EOF Fabled Set

[Cynnigig]

<DIV>Just saw 3 pieces of this armor on the Xanadu website and I almost went into shock. No int on any of these pieces. Set bonus for 7 items is an increase for Dove Song. Unbelievable.</DIV>

[missing_peace]

Dove song?  For the full set?  That's just downright insulting.

[VericSauvari]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cynnigig wrote:<BR> <DIV>Just saw 3 pieces of this armor on the Xanadu website and I almost went into shock. No int on any of these pieces. Set bonus for 7 items is an increase for Dove Song. Unbelievable.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>the vhalens stuff (legendary?) does have +28str/+28int on some gear, +28str/+28agi on other pieces and probably +28agi/+28int on others.</P> <P>i assume a full set of the fabled EoF gear is similar..mix and match of +stats...dove song makes sense now with resisted spells.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>-edit-</P> <P>ok i AM insulted by the +60 damage to Tempo....</P><p>Message Edited by VericSauvari on <span class=date_text>11-26-2006</span> <span class=time_text>07:50 PM</span>

[Narben Von Nacht]

There were loud complaints when the coif dropped in beta. The lack of INT, the Clara's bonus and originally the Dove Song increase was the (5) item bonus and the (7) item was a 3% bonus to dps IIRC. The missing INT wasn't a huge concern at the time since we didn't know what the other items had as stats. Now we should be very concerned<div></div>

[Antipalad]

Shows once again that the people designing the game and the loot neither knows or cares about how the bard classes actually work.Red flags were raised at Zanders boost AA, EoF Troubador armor just confirmed my beliefs.

[vladsamier]

don't know about you guys, but i /feedback'ed it. going to do it every day until something changes.... also it makes me sick comparing the dirge set bonus to ours... for 3 or 5 (forget which) pieces they can reduce the recast of cacophany of blades by 25seconds... what do we get? oh yeah claras damage upgrade, +10 to dove song, and a small dps modifier yay!!!! also blows that they do not have any intelegence on the set items... if the set happens to drop im only going to spend my dkp on it for the discovery and in hopes that someone smacks the item developer across the face and knocks some sense into them. . . . . . . .

[JackMcGurck]

<P> </P> <P><A href="http://eq2.xanadu-community.com/eq2_loot.php?BrowseNPC=1&exp_id=7&pack_id=19&zone_id=77&target_id=238" target=_blank>http://eq2.xanadu-community.com/eq2_loot.php?BrowseNPC=1&exp_id=7&pack_id=19&zone_id=77&target_id=238</A></P> <P> </P> <P>The new Armorset is almost good but somethings missing <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  INT ?!?!?</P>

[thorvang]

+60 dmg to clara's- errm, ok. more damage is good, but why clara's? and why only 60 dmg?+6% spell crit- seems nice. but with no int on the set (maybe the other 4 items?) it is rather pointless. the other 4 items need to balance out the complete lack of int on the already known 3 items. i don't think they'll have int in the 40ies.+10 to dove song- ... might benefit some nukers, don't know. questionable bonus.so in conclusion: this set is worthless.

[Rampagious]

<div><blockquote><hr>thorvang wrote:i don't think they'll have int in the 40ies.<hr></blockquote><a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/items/item_profile.vm?itemId=149251" target=_blank>Mantle of Fascination</a></div>

[Strums]

Dose anyone know where these drop yet?  I have seen one treasured lore "tradable" leather chest piece drop off a random named in LP that was part of a set for furys / wardens.  But being these fabled, im guessing they are from some 4x mobs in EOF?

