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MirageE
10-02-2006, 05:27 PM
Just trying to get a survey of which AA's you RAIDING (x4) troubs chose?  Getting ready to do my first respec on AA's as I had to solo/general group my toon for a while to get to level 70. Hence trying to get feedback as the toon switches to the raiding category.Thanks<div></div>

Marty78
10-02-2006, 06:00 PM
<DIV>No need to make a survey about that. All raiding troubadors choose Bladedance and DKTM because anything else would be foolish to pick.</DIV>

DresdenMalicaster
10-02-2006, 09:22 PM
<blockquote><hr>Marty78 wrote:<div>No need to make a survey about that. All raiding troubadors choose Bladedance and DKTM because anything else would be foolish to pick.</div><hr></blockquote>QFT. Look at the EQ2player page for any Troub/Dirge in a major raiding guild and you will see the same AAs. We get exactly 1 AA to play with besides those 2 lines. <div></div>

Rogotop
10-02-2006, 09:52 PM
Yeah its sad.  Having 1 or two AA lines that are MANDATORY, or at least leaps and bounds better than the next best alternative kinda defeats the purpose of AA's.Although, that coin toss AA has some potential!! <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

Siniac
10-03-2006, 09:02 AM
When I hit 70 and respec to raiding AA lines I will probably only have 20-25 AA points.  (if past toons are any guide)  Which line do I go down first while I work on getting to 50 AA's.  I assume the AOE avoidance line but wanted to see what people thought.Siniaq 39 TroubadorSiniacc 70 NecroSiniak 70 Guardian<div></div>

loveybutt
10-03-2006, 03:48 PM
<blockquote><hr>Siniac wrote:When I hit 70 and respec to raiding AA lines I will probably only have 20-25 AA points.  (if past toons are any guide)  Which line do I go down first while I work on getting to 50 AA's.  I assume the AOE avoidance line but wanted to see what people thought.Siniaq 39 TroubadorSiniacc 70 NecroSiniak 70 Guardian<div></div><hr></blockquote>Hmm well DKTM will actually be used more often since its a buff-until-canelled thing so its always being applied, but from my experience, AOE-immunity will be much mroe noticed when ya dont have it, on those few times its really needed.. Personally I went down the Aoe_immunity line first.  Atleast when ya hit 70 and start raiding fairly often, those AA's will fly by. I think i got 1 full AA the first time I killed vyemm.. The other two bards in my guild i believe went down the Aoe-immunity line first aswell.. <div></div>

VericSauvari
10-03-2006, 05:00 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> loveybutt wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Siniac wrote:<BR>When I hit 70 and respec to raiding AA lines I will probably only have 20-25 AA points.  (if past toons are any guide)  Which line do I go down first while I work on getting to 50 AA's.  I assume the AOE avoidance line but wanted to see what people thought.<BR><BR>Siniaq 39 Troubador<BR>Siniacc 70 Necro<BR>Siniak 70 Guardian<BR><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Hmm well DKTM will actually be used more often since its a buff-until-canelled thing so its always being applied, but from my experience, AOE-immunity will be much mroe noticed when ya dont have it, on those few times its really needed.. Personally I went down the Aoe_immunity line first.  Atleast when ya hit 70 and start raiding fairly often, those AA's will fly by. I think i got 1 full AA the first time I killed vyemm.. The other two bards in my guild i believe went down the Aoe-immunity line first aswell.. <BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>for dirges i believe its almost required to go all str all wisdom.</P> <P>for troubs we get a bit more freedom (if we want to be greedy and boost our own dps.)   my AA lines go something like str to bladeturn(<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />, agi bump(<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />, all wisdom</P> <P>why did i do this? i was completely bored and felt like seeing how it would affect my play style.  lack of group ae avoid will not affect my group all that much with the content we currently take down anyways.</P>

