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AkuSokuZan

11-22-2006, 03:14 PM

For pvp purposes Troubadour is by far the most worthless class solo in the game, but for even not pvp purpose? The great nerfs of EoF seems to have a benefit in it for everyone, but wheres troubs benefit? Treasured leather wearers unbuffed now have more Mitigation then my fully fabled Troubadour, Casters got there skills increased for spells 4k ice novas are a blast when you just get resist resist resist as a trouby in pvp <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. the lovely two click classes such as brigands/rangers/assassins still have there godlike ability, Healers are nearly invincible w/ the changes and tanks are tanks just as they always been. So where does the troubadour turn? I'm not quite sure anymore what exactly my classes purpose is. Dirges seem to have it easy in pvp w/ there Fear, Life taps, root ability, and lets not forget to mention there haste/interupt ancient ability enabling them to kill healers were troubadours are left dumbfounded. Are so great mez is no more greater then a Swashys and are charm is near pathetic tho can server a small purpose once in a while after the 10x resist attempts. Runs speed is glorious as you watch druids sprint twice as fast as you.....I am sorry i would like more then being a buff bot on raids and having no real purpose in a group other then lack of dps and a small role in support. I do parse in the 900's on raids and i understand your arguement that were utility but should we be not something more? Top end troubadours who play enough deserve something that defines them, if not run speed or a 15m unique ability like every other class what? i would like something please before i finally retire my troubadour for playing her has become to frustrating. Post was exactly a cry out, but a cry out to the most deserving and least appreciated class sony has to offer<div></div>

Mildavyn

11-23-2006, 10:13 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> AkuSokuZan wrote: For pvp purposes Troubadour is by far the most worthless class solo (Actually that title goes to healers generally... and tanks) in the game, but for even not pvp purpose? The great nerfs of EoF seems to have a benefit in it for everyone, but wheres troubs benefit? (You dont want your spells to land now? You dont want them to do damage when they do? Have you actually PLAYED your troubador after the changes?) Treasured leather wearers unbuffed now have more Mitigation then my fully fabled Troubadour (I call Bull[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] on this), Casters got there skills increased for spells 4k ice novas are a blast when you just get resist resist resist as a trouby in pvp <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> (Obviously you HAVEN'T played since the changes). the lovely two click classes such as brigands/rangers/assassins still have there godlike ability (there are potions that let you stop the brigand's stun+stiffle+root combo... assasins are harder, but if they cant get into stealth, or melee range, they cant decapitate you), Healers are nearly invincible w/ the changes and tanks are tanks just as they always been (yes to the tanks, NO to the healers. They have to fight now since their first heal puts em in-combat. Use your mez, use your charm and use your stiffle. They cant cast very many spells if you know what you're doing). So where does the troubadour turn? I'm not quite sure anymore what exactly my classes purpose is. Dirges seem to have it easy in pvp w/ there Fear(mez?), Life taps(Quirons now regens 116/tick at Ad3), root ability, and lets not forget to mention there haste/interupt ancient ability enabling them to kill healers (Stiffle+PotM does quite well now) were troubadours are left dumbfounded. <STRIKE>Are</STRIKE> Our so great mez is no more greater then a Swashys (longer duration, less cast time, ours is better) and <STRIKE>are </STRIKE>our charm is near pathetic (Yeah, the ability to turn a 3v1 into a 2v2 sure does suck) tho can server a small purpose once in a while after the 10x resist attempts (You havent played your troubador after these changes, either that or you're using our level 20 charm at Ap I and trying to charm people with 10k mental resists). Runs speed is glorious as you watch druids sprint twice as fast as you.....(This one IS annoying, and i dont see it getting fixed any time soon) I am sorry i would like more then being a buff bot on raids and having no real purpose in a group other then lack of dps and a small role in support. (I agree, in a propper group, we are just buffs and sub-par DPS, however in a group without a healer, we really do shine. Got adds? charm em, then mez. Fighting a tough mob that is going to kill your tank before you can get it to 50%? Mez, then use Quirrons to regen to full, while keeping the mob mezzed. The best fun I've ever had was in a small group with just me and a lvl 66 Guardian. We managed to get down to the forge in SoS by stealthing past the mobs and killing those that see. Mez and Charm helped, but quirons+mez combo basically enabled us to do it) I do parse in the 900's on raids and i understand your arguement that were utility but should we be not something more? Top end troubadours who play enough deserve something that defines them (You've already got it, the best buffs around and the ability to fill in for almost any class), if not run speed or a 15m unique ability like every other class what? i would like something please before i finally retire my troubadour for playing her has become to frustrating (I felt like this for the last few days, then i found out that the new AAs are a HELL of a lot better than the ones listed in this forum, and they certainly have turned me around. If SOE would give us our run-speed back, i would be the happiest Trouby on Venekor. /Renew Account). Post was exactly a cry out, but a cry out to the most deserving and least appreciated class sony has to offer <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Depressed much? Taken your pills lately? P.S Check out our AAs in-game the ones listed on the forums are out of date. P.P.S Thanks very much Kilandara for setting me straight. /cheerMessage Edited by Mildavyn on 11-22-2006 09:16 PM