[Tri]

We'll see how the stats are spread on the pieces. The skill increase could be usefull given the new mechanics But Clara's needs to be changed, at least make the set equal to the dirge set ( ideas could be a bonus to jester's reuse, or better, an increased duration, same with maestro ) i understand how a boost in clara's damage is usefull in order to compensate for the 2 seconds needed to stealth yourself only to get that backstab in, but a 5% in it's damage is nowhere near what would be gained via a shorter cast timer for stealth. And bard stealth needs to be changed ... still waiting... <span>:smileywink:</span> <div></div>

[Snublefot]

<DIV>With those stats its not worth it. Maybe getting 3 on for the damage boost to Clara, but the crit boost will be marginal compared to the damage boosts on relic armor. The armor seem to have more then decent resists tough, so I guess it will seep into most raiding troubs inventories. But as a full set used as primary gear? We'll have to see how much the combined stats adds to. The dove boost is ... not making sense.</DIV>

[VericSauvari]

<div><blockquote><hr>Zandwarf wrote:<div></div>Dose anyone know where these drop yet?  I have seen one treasured lore "tradable" leather chest piece drop off a random named in LP that was part of a set for furys / wardens.  But being these fabled, im guessing they are from some 4x mobs in EOF?<hr></blockquote>the legendary can drop in any instance (or non-instance probably)the fabled gear drops in raid zones, so far i have only seen it drop in EH, i think thats where ramp got his as well</div>

[thorvang]

<blockquote><hr>Rampagious wrote:<div><blockquote><hr>thorvang wrote:i don't think they'll have int in the 40ies.<hr></blockquote><a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/items/item_profile.vm?itemId=149251" target=_blank>Mantle of Fascination</a></div><hr></blockquote>care to post the stats? all i see is "get a subscription now!" ^^

[Killerbee3000]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>thorvang wrote:<blockquote><hr>Rampagious wrote:<div><blockquote><hr>thorvang wrote:i don't think they'll have int in the 40ies.<hr></blockquote><a target="_blank" href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/items/item_profile.vm?itemId=149251">Mantle of Fascination</a></div><hr></blockquote>care to post the stats? all i see is "get a subscription now!" ^^<hr></blockquote><span class="itemTitle">Mantle of Fascination</span><img src="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/images/Icons/icon_item_3074.jpg"><font color="#ffff00">First Discovered By:</font><span class="fieldValue">Rampagious </span><span class="fieldValue">Dissolution</span><span class="fieldValue">Nektulos</span><span class="fieldValue">November 27, 2006</span><!-- DEBUG item p sub: true item p log: true --><span class="fieldValue">FABLED</span><span><font color="#eaea88"><strong><strong>Lore   No Trade   </strong></strong></font></span><strong></strong><span><font color="green"><strong>+32</strong></font></span>   <span><font color="green"><strong>Strength</strong></font></span><span><font color="green"><strong>+25</strong></font></span>   <span><font color="green"><strong>Agility</strong></font></span><span><font color="green"><strong>+38</strong></font></span>   <span><font color="green"><strong>Intelligence</strong></font></span><span><font color="green"><strong>+155</strong></font></span>   <span><font color="green"><strong>mana</strong></font></span><span><font color="green"><strong>+150</strong></font></span>   <span><font color="green"><strong>health</strong></font></span><span><font color="green"><strong>+962</strong></font></span>   <span><font color="green"><strong>vs disease</strong></font></span><span><font color="green"><strong>+962</strong></font></span>   <span><font color="green"><strong>vs heat</strong></font></span><span><font color="green"><strong>+962</strong></font></span>   <span><font color="green"><strong>vs poison</strong></font></span><span class="fieldStat">Chain Armor</span><span class="fieldValue">(Shoulders)</span><span class="fieldStat">Mitigation:</span>   <span class="fieldValue">365 </span><span class="fieldStat">Weight</span>   <span class="fieldValue">3.0</span><span class="fieldStat">Level</span>   <span class="fieldValue">70</span><span class="fieldValue"><strong>Troubador</strong></span></div>

[LexxerCoV]

Worthless bonuses and to add insult to injury its pink and yellow.

