Petition to the Devs

[faranth]

<DIV>Any suggestions on what we want from the devs the next time they patch and try to "FIX" something. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I would like 3 things:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>1. A close range Arrow Attack. Something in the fashion of being able to stabs them with an arrow and then shoots it that would be nice. It would be nice if this had a stun affect so we can back off enough and get a shot off.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2. Archery HO? Can something be implimented where we get a solo and group HO involving our Archery?</DIV> <DIV>Something like a <FONT color=#ff0000>Rain of Arrows </FONT>where it has an area of affect.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>3, Better Arrows, Better Arrows, Better arrows... Can we see stats for the arrows, can we get info on the various damage affects they do,  Can we get a quiver so we can hold more then <FONT color=#66ff00>99 arrows</FONT>?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>thank you</DIV> <P>Message Edited by faranthil on <SPAN class=date_text>01-11-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>06:07 PM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by faranthil on <span class=date_text>01-11-2005</span> <span class=time_text>06:08 PM</span>

[Ra]

<DIV>/sign</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Good ideas that I haven't thought of </DIV>

[Braveswor]

<DIV>I quite agree about arrow stat (and other items). At the moment you have to just hope that more expensive means better and from my experience it is not always the case. Eg. some of the food and drink items may be twice as expensive but last the same time. Arrows vary <STRONG>hugely </STRONG>in price but although I haven't bought anything dearer than iron hinting I'm sure the difference would ot be that great.</DIV>

[Merkad]

I like the arrow stats part, but I sincerely hope there are zero more archery techs added to the ranger class, as I really only see it as holding us back. My reasons is simply cost. It sucks that makeshift arrows are complete junk, and feyiron are 1/20secs and borderline junk, added to the cost of good arows, even if I can make 15+ gold in a single night, I dont want to spend 1/2 of it on arrows jut to realize my potential. I absolutely abhor both the cost of arrows and the lack of makeshift arrows version 2. Lower one, or add in the other. Melee is so much better atm, you dont lose attacks due to having to move away from the mob, you dont have to keep paying to use it, and it has higher damage attacks to begin with. Where is my endless quiver?MerkadesA quick edit, for those who do like archery, SOE, you should really lower the delay of bows, I dont know about anyone else, but I have never even came close to hitting max on my bow, any of them, and 7.5secs is too long, even 4.5 is imo. And for the other camp, my highest archery tech is with maesyns, at about 500, my highest melee tech is with hagars at 728, hagars refreshes 15secs faster (45secs) and I dont suffer any of the above mentioned costs of archery.<p>Message Edited by Merkades on <span class=date_text>01-12-2005</span> <span class=time_text>05:14 AM</span>

[Ra]

<DIV>I would like to see an ability similar to Legolas at the end of Fellowship.  For 15 seconds, Ranged delay is incrediby decreased - Almost to the point where you can continuously fire arrow after arrow.  Maybe put a 5 min timer on it or something.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Of course... I would never use it because I couldn't afford the arrow drain... but it would be cool nonetheless. :smileywink:</DIV>

[Aulerd]

<DIV>Hmm well I agree with the arrows part it was VERY confusing for me what diffrence arrows made before I browsed the forums. I don't like the close range attack idea i do however agree that an archery ho would be very useful</DIV>

[Neec]

<DIV>i agree a quiver would be nice and descriptions on arrows.. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I would like to see a knockback stun type attack, where you kick your target back jsut far enuf to get of an arrow off.. Cuz lets be realistic you cant use arrows 90% of the game especially high end you cant KITE no room to move and in dungeons stray to far from group and you pull adds..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Luckily we get nice Melee DPS.. </DIV>

[LingusKh]

<blockquote><hr>Neecha wrote:<DIV>i agree a quiver would be nice and descriptions on arrows.. </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>I would like to see a knockback stun type attack, where you kick your target back jsut far enuf to get of an arrow off.. Cuz lets be realistic you cant use arrows 90% of the game especially high end you cant KITE no room to move and in dungeons stray to far from group and you pull adds..</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Luckily we get nice Melee DPS.. </DIV><hr></blockquote>In a group, you CAN melee and stick them full of arrows. If you are not using your bow in group combat, you are seriously reducing your DPS potential. There is a sweet spot in which you can melee and shoot arrows. You just have to find it. In solo situations? Gotta open with bow and stick them with daggers....<p>Message Edited by LingusKhan on <span class=date_text>01-12-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:55 AM</span>

[Rolar]

<DIV>yeah, i wish they had a buff that lowered bow dely by 2  seconds for like 3 min. and takes 6 min. to recharge...AND dual wield delay by maybe .5 delay.</DIV>

[Lithowynn]

<DIV>I agree with these points. We should have a HO that has something to do with bows. It would only make sense considering almost all of our skills deal with archery. Stats on arrows and lower  arrow prices. It seems to me that this isn't a very "adventurer friendly" game as far as making money is concerned. It would be nice if gnolls, orcs, etc. dropped some copper. It feels like I am almost forced to build up my artisan if I want to make some money. Rangers, in my opinion, should be better at what we do. Isnt there an attack we get later on where we pull an arrow out of an enemy and that causes more damage to them? I think we already have a skill like faranthill is wanting but we definitely need HOs and stats on arrows.</DIV>

[Squidwalk]

<DIV>I have been thinking about 2 and 3 for a while. Especialy an AOE attack for the encounter. I mean if I can jump and spin hitting a bunch of of mobs, why, and shoot 3 arrows real fast at one target, why can't I shoot several arrows into a group of mobs hitting them all? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We do need a range HO, especially one for the same purpose we use dirty tricks for. Cause having the HO starter come up and needing to run up from ranged to do it, sucks. </DIV>

[Ra]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Squidwalker wrote:<BR> <DIV>Especialy an AOE attack for the encounter. I mean if I can jump and spin hitting a bunch of of mobs, why, and shoot 3 arrows real fast at one target, why can't I shoot several arrows into a group of mobs hitting them all? </DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>We have it.. but we don't get it until level 50.  It's called Storm of Arrows.</DIV>

[Neec]

<DIV>Yes i know the sweet spot but its far to much hassle getting it every fight  and often you need to keep close in dungons with multiple roamers  and DPS.. well to be honest parsing MAX DPS with bow and Without bow theres nothing in it except buying fulginate arrows costs cash and melee dosnt.. oh i know i can use the junk  feyiron arrows that barely scratch  level 50 mobs but why should i waste 3 gold for a stack of arrows to  maybe increas my dps by 1-200 damage a fight. SOLO  its worth  using the bow mobs often  at least 1/4 hp down b4 they get to me ( level 49/50 solo mobs)..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>ive been in many groups where rangers look for sweet spot back and forth and by time the yfind it mopb is half dead or they inadvertanly pull an add and places like permafrost you gotta be quite a way back from mob to get arrows off not impossible but  a waste of time..</DIV>

[faranth]

<DIV>thanks guys for the response. i will compile a little memo. that i will post here b4 sending off to the devs asking for a little love... I know we are not Paladins and all... <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> but it cant hurt too much to look our way from time to time. (with out the nerfbat)</DIV>