Spider

11-25-2006, 05:51 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Mildavyn wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> AkuSokuZan wrote: For pvp purposes Troubadour is by far the most worthless class solo (Actually that title goes to healers generally... and tanks) in the game, but for even not pvp purpose? The great nerfs of EoF seems to have a benefit in it for everyone, but wheres troubs benefit? (You dont want your spells to land now? You dont want them to do damage when they do? Have you actually PLAYED your troubador after the changes?) Treasured leather wearers unbuffed now have more Mitigation then my fully fabled Troubadour (I call Bull[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] on this), Casters got there skills increased for spells 4k ice novas are a blast when you just get resist resist resist as a trouby in pvp <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> (Obviously you HAVEN'T played since the changes). the lovely two click classes such as brigands/rangers/assassins still have there godlike ability (there are potions that let you stop the brigand's stun+stiffle+root combo... assasins are harder, but if they cant get into stealth, or melee range, they cant decapitate you), Healers are nearly invincible w/ the changes and tanks are tanks just as they always been (yes to the tanks, NO to the healers. They have to fight now since their first heal puts em in-combat. Use your mez, use your charm and use your stiffle. They cant cast very many spells if you know what you're doing). So where does the troubadour turn? I'm not quite sure anymore what exactly my classes purpose is. Dirges seem to have it easy in pvp w/ there Fear(mez?), Life taps(Quirons now regens 116/tick at Ad3), root ability, and lets not forget to mention there haste/interupt ancient ability enabling them to kill healers (Stiffle+PotM does quite well now) were troubadours are left dumbfounded. <STRIKE>Are</STRIKE> Our so great mez is no more greater then a Swashys (longer duration, less cast time, ours is better) and <STRIKE>are </STRIKE>our charm is near pathetic (Yeah, the ability to turn a 3v1 into a 2v2 sure does suck) tho can server a small purpose once in a while after the 10x resist attempts (You havent played your troubador after these changes, either that or you're using our level 20 charm at Ap I and trying to charm people with 10k mental resists). Runs speed is glorious as you watch druids sprint twice as fast as you.....(This one IS annoying, and i dont see it getting fixed any time soon) I am sorry i would like more then being a buff bot on raids and having no real purpose in a group other then lack of dps and a small role in support. (I agree, in a propper group, we are just buffs and sub-par DPS, however in a group without a healer, we really do shine. Got adds? charm em, then mez. Fighting a tough mob that is going to kill your tank before you can get it to 50%? Mez, then use Quirrons to regen to full, while keeping the mob mezzed. The best fun I've ever had was in a small group with just me and a lvl 66 Guardian. We managed to get down to the forge in SoS by stealthing past the mobs and killing those that see. Mez and Charm helped, but quirons+mez combo basically enabled us to do it) I do parse in the 900's on raids and i understand your arguement that were utility but should we be not something more? Top end troubadours who play enough deserve something that defines them (You've already got it, the best buffs around and the ability to fill in for almost any class), if not run speed or a 15m unique ability like every other class what? i would like something please before i finally retire my troubadour for playing her has become to frustrating (I felt like this for the last few days, then i found out that the new AAs are a HELL of a lot better than the ones listed in this forum, and they certainly have turned me around. If SOE would give us our run-speed back, i would be the happiest Trouby on Venekor. /Renew Account). Post was exactly a cry out, but a cry out to the most deserving and least appreciated class sony has to offer <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Depressed much? Taken your pills lately? P.S Check out our AAs in-game the ones listed on the forums are out of date. P.P.S Thanks very much Kilandara for setting me straight. /cheer Message Edited by Mildavyn on 11-22-2006 09:16 PM <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Q to tha F to the MOTHER F'in E

Kilnger

11-25-2006, 09:04 AM

I wuv you too Paikis.<div></div>