[Killerbee3000]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>LexxerCoV wrote:<div></div>Worthless bonuses and to add insult to injury its pink and yellow.<hr></blockquote>pink and yellow???????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????edited to remove insult agaisnt devs......</div><p>Message Edited by Killerbee3000 on <span class=date_text>12-04-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:09 PM</span>

[Rampagious]

<DIV>Oh stop its not pink and yellow.  Its like yellow(peachish maybe) and a light orange and then it has black in it.  Like I said, with a full set its gonna look like we are in sand camo <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Kyriel]

<DIV>The troub armor, im so jealous, i'd totally love to wear it. It's BEAUTIFUL !</DIV>

[JackMcGurck]

NEED Ingame Pictures <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Kyriel]

<DIV>ask lexxer to post a pic, he's so hot in this Peach :smileytongue:</DIV>

[Emerix]

<P>The dirges get the recast time of CoB reduced by 25 seconds when they have 3 pieces of their set .</P> <P>Their PoM gets this insane bonus . So not only that they can auto attack and move while using it . with some armor pieces they can use it [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] often too .</P> <P>Talk about f***ed up .</P> <P> </P> <P><A href="http://eq2.xanadu-community.com/images/loot/1340.jpg" target=_blank>http://eq2.xanadu-community.com/images/loot/1340.jpg</A></P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[Cynnigig]

<P>Just as a comparison, here are the stats from our legendary set:</P> <P>Head - +28str, +28int<BR>Chest - +28sta, +28agi<BR>Shoulders - +28sta, +28int<BR>Forearms - +28str, +28int<BR>Hands - +28str, +28agi<BR>Legs - +28str, +28sta<BR>Boots - +28str, +28agi</P> <P>total: +140str, +84sta, +84agi, +84int</P> <P>Set bonus for 3: melee and ranged crit chance +2%</P> <P>Set bonus for 6: Increases the damage of the bard's disease, mental and magic attacks by 50.</P>

[Antipalad]

In conclusion, give the person who made the Vhalen's set a raise, and fire the one in charge of the fabled set. Or if this was same person, may I suggest drug councelling.

[Mildavyn]

<DIV>Suggested change for the Fabled set for troubadors:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Set bonus for 3 peices: The Dove Song bonus +10</DIV> <DIV>Set bonus for 5 peices: 6% spell crits</DIV> <DIV>Set bonus for 7 peices: reduce recast on Precision of the Maestro by 25 seconds. (its only fair, the dirges get this on their Cacophony of Blades for a mere 3 peices.)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also more INT.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My personal importance on stats, from most important to least important: INT, STA, STR, AGI, WIS</DIV>

[Rampagious]

<P><IMG src="http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o264/piecH1337/EQ2_000003.jpg"></P> <P>If you can't read the stats its 34 str 15 sta 10 agi 34 int 170hp/pow 703 vs cold 962 vs mental/divine - Focus: Aria of Acclamation, increases trigger chance by 7%</P><p>Message Edited by Rampagious on <span class=date_text>01-03-2007</span> <span class=time_text>10:29 AM</span>

[samejima]

i demand 5p for being in your picture, also i will change my last name back to taro'joavao.<div></div>

[VericSauvari]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Rampagious wrote:<div></div> <div></div> <p></p> <p>If you can't read the stats its 34 str 15 sta 10 agi 34 int 170hp/pow 703 vs cold 962 vs mental/divine - Focus: Aria of Acclamation, increases trigger chance by 7%</p><p>Message Edited by Rampagious on <span class="date_text">01-03-2007</span> <span class="time_text">10:29 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>erm..that effect trigger is hawt-edit-i must say im a bit suprised that its not +10 defence in balletic avoidance or +15% chance at bellow to knockdown </div><p>Message Edited by VericSauvari on <span class=date_text>01-03-2007</span> <span class=time_text>02:51 PM</span>

[vladsamier]

<DIV>at least the effect on the bp is nice... i was drooling over it last night <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>but the graphic on the armor still looks horrid =/</DIV>

[Ballads]

