past mistake ???

[Rainfinder]

<DIV>Let me start off by saying I have always liked the concept of the bard.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Not to long ago there was a mistake made - its normal many times mistakes happen. How ever imagine after makeing the mistake the said party grew bitter over makeing it ,  and  resented it. And in the end they decided to purge the entire mess in their eyes. So what happen ? They lost out , and big. People wouldnt trust them any more and till today they still bare the scare of the event.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now where am I going with this - I wont  name names, but ill tell you this  YOU WHO MAKE THESE GAMES MAKE THE PROFFESIONS WHAT THEY ARE -  IF A CLASS IS NERFED SO BAD  -  VERY FEW WILL PLAY IT. And the proof is in the pudding.</DIV>

[Rainfinder]

<DIV>Let me add a bit to this as well. I have been playing this game since launch and have seen all the changes to the troubador class. Simply put a class that is made desirable to play is played by many. If you take away from the class to where it is no longer desirable to play most will stop playing it. From my own person exp I can say that our class is wanting. And many have out right left over many of the changes - there is more than enough info about our problems listed here in the forums. Just seems like so many have given up......</DIV>

[thorvang]

you could remove all spells and combat arts from the troub, except the hate reducing song and people still would want troubs in their group. if other players want you in your group is a big part of a class being enjoyable, but it's far from being the only thing that matters.

[Lordviperscorpian]

<div><blockquote><hr>thorvang wrote:you could remove all spells and combat arts from the troub, except the hate reducing song and people still would want troubs in their group. if other players want you in your group is a big part of a class being enjoyable, but it's far from being the only thing that matters.<hr></blockquote>Yea why would we acually want to add something more to our group than a little aggro adjustment.../sarcasm off.  That kind of thinking is why both bard classes are becoming obsolete.  </div>

[Tri]

<div></div>As it is now, troubs are wanted on raids for de-aggro song.AND NOTHING ELSEDish in a bit of dpsAdd a bit here and there, casters like to have another proc, added mana regenbut in the end you are only there so sorcerers can attain the dps they should be dishing out.I often see my troub as the patch warlocks were waiting to tweak their class <span>:smileywink:( the guild warlock dosn't even bother showing up when i can't make it to a raid )You say Hey !!! i'm a lvl 70 bard, where is my 200% speed buff with added levitate and invis and see invis?Vendor says Here you go, a nice 34% speed for your group. a vendor does the "you got the shaft" dance <font color="#ff6666">BARDS NEED SPEED</font></span><div></div>