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traej
12-16-2004, 05:47 PM
I have a 21 Ranger, and I have the Hawk. He does nothing but follow me around and take up frame rates. I have had him get attacked by a mob, so maybe he is an aggro magnet. Does anybody know what the Hawk does or how to control him?Please help.

Dnoran
12-16-2004, 05:49 PM
<DIV>As far as I know nothing. I've been told if you yell for help it will jump on the mob enough for you to get away. I think it's just a teaser pet to pump you up for a real one you get later on.</DIV>

Martyr31
12-16-2004, 06:31 PM
<DIV>                          Well the ranger pet at lvl 40 is a bear. Its pretty big I hear but it still does nothing. I think that the only reason hawks or bears will attack is if they get AOE'd and such. Ive also had mobs aggro my pet if im running from them. I have also heard rumors of quicker power and health replenishment when ur pets out but, as I have seen, this is false.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>                                                         Thoron Ohtar</DIV>

Sanji
12-16-2004, 08:37 PM
<DIV>my hawk has saved my life a dozen times at least since i got him</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>as i run away i notice his health going down, and turn around to see him fighting the mob</DIV>

bli
12-16-2004, 09:14 PM
<DIV>yeah, as soon as you see his health start to go down hit the Anchor and ruunnnn</DIV>

Rolar
12-16-2004, 10:25 PM
<DIV>it doesnt. its a fluff spell. They just used a generic pet control inerface for it, but it guards and follows and thats it...its only took a hit for me 1 time, but ppl say if u stealth when u pull the mob will attack the bird.</DIV>

Teri_Pov
12-17-2004, 12:03 AM
<DIV>Mine has saved my life a few times.  He wont attack every time I run, but he does often.  Normally I'll run back to the side of my pet if he's taken agro and finish off the mob.  I dont get exp or loot, but revenge is sweet!</DIV>

bli
12-17-2004, 01:29 AM
<DIV>As far as using the mob to tank on a pull, there's no reliable way to do this, and we're such aggro generators anyway that I doubt it would last...the thing is, it's almost impossible to get the thing to attack the mob after you bring the mob to it, and no matter how much you evade/stalk the mob still thinks oyu're a more tasty morsel...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But yeah, Kabeker has taken aggro many a time for me while I'm running.  Faithful to the end.  I always honor his sacrafice with a song of mourning and a stout ale as soon as I get back to Qeynos.  I've had many ales since level 20. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><p>Message Edited by blitz on <span class=date_text>12-16-2004</span> <span class=time_text>12:29 PM</span>

Ragepowers
12-17-2004, 09:15 PM
<DIV>Here is what I have made use of my Hawk for:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <OL> <LI>Have him up incase you have to run to zone 9 times out of 10 he will get owned and you will get out of harms way.</LI> <LI>He becomes very usefull when Bow kiting multiple mobs, he will attack the opposite one I am attacking and end up aggroing the mob away from me. While I polish off my current target. At this point he holds the aggro and I just come up behind the mob and strip him of his worthless life. I have done this from greens to yellows. Havent tried any reds yet.</LI></OL>

Ragepowers
12-17-2004, 09:17 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> But yeah, Kabeker has taken aggro many a time for me while I'm running.  Faithful to the end.  I always honor his sacrafice with a song of mourning and a stout ale as soon as I get back to Qeynos.  I've had many ales since level 20. <IMG height=16 src="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" width=16 border=0>~<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>LOL, no doubt hehe.<BR>

Theo
12-17-2004, 10:13 PM
<DIV>ive actually done this soo many times w/ no problems ... im thinking the most importiant thing here is updated evade and agro reduction skillls ... anyway i pull a mob w/ a sneak atk .. getting one of my higher dmg spells off ... the mob turns and starts to atk obviously .. witch then w/ my bird out i evade .. the mob then turns right around on my bird .. ( the mob will only stay on bird a few seconds ) .. thus turnins his back on me for another sneak atk ... again the mob will only stay on the bird for a few seconds cause the bird dont atk .. so u have to be quick .. regardless the mob turns around for just enough time for u 2 get an atk off. i can say ive done this many of times and this gets easier w/ higher lvl evade and stuff like that.<BR>omg people stop calling the lvl 20 line of spells fluff spells .. they actually do a little something for each class .. just expierement w/ them .. i mean really</DIV>

Demon
12-18-2004, 03:46 AM
<DIV><FONT color=#ff0000>I had my first encounter with my Hawk last night. Group of 3 me a lvl 20 ranger a lvl 20 guardian and a lvl 24 fury were taking on rat queen. Fury got into trouble and next thing I know she had full life. after fight is over we won by the way one of the on lookers said one of our group members died. All three of us were t full health by that time and im like no oh wait my hawk died. That time the fury almost died the hawk drew the agro away so she wouldnt die. its a good birdie and woth the silver right there. Kittie won't eat.</FONT></DIV>

elorei
12-18-2004, 05:50 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Theory wrote:<BR> <DIV>omg people stop calling the lvl 20 line of spells fluff spells .. they actually do a little something for each class .. just expierement w/ them .. i mean really</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>please explain to us what the troubador, the necro, the templar, the inquisitor, the bringand, the mystic, the etcetcetc.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>sorry, got lost in a string of classes with fluff spells that do nothing.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>let me start over, pick any of the above mentioned classes and explain the use of the fluff spell.  i cant wait to hear the tactical use of flustering a member of your group.  or making them a frog.  or making them bow.  or knocking them down, or etcetc.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>sorry got lost again.</DIV>

bli
12-18-2004, 02:22 PM
<DIV>hahaha.  Great post, elorei <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