<div><blockquote><hr>vladsamier wrote:<div></div> <div>at least the effect on the bp is nice... i was drooling over it last night <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div> <div> </div> <div>but the graphic on the armor still looks horrid =/</div><hr></blockquote> Well i must say im glad they finally figured out the buffs we use and started making mods for them but only wish it was a strait +100 to it instead of the7%. Pre eof AA's when my % was stuck at 30 it woulda been better then now that we have an upgrade aa based.   For this example i used 500 as the base damage form dissonate note At 30% a 7% increase would equal out to a 120 dmg increase to Aria's or 24% At 45% a 7% increase would eqaul out to 77 dmg increase to Aria's or 16% It woulda been alot nicer if they woulda stuck to there normal formula and just put +100 to aria's that way wHether we took that AA path or not we recive the same increase.</div>

[Mildavyn]

<DIV>Heh, find me a troubador who DOESNT have the Aria AA... i dare ya.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The PvP gear is Hawt! I'd post a screenshot, but i dont know how <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>EDIT: can't link it, so i'll just type it out:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jester's Set bonuses:</DIV> <DIV>(3) Applies Empowered Swings.</DIV> <DIV>        Increases Damage Per Second of caster by 4.0</DIV> <DIV>(5) Applies Stun VI</DIV> <DIV>        On a successful attack this spell has a chance to cast Stun VI on target of attack. Lasts for 3.0 seconds. This effect will trigger an average of 1.2 times per minute. If a melee attack is used, only the primary weapon can trigger this effect.</DIV> <DIV>                Stuns target</DIV> <DIV>                Does not affect Epic targets</DIV> <DIV>                Resistability increases against targets higher than level 90.</DIV> <DIV>(7) Applies Focus: Aria of Acclamation.</DIV> <DIV>        Increases damage of Aria of Acclamation by 60.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jester's Boots</DIV> <DIV>+28 STR, +18 STA, +16 AGI, +16 WIS</DIV> <DIV>+135 health, +135 power</DIV> <DIV>+876 vs heat, +876 vs cold</DIV> <DIV>Mitigation: 342</DIV> <DIV>Effect: Haste (30%)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jester's Leggings</DIV> <DIV>+30 STR, +28 AGI, +18 INT</DIV> <DIV>+135 health, +140 power</DIV> <DIV>+876 vs mental, +876 vs disease</DIV> <DIV>Mitigation: 385</DIV> <DIV>Effect: Focus: Perfect Shrill (increase dmg by 200)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jester's Coat</DIV> <DIV>+32 STR, +12 STA, +12 AGI, +28 INT</DIV> <DIV>+145 health, +140 power</DIV> <DIV>+876 vs cold, +876 vs magic</DIV> <DIV>Mitigation: 385</DIV> <DIV>Effect: Focus: Steal Essence (increase dmg by 120)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jester's Coif</DIV> <DIV>+26 STR, +26 AGI</DIV> <DIV>+120 health, +125 power</DIV> <DIV>+474 vs heat, +474 vs cold, +474 vs magic, +474 vs disease, +474 vs poison</DIV> <DIV>Mitigation: 342</DIV> <DIV>Effect: Stun IV (3 second stun, 1.2 times per minute)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jester's Mantle</DIV> <DIV>+26 STA, +26 AGI, +24 WIS</DIV> <DIV>+130 health, +135 power</DIV> <DIV>+876 vs divine, +876 vs disease</DIV> <DIV>Mitigation: 342</DIV> <DIV>Effect: Strike of Force IX (increase dmg of CAs by 45)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jester's Bracers</DIV> <DIV>+26 STR, +16 STA, +16 AGI, +22 INT</DIV> <DIV>+145 health, +145 power</DIV> <DIV>+876 vs heat, +876 vs poison</DIV> <DIV>Mitigation: 342</DIV> <DIV>Effect: Jester's Retort (7% chance to proc 478 mental damage when hit)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jester's Gloves</DIV> <DIV>+26 STR, +24 STA, +28 AGI</DIV> <DIV>+145 health, +135 power</DIV> <DIV>+876 vs mental, +876 vs divine</DIV> <DIV>Mitigation: 342</DIV> <DIV>Effect: Critical Hit Boost (increase melee crit chance by 2.0%)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>All items are Fabled, this is the Qeynos set, Freeport's may be different. (doubt it)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>TOTAL INT on the whole set: 68.</DIV> <P>Message Edited by Mildavyn on <SPAN class=date_text>01-06-2007</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>07:47 AM</SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN>  <P><SPAN class=time_text>EDIT2: The effect on the wrist is a damage sheild, not a proc.</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Mildavyn on <span class=date_text>01-06-2007</span> <span class=time_text>07:50 AM</span>