loveybutt
10-04-2006, 02:31 AM
<blockquote><hr>VericSauvari wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> loveybutt wrote: <blockquote> <hr> Siniac wrote:When I hit 70 and respec to raiding AA lines I will probably only have 20-25 AA points.  (if past toons are any guide)  Which line do I go down first while I work on getting to 50 AA's.  I assume the AOE avoidance line but wanted to see what people thought.Siniaq 39 TroubadorSiniacc 70 NecroSiniak 70 Guardian <div></div> <hr> </blockquote>Hmm well DKTM will actually be used more often since its a buff-until-canelled thing so its always being applied, but from my experience, AOE-immunity will be much mroe noticed when ya dont have it, on those few times its really needed.. Personally I went down the Aoe_immunity line first.  Atleast when ya hit 70 and start raiding fairly often, those AA's will fly by. I think i got 1 full AA the first time I killed vyemm.. The other two bards in my guild i believe went down the Aoe-immunity line first aswell.. <div></div> <hr> </blockquote> <p>for dirges i believe its almost required to go all str all wisdom.</p> <p>for troubs we get a bit more freedom (if we want to be greedy and boost our own dps.)   my AA lines go something like str to bladeturn(<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />, agi bump(<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />, all wisdom</p> <p>why did i do this? i was completely bored and felt like seeing how it would affect my play style.  lack of group ae avoid will not affect my group all that much with the content we currently take down anyways.</p><hr></blockquote>Very true,  dirges will most likely be stuck with more melee types, but if you have more then one troub in the raid, chances are one of ya are going to be in a mixed group of casters and melee types... I do miss bump though..<div></div>

MirageE
10-04-2006, 09:24 PM
<div></div>OK respec'd to STR and WISRaided last night love the group buffsSimilar to the above poster though I definitely miss bump!  That was a great, great AA line and one i hope they put a similar too in the sub-class AA line.  Actually I miss that entire AGI line as it was a good one for solo'ing in my opinion.  Anxiously looking forward to the subclass lines....<div></div><p>Message Edited by MirageEIG on <span class=date_text>10-04-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:25 PM</span>

VericSauvari
10-04-2006, 09:59 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MirageEIG wrote:<BR> OK respec'd to STR and WIS<BR><BR>Raided last night <BR><BR>love the group buffs<BR><BR>Similar to the above poster though I definitely miss bump!  That was a great, great AA line and one i hope they put a similar too in the sub-class AA line.  Actually I miss that entire AGI line as it was a good one for solo'ing in my opinion.  <BR><BR>Anxiously looking forward to the subclass lines....<BR> <P>Message Edited by MirageEIG on <SPAN class=date_text>10-04-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>01:25 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>i really really like bump for some reason, i like the idea of damage->stealth->stealth attack in under 2 seconds..i have come to call it "blinking" for some reason :p<BR>

Jaimster
10-16-2006, 11:41 PM
I love bump too (actually I like that whole line up until the group invis)... unless they reduce the reuse timer on the AoE group block (Bladedance?), the stuff I'd have to give up, nm having to equip a one handed sword to use the dps portion of the line, just isn't worth it to me...

MirageE
10-17-2006, 12:42 AM
While yes i hate the 10 min reuse timer too it actually can be a dual wield sword fyi.... and for raiding that spell is UBER and I LOVE the fact that I respec'd... though I SO MISS BUMP TOO.Nothing better than during a raid (like last night) where tank lost control of the mob for a minute and the first thing I did was put on bladedance.  AOE hit before he regained control and some big healing was necessary EXCEPT on our group.... allowed our healers to keep the MT alive, heal some of the injured/resurrect dead, and get right back to finishing off the mob.  For raiding... i am VERY GLAD I respec'd.... but yes, I SOOOO MISS bump and hope there is similar in the sub-class AA line.  Devs pay attention: this is a VERY VERY VERY FUN SPELL for us troubs (otherwise a generally boring class).... find a way to fit it in!<div></div>

911GT3
10-19-2006, 03:15 AM
Right now I have full Wis line, then up to 4 in Turnstrike, and up to 5 in poison proc. Poison proc isnt that good and I realy want to respec but those [Removed for Content] charging me 13pp which I dont have. I dont get why they charge that much just to change AA, anywho If I ever get a free respec again im most likely changing it to full Wis line, then 8 in Turnstrike, and 8 in Bump. I dont realy need Bladedance even though I mostly raid, I had it before I did my last respec and I got rid of it because I barely ever used it, but with the new expansion coming out the Str line does kinda seem nice, though I realy realy like having bump, makes me actually feel like a scout class.<div></div>

Crombie
10-19-2006, 06:44 PM
<DIV>With the new combat changes, the INT line looks more promising (of course not Coin Toss..) The increase on haste and dove song would be decent.. but only thing you could really drop for those would be DKTM ~ hmm</DIV>

Dwergux
10-22-2006, 06:32 PM
Now for the hard part....where did you put AP nr 50?