Maverickrav
12-18-2004, 04:47 PM
<DIV>As far as the 20th level "fluff" spells are concerned, I'd have to say that the only useful ones are obviously the SK and paladin mounts. It's a nice thing to have to summon the pets, it really is. But the way I feel about it, is that rangers, as great masters of the outdoors, should have some sort of "real" animal companion. A friend in arms that will not let the ranger die without a fight. To me, that is just automatically what I think of when I think of a fantasy genre ranger. I consider Everquest pretty traditional, following many tried and true fantasy guidelines, so I was really shocked when I found out that the ranger pets couldn't do anything. Rangers usually live in the forest exclusively, they interact with their environment directly on a day to day basis, chances are they have more than a couple animals they have befriended, all of which would be truly loyal to their ranger ally. Wouldn't you expect a hawk to at least try to distract the enemy so the ranger at least has an advantage? I suppose it's all about balancing issues, and I prefer having a hawk as "fluff" rather than not at all, I'm just saying that it really makes sense for the hawk to be able to attack. And as you go further down the line of the "fluff" spells, you really can't say a bear shouldn't be able to defend itself, hehe. </DIV>

Sanji
12-18-2004, 06:31 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Maverickraven wrote:<BR> <DIV>As far as the 20th level "fluff" spells are concerned, I'd have to say that the only useful ones are obviously the SK and paladin mounts. <BR> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <P><FONT color=#ffff99>i'd rather have my hawk as it is now than one of their horses...i was racing a paladin on his horse yesterday in TS...i was about 15 feet behind him and raced him for about 200 yards and there was no noticable gap that he gained on me....it was funny because he kept on zig-zagging to try to shake me but i followed him on every turn...i guess he didn't want me to know how slow his horse really was.</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ffff99>I do agree that a ranger should have a pet that he could command to attack...even if the pet is weak and dies quickly it would be very handy to transfer hate to the pet by getting it to attack as we ran away.</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ffff99>A ranger should have enough skill to be able to train a hawk to attack.</FONT></P>

Theo
12-19-2004, 02:40 AM
ah this thread .. only actually have 2 chars lvl'd past 20 atm .. 1 bieng a ranger and 1 bieng a pally i found +'s in both lvl 20 spells .. i read i have to prove myself or some b*llsh*t in another post to become forum worthy or something lol. .... a n y w a y .... i think to actually do so id have to play each each class to 20, expieriment, jot down all the info and stats, and then get back to the forum nazzies so that i can be as cool as them. .. sorry dont have time. im just sayn' the spells arent great and powerfull abilities that do all sorts of great things .. how ever its just bieng proven by the kids that are actually useing them daily that maybe they just arent for looks after all. these are the kids that arent saying " nah i didnt buy that crap spell .. or that spell is a waste of silver " p.s. .. just hard to belive that SOE gave a little bit more than "fluff" to 2 classes and left the others w/ crap <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> when i find out more of the other spells id be happy to post the info in a new thread for u kids

elorei
12-19-2004, 10:59 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Theory wrote:<BR>ah this thread .. only actually have 2 chars lvl'd past 20 atm .. 1 bieng a ranger and 1 bieng a pally i found +'s in both lvl 20 spells .. i read i have to prove myself or some b*llsh*t in another post to become forum worthy or something lol. .... a n y w a y .... i think to actually do so id have to play each each class to 20, expieriment, jot down all the info and stats, and then get back to the forum nazzies so that i can be as cool as them. .. sorry dont have time. im just sayn' the spells arent great and powerfull abilities that do all sorts of great things .. how ever its just bieng proven by the kids that are actually useing them daily that maybe they just arent for looks after all. these are the kids that arent saying " nah i didnt buy that crap spell .. or that spell is a waste of silver " <BR>p.s. .. just hard to belive that SOE gave a little bit more than "fluff" to 2 classes and left the others w/ crap <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> when i find out more of the other spells id be happy to post the info in a new thread for u kids<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>ok theory you do that.  ill wait with bated breath.</P> <P> </P> <P>fact is, making a member of your group (if they are lower lvl than you) bow doesnt do crap.</P> <P>it makes them bow.</P> <P> </P> <P>so if its hard to believe, well, its hard to believe.  its true though.</P>

Males
12-20-2004, 03:20 AM
<DIV>I hit level 20 ranger and I have no hawk.  Do I have to go buy him somewhere, or am I just missing something?</DIV>

Dikari
12-20-2004, 04:50 AM
<DIV>I like to play the role, I'm not a stat/benefit/uber character template chaser. I have a level 20 Ranger (I just hit 20 Ranger today) and a Level 20 Paladin and I <STRONG>love </STRONG>the horse and the hawk. A Paladin on a Horse is <STRONG>classic </STRONG>no matter how fast it runs (which is faster than the SoW speed of my wifes level 19 mystic by the way) and a Ranger with a Hawk is <STRONG>great </STRONG>(although a wolf wouldn't have been be bad either). Fluff or no fluff I love the pets and I'm happy to have them <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> And I'm looking forward to seeing how my loyal hawk reacts the next time I have to flee the scene. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Hunt well and be safe and have fun everyone!</DIV>

Theo
12-21-2004, 12:39 AM
<DIV>o found another ... wots that caster that has a lvl 20 cat pet? .. it has tanking capabilities allmost as good as ranger/ assasins .. ill stay keeping u updated</DIV>