[Narben Von Nacht]

Is anyone else sick of how PvP seems to get all the love?I can understand how raiding is more difficult if you're in a non exiled guild, but when they compensate by giving players armour with extremely useful procs on every single piece it drives me nuts.[Removed for Content] can't we see effects like that on the PvE servers?<div></div>

[Rampagious]

<DIV>Because it would be too overpowered for PvE gear to have effects!  Seriously, [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] <-- that says [Removed for Content] you r-tarded [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] forums mods who are going to lock this for being a whine post because you have absolutely nothing else better to do besides lock threads that help the game.  As I was saying, seriously [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] this game I am so sick and tired of it.  For how long are you going to purposely destory any and all form of high end raiding.  Every expansion STARTS OFF being catered for the most part to the good guilds.  Then everysingle time it gets nerfed down, or changed, or something to entirely ruin it just so the people who play the game for two hours can be happy.  Seriously [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] that.  This game has become a complete and utter waste of time and I absolutely can not wait until I find something more worthwhile to do with my time so I can get the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] off this terrible game.  I have never experienced such a poorly done project in my entire life.  </DIV>

[Kilnger]

In the defense of PVP, it's not exactly easy to get all of the gear short of hardcore farming and/or constant PVPing. The biggest difference between the two is that one is assured and free, while the other one costs cash (minimal) and status (minimal again). <div></div>

[ForgottenFoundling]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kilnger wrote:<BR>In the defense of PVP, it's not exactly easy to get all of the gear short of hardcore farming and/or constant PVPing. The biggest difference between the two is that one is assured and free, while the other one costs cash (minimal) and status (minimal again). <BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>And a PVE raider doesn't spend just as much time raiding mobs over and over again for unassured drops???</P> <P>I don't understand why PVP rewards are so [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] good.  It discourages the hell out of me honestly.</P>

[Mildavyn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ForgottenFoundling wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kilnger wrote:<BR>In the defense of PVP, it's not exactly easy to get all of the gear short of hardcore farming and/or constant PVPing. The biggest difference between the two is that one is assured and free, while the other one costs cash (minimal) and status (minimal again). <BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>And a PVE raider doesn't spend just as much time raiding mobs over and over again for unassured drops???</P> <P>I don't understand why PVP rewards are so [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] good.  It discourages the hell out of me honestly.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>The PvP rewards are extremely hard to get. It is (seriously) alot easier to get raid gear. I beleive to get a whole set you need something like 1500 PvP tokens. Which occasionally drop from PvP kills. (can drop from 0 to 3 tokens per kill) Sounds easy right? Nope. Especially not as a bad. For most pvp you will be grouped. lets say you're only running a 4-man group, well now you need 6000 tokens. Your chances of getting ANY tokens aren't that great, unless you run solo...</P> <P>I'd rather spend 8-10 hours raiding Labs/Lyceum and get some good drops in there. Sure they aren't quite as good, but its a hell of a lot easier to get<BR></P>

[Rampagious]

<DIV>8-10 hours?  Try that being 2 nights of raiding.  I just raided from 5:45PM-4AM Friday.  Apparently you think all raid guilds are like casuals.  I'd also like to add that you already have a full set, along with other people I am sure.  I'd have to say that I am pretty sure no one has even over 4 on PvE servers. (I'm not even sure if someone has 4 but I am sure its possible, most I've heard of is 3)  Yeah...PvP gear is a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]LOAD easier to get.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Rampagious on <span class=date_text>01-07-2007</span> <span class=time_text>08:12 AM</span>

[Kilnger]

