Little confused on poison

[PorkCho]

<DIV>Im a little confused on poison. I tried it last night for the first time and i noticed the poison icon came up in the buff section after using the vial of poison.  Usually i keep my combat damage off of my chat but I put it back on last night to see if i could notice a difference. Well the weird part is there was no difference.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>How do you tell if the poison proc'd? I never noticed and different damage or increased damage.  Acidic Goo i think was the name of the poison i was using.</DIV>

[Vecsus_E]

<DIV>there will be a message mixed in with all the other combat spam.  How long did you test it?  Poison procs often but not constantly.  Hard for me to tell how often a single poison would proc since i run around with 4 or 5 applied at a time...makes a big difference.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[xirx]

<DIV>Were you hunting reds and oranges?</DIV> <DIV>What was the level of poison you used?<BR>Where you at the end of the poison's usefulness - (i.e. at 24, 29, 34, 39, etc)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I find that at the x4 and x9 levels, the poison is pretty much useless on anything but low blues, greens and grey mobs.  This is due to the fact that the poison is grey itself.  </DIV>

[Theo]

<DIV>do poinsons run out ?/ im confused .. i havnt tried them cause i didnt get the time to research them but the lil bit i did research i did i found they were kinda pricy not that bad .. but some were 30sp .. and i was confused if they run out like arrows and u need to replace them?</DIV>

[xirx]

<DIV>It is supposed to be 12 hours or 100 procs (including missed procs - i.e., 75 poison successes and 25 resists)</DIV>

[TMoorla]

<DIV>If it is 12 hours or 100 proc's I would think 100 procs would come Waaaaay before 12 hours was up,  wow what a freaking rip-off.  At first I was hesitant about poisons but then once I discovered them I was like, yeah, they rock.  12 hours..... but then I thought they were bugged because they kept going away when I zoned or sometimes just would go away.  If that is true, they suck big time.  That can be very pricey, shoot in like 10 fights you could be all done with poison.......and have to use another....  /sigh I hope this is NOT the case.  Will parse logs tonight and see.</DIV>

[bli]

<DIV>Yes, they poof after 100 procs.  This is really pretty reasonable, they add a tremendous amount of damage, and you don't have to BUY arrows anymore, so just redirect the funds. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[xirx]

<DIV>Level 30 poisons hit for rought 100 damage per proc</DIV>

[Ra]

<DIV>xirxes - you forget, different colored poisons have different initial damage/proc damage numbers.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>With that being said, what poison are you using? lol  I am using Caustic Goo which is Yellow color and hits for ??? initially and procs for 50-60</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It is my understanding that higher initial damage on poisons have lower procs to balance.  It's been awhile since I saw the post on this so I am a bit fuzzy.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Another thing was Poison's do indeed stack - but not from the same skill level.  It has been my experience that if I use a 150 skill poison and also apply a 100 skill poison, both seem to proc unless my eyes are seeing stuff.  The thing is, both run out at the same rate so you increase money spent.  <EM>This is also being fixed in "The Big Patch" (tm) so it will no longer work.</EM></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Oh.. and Pounce decimates the 100 proc allotment heh.  I was fighting tons of group mobs last night and opened with Pounce every time.  I used twice as much poison as I generally do.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Theo]

<DIV>aye pounce + poison = mass dmg all around u </DIV>

[xirx]

<DIV>ok.....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>yes, I understand initial and dot tick damage differs - <STRONG>however </STRONG>they all do roughly the same amount of damage <STRONG>per </STRONG>poison level <STRONG>per </STRONG>proc - so your pounce uses another proc up</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>pounce can be used on average once per fight</DIV>

[Theo]

<DIV>ya ... at what ever expense .. a good way to add extra dmg AE</DIV>

[Ra]

<DIV>What poison are you using though xirxes?  And where did you get it?  The reason I ask is I want to do some experimenting on my own and have been unable to find anything else at 150 skill other than Caustic Goo.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Pounce uses more than another proc.  Up to 5 procs per Pounce</DIV>

[xirx]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Ravi wrote: <DIV>Pounce uses more than another proc.  Up to 5 procs per Pounce</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>argh... you know what I mean... basically I am saying pounce does not use one proc for all possible attacks - it uses one proc per successful attack</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>South Qeynos poison shop - 2nd floor.</DIV>

[Ra]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> xirxes wrote:<BR><BR><BR> <DIV>argh... you know what I mean... basically I am saying pounce does not use one proc for all possible attacks - it uses one proc per successful attack</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>South Qeynos poison shop - 2nd floor.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Gotcha :smileywink:  And thanks.  I was up there but all I saw was 100 and 200.. Must have over looked them.  Thanks!<BR>