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Tug
01-22-2007, 12:17 AM
<DIV>ok....my standard raid group is Me,Fury,Conj,Ilusin,Wiz,Necro......</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>looking for the best combination of songs for this group...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I currently use Bria's,Aria,Alin's....those are a standard in any raid...but the last two are realy up for dibate</DIV> <DIV>Dove song.....</DIV> <DIV>Requiem of reflection.....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks for you input</DIV><p>Message Edited by Tugen on <span class=date_text>01-21-2007</span> <span class=time_text>11:20 AM</span>

ForgottenFoundling
01-22-2007, 01:55 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tugen wrote:<BR> <DIV>ok....my standard raid group is Me,Fury,Conj,Ilusin,Wiz,Necro......</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>looking for the best combination of songs for this group...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I currently use Bria's,Aria,Alin's....those are a standard in any raid...but the last two are realy up for dibate</DIV> <DIV>Dove song.....</DIV> <DIV>Requiem of reflection.....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks for you input</DIV> <P>Message Edited by Tugen on <SPAN class=date_text>01-21-2007</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>11:20 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>For your setup, I'd use raxxyl's (sta for hp) and dove song or daeli's depending on whether you're a dps troub.  Maybe haste if your pet classes use their scout pets most.  I don't really have a problem hitting most mobs with my spells though, so dove song may be a waste for you.

VericSauvari
01-22-2007, 02:01 AM
<P>double post.</P><p>Message Edited by VericSauvari on <span class=date_text>01-21-2007</span> <span class=time_text>04:04 PM</span>

VericSauvari
01-22-2007, 02:04 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tugen wrote:<BR> <DIV>ok....my standard raid group is Me,Fury,Conj,Ilusin,Wiz,Necro......</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>looking for the best combination of songs for this group...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I currently use Bria's,Aria,Alin's....those are a standard in any raid...but the last two are realy up for dibate</DIV> <DIV>Dove song.....</DIV> <DIV>Requiem of reflection.....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks for you input</DIV> <P>Message Edited by Tugen on <SPAN class=date_text>01-21-2007</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>11:20 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>i would put up....</P> <P>-alins(obvious), Dove song/Opus(see below), raxxyl(str/sta for you, pets and sta for group), daelis(personal dps),  aria(obvious)</P> <P>-i'd swap out for daelis or raxxyl for requiem for only two raid mobs so far (Prince T in EH and Crab in FD) Both of those mobs tap you twice for magic the second being a mana drain. requiem has a very high chance at going off in those fights multiple times and saving you some drained mana and not make you regret spending plat on the master or the rare <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>- odds are the illusionist is already running mana song and very few fights really need both illusionist and a bard regen. Hence why i suggest either dove song (<EM>still don't see much difference with this up or not..but some will swear by it</EM>) or put up opus for yourself and the pets.</P> <P> </P>

ReturnOfMadness
01-22-2007, 02:21 AM
Requiem of reflection is just useless procs way to few times to make up for the conc slot, i would just replace it with our selfbuff and drop that with a resists buffs<div></div>

Mildavyn
01-22-2007, 11:13 AM
Drop requeim for raids. if the mobs are mana-tapping, use arcane resist song, with AAs it blocks mana drain.My usual raid group: me, fury, wiz, warlock, warlock, swash/rangerMy normal raid set-up:AriaRaxxylBriaOpusAlin'sI'm not there for personal DPS, im there to make the others in my group do more damage, with me there, they easily add 300 DPS each. thats 1500 DPS added by me, and thats without ever swinging my sword.<div></div>

Rikini
01-23-2007, 11:45 PM
<P>For me:</P> <P>RAID:</P> <P>Harbinger's Sonnet<BR>Allegro<BR>Don't Kill the Messenger<BR>Bria's Inspiring Ballad<BR>Alin's Serene Serenade<BR>Aria of Acclamation<BR>Dove Song<BR>Raxxyl's Brazen Descant/Swapped out for Resists as needed</P> <P>My job in our RAID is to play:</P> <P>Precision of the Maestro (at 5 seconds & every refresh), followed by<BR>- Perfect Shrill<BR>- Alin's Incandescent Concord<BR>- Eli's Thunderous Drumming<BR>Jester's Cap (round robin to group continually)<BR>Demoralizing Processional (every refresh)<BR><BR>and I use my two bow powers and stay ranged, for the most part. Of course all is subject to change on a whim, if I end up with a differing setup, which is usually me, a healer, and 4 wiggly fingers.</P> <P> </P> <P>Solo:</P> <P>Harbinger's Sonnet<BR>Allegro<BR>Don't Kill the Messenger<BR>Bria's Inspiring Ballad<BR>Daelis' Frolicking of Blades<BR>Raxxyl's Brazen Descant<BR>Rousing Opus<BR>Quiron's Blissful Celebration</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>All of the above are at least at Master I and I spell them out for those who might be learning the ropes still.</P>

VericSauvari
01-24-2007, 02:30 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Mildavyn wrote:<BR>Drop requeim for raids. if the mobs are mana-tapping, use arcane resist song, with AAs it blocks mana drain.<BR>My usual raid group: me, fury, wiz, warlock, warlock, swash/ranger<BR><BR>My normal raid set-up:<BR>Aria<BR>Raxxyl<BR>Bria<BR>Opus<BR>Alin's<BR><BR>I'm not there for personal DPS, im there to make the others in my group do more damage, with me there, they easily add 300 DPS each. thats 1500 DPS added by me, and thats without ever swinging my sword.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>resists are pretty borked right now and i won't spend AA's into resist songs again (don't plan on going for the +5 range AA either). RoR goes off enough in those two raids i mentioned to be useful imo.<BR>

Mildavyn
01-25-2007, 02:55 PM
<DIV>I dont play the song for the resists, i play it to absorb any kind of mana drain. This spell is HUGE for some raid fights, and also makes fighting Coercers in PvP a joke.</DIV>

ReturnOfMadness
01-25-2007, 02:59 PM
<DIV>Just wondering, why ya didnt get the +range aa (to an above poster) the first aa line is well plain crap (love slow but not worth the aa points getting there), thse second line is a must i guess when played decently but whutabout the third? it better as the fourth?</DIV>

VericSauvari
01-26-2007, 01:35 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ReturnOfMadness wrote:<BR> <DIV>Just wondering, why ya didnt get the +range aa (to an above poster) the first aa line is well plain crap (love slow but not worth the aa points getting there), thse second line is a must i guess when played decently but whutabout the third? it better as the fourth?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>well from what i have seen a lot of the raid zones just do not work well with +5 range. due to line of sight issues and you just cannot get maxrange+5 in most indoor zones. I have not really looked up details on avatars so i do not know if they have AE's or range restrictions on them. Yes i know it will help some of the shorter ranged spells by +5range however grand scheme of things for that extra 1 or 2 spells with small range bonus is not worth it for me.</P> <P> </P> <P>that and im getting tired of sacrificing my AA points purely for the benfit of something I will see very little gain from..its ME time <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P> </P>