Challenges with the Ranger: HAIKU

[Darkleaf_Nightwander]

<DIV> <DIV>The Ranger Sad, Weep<BR>Archery Not Viable<BR>Arrows Cost Too Much</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Robin Hood, Ranger<BR>Legolas, Also Ranger<BR>Wish The Devs Could See</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I Hate Poisons<BR>Toxin Not That Ranger like<BR>Want Old Damage Back</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I Need A Comrade<BR>One To Share the Battle Rage<BR>Not This Useless Pet</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Could Solo Yellow<BR>Not Since Damage Retuned<BR>Grouping Is Too Slow</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In The High End Game<BR>Hope That I Will Have A Role<BR>Did Not In EQ</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Game Is Deeper<BR>Than The Game Of World Of War<BR>Now If It Was Fun</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>One Is A Game Yes<BR>The Other Is A Job Yes<BR>I Already Work<BR></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Feel Free To Flame Me</DIV> <DIV>I Will Smile At The Heat</DIV> <DIV>Please Reply Haiku</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>~DL~</DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV>

[bli]

<DIV>Haiku should never,</DIV> <DIV>be longer than three lines of</DIV> <DIV>meaningless garbage</DIV>

[aganaster]

<DIV>legolas, never a ranger .</DIV> <DIV>was elven archer.</DIV> <DIV>weep for people to read</DIV> <DIV>the books understand that simple fact.</DIV> <DIV>-soory had to make fun of the poem but still legolas wasnt a ranger. i hate it when ppl say that he is. :smileymad:</DIV>

[N4MID4ST]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>/clap</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>thanks, i enjoyed this :robotvery-happy: </FONT></DIV>

[Keh]

Legolas is a ranger *teese*nice stuff <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Faro]

<DIV>LOL!!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>By the way... I say a guy named Leeggolias or something like that... When people know you're taking a name from something, they know it's not original - so why do some people do it, lol?</DIV>

[redsuns]

<DIV>Do you kno who was a ranger tho?  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Drizzt Do'Urden - a **ZOMG** sexy ranger at that!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Hail all Dark Elf rangers!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[redsuns]

<DIV>Oh yea, cheers!  nice haiku <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  much laughter!</DIV>

[Vifarc]

<div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div><blockquote><hr>aganaster wrote:<div>legolas, never a ranger .</div> <div>was elven archer.</div> <div>weep for people to read</div> <div>the books understand that simple fact.</div> <div>-soory had to make fun of the poem but still legolas wasnt a ranger. i hate it when ppl say that he is. :smileymad:</div><hr></blockquote>I made a search. This quote is what I wanted to say. Please EQ2 officials, don't say Legolas is a Ranger (dont remember where is this recent interview).He is a pure warrior elite bowman, not a warrior whose job is finding the ways behind enemy lines.Historically, rangers as "Long range warrior" means a warrior who goes far behind through enemy lines, a commando one. He can be a sniper, but that's not what define him.Legolas is not an elven SPECIALISED in commando (else all elven have stealth and good seeing), he is specialised in bow combat, and secondary in dual knives.Aragorn IS specialised in infiltrations (he is a Ranger), secondary in sword combat, tertiary in healing, and only fourth in archery.</div><p>Message Edited by Vifarc on <span class="date_text">05-18-2006</span> <span class="time_text">08:32 AM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Vifarc on <span class=date_text>05-18-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:36 AM</span>

[TaleraRis]

Taken that way, no. In D&D terms, though, and which is the basis for class set up in EverQuest games, Legolas is an archery specialized ranger. He has nasty feats like Precise Shot and Point Blank Shot, Advanced Two-Weapon Fighting and I'm sure I could find others if I looked over my ranger's sheet that match him. Aragorn I would say is more Fighter with some of the new Scout base class from Complete Adventurer(? I think it's that one) mixed in. <div></div>

[Vifarc]

<div><blockquote><hr>TaleraRis wrote:Taken that way, no. In D&D terms, though, and which is the basis for class set up in EverQuest games, Legolas is an archery specialized ranger. He has nasty feats like Precise Shot and Point Blank Shot, Advanced Two-Weapon Fighting and I'm sure I could find others if I looked over my ranger's sheet that match him. Aragorn I would say is more Fighter with some of the new Scout base class from Complete Adventurer(? I think it's that one) mixed in. <div></div><hr></blockquote>I think you're mistaken. Else in weaponry, Legolas is not a good scout (for his level and for his race), then he is not a Ranger. And why a warrior would be forbidden to take the Ranger weapon feats??Aragorn shows he is skilled in many outdoor things first, what is impossible for d&d warriors.</div>

[Teksun]

The Haiku thread gone Ruined by the old debate Why will they not learn <div></div>

[Jay]

<P>That's all well and good<BR>But Gandalf's a paladin<BR>And I can prove it.</P> <P>:smileysurprised:  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

[TaleraRis]

LOL Kae And I still have to disagree. The new starting Scout class is closer to the idea of someone being skilled in the outdoorsman fields. D&D Ranger focus either goes to archery or two-weapon fighting and deals somewhat in tracking, but less so than the Scout class. That's why I think Aragorn is more Fighter/Scout. And nothing says he can't take certain feats. The beauty of 3e is that so long as you can make the prerequisites, you can take anything. Heck, I currently have a Blade Dancer/Sorceror who has Two-Weapon Fighting. <div></div>

[Jay]

<DIV>I'm rusty on my D&D rules (I haven't played PnP since 3E came out), but ranger was always a warrior class in that game, IIRC. That alone pretty much sets it apart from the EQ version. They get free Ambidexterity and Two-Weapon Fighting feats if they wear studded leather or lighter, and class skill access to things like tracking and animal ju-ju, but at the end of the day, they're a type of fighter. </DIV>

[Jayad]

<DIV>dropped from the raid</DIV> <DIV>useless bird eats some crackers</DIV> <DIV>winter of nerf hell</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(technically, haiku should be about/set in the seasons or nature)</DIV>

[TaleraRis]

<blockquote><hr>Jay42 wrote:<div>I'm rusty on my D&D rules (I haven't played PnP since 3E came out), but ranger was always a warrior class in that game, IIRC. That alone pretty much sets it apart from the EQ version. They get free Ambidexterity and Two-Weapon Fighting feats if they wear studded leather or lighter, and class skill access to things like tracking and animal ju-ju, but at the end of the day, they're a type of fighter. </div><hr></blockquote>Not so any longer.  3.5 overhaul of rangers in D&D introduced a dual pathway for progression: a focus on archery or a focus on two-weapon fighting. <div></div>

[Karnacc]

<P>Nice Haikus</P> <P>Funny AND true..</P> <P>dont mind the critics..good job</P>

[Teksun]

<blockquote><hr>TaleraRis wrote:<blockquote><hr>Jay42 wrote:<div>I'm rusty on my D&D rules (I haven't played PnP since 3E came out), but ranger was always a warrior class in that game, IIRC. That alone pretty much sets it apart from the EQ version. They get free Ambidexterity and Two-Weapon Fighting feats if they wear studded leather or lighter, and class skill access to things like tracking and animal ju-ju, but at the end of the day, they're a type of fighter. </div><hr></blockquote>Not so any longer.  3.5 overhaul of rangers in D&D introduced a dual pathway for progression: a focus on archery or a focus on two-weapon fighting. <div></div><hr></blockquote>Dang TSR, always nerfing the classes and changing all the rules. That's it, I'm gonna quit, I think I'll go play GURPS, at least Steve Jackson hasn't lost his vision of what an RPG is SUPPOSED to be... DANG that Gary Gygax....<div></div>