DIV>lvl 22 ranger. I went from one night, Feb16, fighting rotstuff scarecrows ^^ green looking for loot. Finished fights at 7/8th health. Then came Feb17 and I had to run like a baby from them with me at 10% health, them at 75-85%. The only change inbetween was the patch. However I noticed that any solo's at blue/white I could still handle the same as before . There's some change out there that basically seems to say "do not fight any heroics only solos" if your a solo'er. The rotstuff scarecrow^^ green became a heroic on feb 17. What I can't stand about this is most everything out there is now listed as heroics! Comes a time when you get tired of only being able to fight wolves, bears, snakes.....  etc.</DIV> <DIV>To stick with the topic, I got whooped by a gray^^ gnoll also. </DIV>

[Timt]

Level 39 Ranger and I never even bother to try a ^^ mob unless it's grey. Got my butt handed to me so many times now by green ^^ mobs <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />For what it's worth, my Cleric can take on ^^ green/blue mobs without even breaking a sweat, although not tried whites/yellows yet.EDIT: Just to say I don't think you should be able to solo any ^^ mobs that are green or above. If you are real lucky/skillful then you should be able to solo ^ mobs up to blue/white. Otherwise, it just makes the whole con system a sham.<p>Message Edited by Timtim on <span class=date_text>02-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:19 PM</span>

[Nulad]

<blockquote><hr>Moorgard wrote:<DIV>I've been watching this thread since it started, trying to see a pattern. I've also tried to duplicate the issues reported here on my own.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>With my bruiser I've fought blue solo mobs, white advanced solo mobs, and green ^^ group mobs. All solo. In all cases, I preformed just as I did before the update. Blue and green solo mobs do very little damage to me. The white took me down to about half, green ^^s varied a bit depending on mob type but I was never in real danger. Blue ^^ group mobs weren't even tried, because those will usually own me. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>(And yes, I play legit. No special buffs, no special gear, no twinking. Everything earned and paid for the old fashioned way.)</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>In a group last night, I noticed absolutely no difference in my performance.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>As this is my own character I can't speak for all levels of play, but I can say that we took no deliberate action designed to limit the effectiveness of soloing at any level.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>So please, if you have specific data, by all means keep reporting it. But so far nobody in the office has verified this kind of issue.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>The one thing I can attest to (and did, in the update notes) is that wizard and warlock NPCs gained the same benefits that players did. The spells that NPCs pick is random out of a certain pool when they spawn. If you got very unlucky and a wizard NPC picked all spells that were upgraded (though there is a very small chance this would happen), they could do some *serious* damage.</DIV><hr></blockquote>The above post by Moorgard is what prompted my post. Hopefully if we get enough feedback something will change that makes Rangers somewhat better to solo.The thread I took the post from: http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=combat&message.id=31756&view=by_date_ascending&page=1Nul.<p>Message Edited by Nuladen on <span class=date_text>02-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:44 AM</span><p>Message Edited by Nuladen on <span class=date_text>02-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:45 AM</span>

[Asijin]

<DIV>I'm a level 45 Ranger and the last ^^ I solo'd was a Pungent Recluse in Feerrott... It was green (lvl 39 i think) to me at the time.  This was the first green mob i've killed in a long time, i don't actively hunt them.  I didn't have poison equipped at the time either, it jumped me while i was mining. </DIV>

[Kyriel]

<DIV>Its been a while, well it was a gnoll lvl 24++ and i was lvl 28 it con green to me, i had to run around most of the fight trying to get my arrows, after 10 minutes, i won wi th my healthon yellow, since then i havent had luck with any green ++, even a lvl 31 solo orc can bring me to yellow easily now :/</DIV>

[littleman17]

<DIV>I don't even try because: WE ARENT SUPPOSE TO BE ABLE TO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm tired of people [FAAR-NERFED!]ing cause they cant kill mobs they arent suppose to be able to take ne ways. I'm also tired of healers (lowest on dmg totem) being able to solo better than us.</DIV>

[Nulad]

<blockquote><hr>littleman17 wrote:<DIV>I don't even try because: WE ARENT SUPPOSE TO BE ABLE TO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm tired of people [FAAR-NERFED!]ing cause they cant kill mobs they arent suppose to be able to take ne ways. I'm also tired of healers (lowest on dmg totem) being able to solo better than us.</DIV><hr></blockquote>Why thankyou so much for keeping it on topic. Did you even read my post? If you did then you didn't understand it. Was I [FAAR-NERFED!]ing? No. I suggest before you post replies that you actually take the time to read the thread first. Or was I going to fast for you?Why are we not supposed to be able to solo them? If it's because they are Group mobs then why can Bruisers solo them? That sounds like a balance issue which brings us back to my research and the whole point of this thread in the first place.Now go breathe deep and calm down.Nul.

[Ginja A]

I managed to kill Towyn on the beach in Antonica. He coned green (2ups) to me. Level 20 he took me down to about 15% health.