If someone hardcore farmed, picked on weaklings, and just generally spent all their time daily going for tokens, it would probably take upwards of two to three weeks to a month of hardcore grinding. At the moment, I only have one piece (boots) and I do not grind daily for the set gear, mainly because I do not have the time. Also realize that if you solo grind, the difficulty goes up as we are not a solo class (time spent goes down). This is on top of the raiding I try to do for EoF and KoS stuff.Grass is greener on the other side. Always has been and always will be. Unless you did nothing but prey and stalk for days and days you would get it at the same rate as raiding, if not only marginally faster.<div></div>

[Rampagious]

<DIV>So if someone plays as much as a hardcore raider they can get a fullset in the time it takes a hardcore raider to get maybe 3.  That seems fair.</DIV>

[Kilnger]

I highly doubt it's that bad, but it is guaranteed which is the difference.<div></div>

[Rampagious]

<DIV>Your high doubts are incredibly wrong.</DIV>

[ForgottenFoundling]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kilnger wrote:<BR>If someone hardcore farmed, picked on weaklings, and just generally spent all their time daily going for tokens, it would probably take upwards of two to three weeks to a month of hardcore grinding. At the moment, I only have one piece (boots) and I do not grind daily for the set gear, mainly because I do not have the time. Also realize that if you solo grind, the difficulty goes up as we are not a solo class (time spent goes down). This is on top of the raiding I try to do for EoF and KoS stuff.<BR><BR>Grass is greener on the other side. Always has been and always will be. Unless you did nothing but prey and stalk for days and days you would get it at the same rate as raiding, if not only marginally faster.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Even if your scenario panned out, you are still the master of your own destiny.  Raiding is something else entirely.  You are bound by lockout timers, 23 other peoples schedule, their desires for gear, need to learn strats, dkp limits/accumulation, etc.  Even if you're "hardcore", you can't be rewarded at the rate of the PVP rewards.</P> <P>Rampagious is in the best (arguably) raiding guild in the game.  He's one of the primary, if not THE primary bard in his guild and he still does not have a full set of Troubador only gear (which is significantly worse than your pvp rewards).  It's not only the time it takes to get "some" fabled, it's the time it takes to get the BEST fabled.  And there just isn't a possibility for raids to pay off as quickly as PVP would.</P> <P>PVP token gear surpasses the hell out of raiding loot and is easier to get. PERIOD</P> <P>If that weren't bad enough, you still have access to the same loot that we do on PVE via raids (with potentially better starting gear as well).</P>

[Narben Von Nacht]

Unless they change PvP so when you hand in your tokens they randomly assign you a piece of gear there's no comparison to PvE. There are currently people with 3-4 pieces of the fabled armour, and it's sheer dumb luck that they even have that much. A person could raid for the next 6 months and never see a single item drop for their class. Guaranteed PvP fabled is bull<div></div>

[Mildavyn]

<DIV>Just for the record, i have 0 (zero) peice of that PvP gear, and i dont expect to get any very soon. On my server (Venekor) over half of freeport has betrayed to Qeynos, so i have VERY few targets. Of those targets, the majority are brigands or healers, the first of which is almost impossible for me to kill solo, and healers are difficult to impossible as well.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also, tonight, i killed a 70 guardian 1v1, i got NOTHING for killing him, no status, no faction, no fame, NO TOKEN. Didnt even get him onto my /recent list. Also, the most i've seen anyone have is 4 peices of the PvP stuff, so its about even no?</DIV>

[ForgottenFoundling]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Mildavyn wrote:<BR> <DIV>Just for the record, i have 0 (zero) peice of that PvP gear, and i dont expect to get any very soon. On my server (Venekor) over half of freeport has betrayed to Qeynos, so i have VERY few targets. Of those targets, the majority are brigands or healers, the first of which is almost impossible for me to kill solo, and healers are difficult to impossible as well.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also, tonight, i killed a 70 guardian 1v1, i got NOTHING for killing him, no status, no faction, no fame, NO TOKEN. Didnt even get him onto my /recent list. Also, the most i've seen anyone have is 4 peices of the PvP stuff, so its about even no?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Nope, pvp stuff still blows the hell out of raid dropped fabled.

