Rolled a Troub? Mistake?

[Mjolin]

Well,  I'm a new player who dabbled in eq1.  I loved bards there and so rolled a troub here.  I've been reading the boards and starting to think a dirge was a better choice?  Did i make a mistake?<div></div>

[Jeger_Wulf]

<DIV>Dirges and troubs could both use a little help. Not much to choose between them I think. However, they might get some loving in LU 32, so you might want to see what's up there.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'd think about a necro, swashbuckler or brigand if I were starting EQ2. Good luck whatever you choose. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Meskin]

<DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=799395619-29012007><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think troub is great.  Now, I have a pally (46), wizard (25), inquisitor (20) and some others in the teens, so I sort of know the game already, but they are great and the buffs for the group are awesome.  Yes, there are challenges, but if you read most of the class boards you will see that every class thinks that their class is the one getting left behind and every other class is overpowered.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=799395619-29012007><FONT face=Arial size=2>BTW, I rolled my troub for PvP and most people have said it is the worst class possible for PvP, but it seems any char you have, if you learn to play them correctly, are good classes.  I have no problems, other than the fact it is my first PvP toon and in the teens you are fighting against unbelievably twinked opponents (lvl 15's with all Mastercrafted and Fabled/Legendary gear and full line up of Master 1's...OUCH!!!  Here I am with my handcrafted level 3 earrings and beginner helm....lol!)</FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV>

[mausert]

<DIV>Yes, there are challenges, but if you read most of the class boards you will see that every class thinks that their class is the one getting left behind and every other class is overpowered.</DIV> <DIV>------------------------------</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This just isn't true.  On a couple of class boards, the biggest issue is the class hat.  On a couple of other boards, the biggest issue is the class dress.  On one board, the newest thread is about how that class should be nerfed.  Feel free the check out all the class boards.</DIV>

[Slotor]

<P>(edit) yes!</P><p>Message Edited by Slotor on <span class=date_text>01-29-2007</span> <span class=time_text>02:16 PM</span>

[Mjolin]

wow thats a bunch of hearty endorsements lol<div></div>

[Meskin]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> mauserton wrote:<BR> <DIV>Yes, there are challenges, but if you read most of the class boards you will see that every class thinks that their class is the one getting left behind and every other class is overpowered.</DIV> <DIV>------------------------------</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This just isn't true.  On a couple of class boards, the biggest issue is the class hat.  On a couple of other boards, the biggest issue is the class dress.  On one board, the newest thread is about how that class should be nerfed.  Feel free the check out all the class boards.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Haha!  Yeah, if you look on the boads at this moment you are probably right.  I have RSS feeds subscribed to the Pally, Wizard, Troub, Ranger, Fury and Inquistor boards, so I see the messages posted every day.  Trust me each board people complain about how X class gets no love or "why does so and so class get this but we don't" or "they really nerfed us" or "they need to nerf so and so class to help us" </DIV> <DIV>Of course the 4 new class hats just came out, so those are hot topics atm on those 4 boards.  Follow the forums for a couple weeks though, you will see what I mean.  I have only been following them for about 8 months, so I could be wrong though.</DIV> <DIV>What I am trying to say is that every class in this game is a viable, fun class.  You just have to play it right (eg Rangers need more money at higher levels because of the ridiculous amount of arrows you go through or Troubs have to group more to become really effective).  <BR>There are Negative Nancy's on every board, but there are 10 times as many positive people.  Troubs are a fun class, go for it!</DIV>

[boosted]

If you played a bard in eq1, like myself, then expect a troub or dirge to be nothing like in eq1.  I rolled a bard as my first character hoping to have a modified version of an eq1 bard.  I stopped playing him and rolled a conjuror because it felt nothing like a bard to me.  They do have some good group buffs, but the diversity just isn't there like eq1.  You won't be leading your group, pulling and mezzing, sensing traps and everything you got used to on eq1, you are more of a background buffer here.  Just research the class and if it still sounds appealing, than go for it, just be wary if you think it will be like eq1's bard.

[ForgottenFoundling]

<P>Some people like them, others don't.</P> <P>I've been playing my troub for over 2 years.  We've gone through a TON of changes and that has put many people off.  </P> <P>I'm fully mastered, mostly fabled (I don't wear an item because it says fabled, but instead for the effects/role that it plays in my style) and I do well compared to some and poor compared to others.  By and large though, I am not representative of the vast majority of troubadors and based on my gear/experience/etc I think we should be definitely boosted.  For those that are not as well equipped as I am, I feel they're vastly underpowered and do not compare in the endgame to other classes.</P> <P>Troubs do not scale well in the later levels.  We have to be tricky to get the job done soloing.  Much of our utility goes to waste in groups (pvp excluded).  We're prized for a few spells in raids.  </P> <P>My troub interests me enough to raid with and quest a bit (gotta get more AAs for the marginal benefit they bring past 75 points), but not much more than that.  I don't have the patience to play another toon to level cap, so I stick with the troub until I decide to quit all together.</P> <P> </P>

[Landiin]

Here is the way I see the Troub class; I had fun playing it low to upper middle levels, I'll even go so far as I loved it. after about 55 I think I REALLY started seeing the disadvantages of playing a troub. At this point there are starting be a class out there that can "just about" do every thing you can and more. When I hit 60ish I started getting random tells from raiding guilds to ask if I wanted to join them. Coming from a raiding background, I was shocked. What raiding guild would just ask someone to join with out knowing their skill level. Well I know now, because it doesn't take a lot of skill to play a bard as it is designed ATM in EQ2. Now it does take a skilled bard to maximize DPS and all the other good things. But to do what the bard in EQ2 is designed for ATM all you really have to do is stand around with your buffs on.

[Pogopuschel]

<blockquote><hr>Landiin wrote:Well I know now, because it doesn't take a lot of skill to play a bard as it is designed ATM in EQ2. Now it does take a skilled bard to maximize DPS and all the other good things. But to do what the bard in EQ2 is designed for ATM all you really have to do is stand around with your buffs on.<hr></blockquote>That, exactly that is the main and valid complaint about the class. Unless you have exactly the right gear and maybe group members' buffs,it won't make much of a change to the success of a raid whether you press buttons like crazy or you just stand in the corner, sadly.LU32? Hope dies last! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Jeger_Wulf]

<P>> Yes, there are challenges, but if you read most of the class boards you <BR>> will see that every class thinks that their class is the one getting left behind <BR>> and every other class is overpowered.</P> <P>I agree with mauserton that this is not true. I spend a lot of time on warlock, templar, wizard, and necro boards and none of them think every other class is over-powered, or that they are weak. Troubadours and Dirges have valid complaints.</P>