[Teler]

<DIV>Tried to solo a level 43 ^ ^ sheep in PF yesterday, grey con to 50 by one level.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>75% of it's special attacks went through and hit for up to 1000 damage. To be honest I didn't expect a grey con to be able to even remotely take me out, so I died since I hadn't applied all my selfbuffs nor watched my HP or the dmg spam window.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Then I did a 2nd run with all selfbuffs and preparations, told short: The sheep owned me again, one second later.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So... at level 50... I get owned by a grey ^ ^ sheep while an also level 50 Monk can solo blue ^ ^ giants without any problems, yes, after the Agi nerf, before the Str nerf. Not even if the monk would have all adept 3 or all master skills and all T5 playermade gear anyone could persuade me that this is balanced.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>To SOE: If you call that balanced, you are in DIRE need to pay a few millions for a strategy consultant to do your job for you... well maybe teaching you the meaning of balance would be only a few thousand dollars, but balancing classes as needed... would make you double the fees for players I guess....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>One company that might be able to help: <A href="http://www.mckinsey.com/" target=_blank>http://www.mckinsey.com/</A> <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[MillsFairchild]

<blockquote><hr>littleman17 wrote:<DIV>I don't even try because: WE ARENT SUPPOSE TO BE ABLE TO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm tired of people [FAAR-NERFED!]ing cause they cant kill mobs they arent suppose to be able to take ne ways. I'm also tired of healers (lowest on dmg totem) being able to solo better than us.</DIV><hr></blockquote>What I'm tired of is people saying we aren't supposed to be able to kill them.Why do you think they changed the con message from "<b>group</b>" to "<b>heroic</b>"? Because it more accurately reflects the type of fight. Are things balanced? As far as soloing goes, I don't think so. Some classes can solo "<b>heroic</b>" encounters and others can't. But that doesn't mean that we're not SUPPOSED to be able to...Even Moorgard solos them with his toon. If nobody is supposed to be able to do it, then why are the devs doing it as a normal practice?And to answer the original poster's question... the last ^^ I soloed with my ranger was a lvl 19^^ zombie in TS. We all know how much harder things got when those mobs hit 20.The last ^^ I soloed with my Paladin... any ^^ mob 2 or 3 levels below my current level.The last ^^ I soloed with my Illusionist... ROFL.<p>Message Edited by MillsFairchild on <span class=date_text>02-21-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:34 AM</span>

[MistDragon]

<DIV>And to answer the original poster's question... the last ^^ I soloed with my ranger was a lvl 19^^ zombie in TS. We all know how much harder things got when those mobs hit 20.<BR><BR>__________________________________</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Same here the  undead Farmers  I could solo them at lvl 23 but not now at 24.</DIV>

[xandez]

<DIV>Well... this is funny, im 33 now, can do lvl 28 heroic mobs with ease when they are NOT casters <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV>(This includes also both ^ and ^^mobs)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>When try to do lvl 29 w/o arrows heroic mob, no chance, have to run to mama! <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Heh... those 28^^ wont give much exp, but they still give some loot which solo mobs dont give, </DIV> <DIV>so thats the only reason i sometimes do them, oh and i need 3 more giant totems, thats another <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>++Xan</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[JaggNomr]

<DIV>Let's see, the last ^^ i remember killing would have been the Scarecrows when i was around 20-21, and it was two of them at once. I moved on to TS and got wiped by a ^^ unearthed villager/settlers, so i went back and killed his Non-^ buddy. The big difference came after 22, when I moved my hunting to TS, I noticed a drastic change.</DIV>

[jujury]

<DIV>Soloed that enraged octopus that spawns as a result of the fishbone earring quest that spawns when you visit the ship.  After i evacced i was running around doing a couple other things and found i was still in combat mode.  But was able to solo him np.  I am level 34 he was 31^^.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Juju</DIV>

[Kthaara]

<DIV>I don't think that I have been able to solo a ^^ since coming to TS, unless they are gray.  I don't kite, but I seriously don't think that makes much of a difference.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Kwent</DIV>

[IsleWit]

got my [FAAR-NERFED!] handed to me in 3 hits by he zombie handmaidens. they con green 22^ and i am 25. In 3 hits i was in red terretory. This is comming from someoje that has ALMOST all orange gear/weapons and many adept 3s. I should have owned them, but instead got beat down pretty badly, thank god for evac. I hardly solo anymore unless it to finish grey quests.

[michael_r]

<DIV>The last ^^ mob i solod was an undead in TS lvl 19mob.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Last mob i faild to solo (gray mob) was a firerock giant. It was a caster (lvl 27 i think) and when i evacd at10% health he was still at 50%+.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Im not mad that gray mobs can own me anymore (happend all the time in EQ1 that mobs that dident give you xp could kill you), i just try to see witch mobs i can still kill and do those (for quests).</DIV>

[Flust]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kthaara wrote:<BR> <DIV>I don't think that I have been able to solo a ^^ since coming to TS, unless they are gray.  I don't kite, but I seriously don't think that makes much of a difference.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Kwent</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Kiteing can make a huge difference.   At 31, I can't solo any ^^s above 24 with  melee.  I can however solo ^^ white cons and with some luck a ^^ yellow, if I kite them.   Kiteing is way to ineffcient to do for lvling up.  It eats a lot of arrows, plus it takes a good deal of time and space to do.  </DIV>