[Jait]

<DIV>PvP has different rules kiddies.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You can only obtain and wear the armor if you belong to a faction.  If you belong to a faction you cannot group with anyone from the opposing faction nor the specific good/evil classes.   Because of this, PvP armor receives quite a bit bigger boost than normal Tiered Fabled to make up for the gimped setup.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Exiles get nothing, because they have the same benefits as a PvE server.  You can always come roll on a PvP server if you want the "overpowered" armor.  And I wish you luck =p</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jait T'vyl</DIV> <DIV>70 Troubadour Venekor</DIV> <DIV>Den of Madness</DIV>

[Emerix]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Rampagious wrote:<BR> <P><IMG src="http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o264/piecH1337/EQ2_000003.jpg"></P> <P>If you can't read the stats its 34 str 15 sta 10 agi 34 int 170hp/pow 703 vs cold 962 vs mental/divine - Focus: Aria of Acclamation, increases trigger chance by 7%</P> <P>Message Edited by Rampagious on <SPAN class=date_text>01-03-2007</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>10:29 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Would you be so kind and get some female illu to cast a female illusion on you ? would love to see how this top looks on female toons =)

[Crombie]

<DIV>I found a pair of the gloves a couple days ago in Emerald Halls... can't really see myself wearing them at all except if i happened to need resists ~ (considering they have no int and very minute differences from Nightchord even when comparing the change in stats / damage)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>irks me somewhat that our fabled class set has peices and bonuses that are undesired ([Removed for Content] 60+ dmg on our stealth attack? since when did we care about our stealth attack ~ We are utility!)  ~ Would think it would be our end all stuff all of the class would wish to get someday...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>feel free to post your thoughts!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c78/Bink6000/GlovesF.jpg"><IMG src="http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c78/Bink6000/GlovesN.jpg"></DIV><p>Message Edited by Crombie on <span class=date_text>01-22-2007</span> <span class=time_text>01:33 PM</span>

[Rampagious]

<DIV>Sadly, Ill prob just end up wearing those for the +5 pierce, /shrug =</DIV>

[Crombie]

Lol blasted Rampagious and his + peircing items/weps

[Crombie]

<P>From what I've seen ~ our class set drops off the same mobs as the dirges and they drop off of certain mobs</P> <P>here is a list of what i have so far</P> <P><A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/items/item_profile.vm?itemId=149084" target=_blank>Hat </A>= Tactician's Armor (MMIS)</P> <P><A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/items/item_profile.vm?itemId=150388" target=_blank>Chest </A>= Mayong = (MMIS)</P> <P><A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/items/item_profile.vm?itemId=149251" target=_blank>Arms </A>= The Tender (EH)</P> <P><A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/items/item_profile.vm?itemId=148399" target=_blank>Bracers </A>= Othysis Muravian (Freethinkers)</P> <P>Legs = Woushi (EH)</P> <P><A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/items/item_profile.vm?itemId=150578" target=_blank>Gloves </A>= Gardener Thirgen** (EH)</P> <P><A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/items/item_profile.vm?itemId=150443" target=_blank>Boots</A> = Gardener Thirgen??** (unsure about this one)</P> <P>** have heard it can also drop from Sariah the Bloomseeker (EH)<BR></P> <P> </P> <P>if anyone finds these off other mobs please feel free to post!!</P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P> <P><SPAN class=time_text>Edit: added item links</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Crombie on <span class=date_text>01-22-2007</span> <span class=time_text>03:49 PM</span>

[chorpie]

<p><a href="mailto:Bink@Butcherblock" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Bink@Butcherblock</a> wrote: </p><blockquote>[Removed for Content] 60+ dmg on our stealth attack? since when did we care about our stealth attack ~ We are utility!)</blockquote><p>Clara's has an INT debuff in addition to damage.... or was that sarcasm? i'll gladly take any pluses to dmg output <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>