Dirge or Troub

[Regpyr]

<DIV>Heya, im going to make a raiding bard, and im trying to figure out the differences between Dirges and Troubadors, if you guys could outline the key differences between the two classes, including abilities like charm and rez, (I've heard one of you gets these) etc.</DIV> <DIV>Thanks in advance :smileyvery-happy:</DIV>

[911GT3]

If you wana be in the main tank group or mele group and like to be more mele oriented and able to rez people, choose DirgeIf you wana be in the dps group and like to be more spell casting oriented and have semi useful mez and charm, choose TroubadorBoth are great for leveling in xp groups, and in most cases Troubs can do more dps than Dirge and are slightly better at soloing.<div></div>

[Regpyr]

<P>Ok, one more, which class gets more debuffs, and what kind of debuffs are they?</P>

[Mishrac]

<DIV>Check the Sticky.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>For the spells, you lazy bum : )</DIV>

[Harongats]

<P>Dirge FTW...</P> <P>Troub relic makes you look like a gingerbread man... :smileyvery-happy:</P><p>Message Edited by Harongats on <span class=date_text>10-04-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:17 PM</span>

[Kraks_Aforty]

Both kinda suck, seeing as bards are the only scout class that has to nonstop spam debuffs and CAs just to put out anything over 700dps on a raid.  With the combat changes, our casting should do a bit better DPS, but until then, we're kinda craptastic.  If it weren't for the power regen, we'd be nearly worthless atm seeing as holding aggro is cake now with all the +threat items.<div></div>

[Crimson Dragon]

<div><blockquote><hr>Harongats wrote:<div></div> <div></div> <p>Dirge FTW...</p> <p>Troub relic makes you look like a gingerbread man... :smileyvery-happy:</p><p>Message Edited by Harongats on <span class="date_text">10-04-2006</span> <span class="time_text">10:17 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>mmmmm gingerbread.... <span>:smileyhappy:</span></div>

[911GT3]

<div><blockquote><hr>Kraks_Aforty wrote:Both kinda suck, seeing as bards are the only scout class that has to nonstop spam debuffs and CAs just to put out anything over 700dps on a raid.  With the combat changes, our casting should do a bit better DPS, but until then, we're kinda craptastic.  If it weren't for the power regen, we'd be nearly worthless atm seeing as holding aggro is cake now with all the +threat items.<div></div><hr></blockquote>Your problem my be your debuffing, other than our mental debuff the rest are almost useless in raids and just take away from you doing damage while they are casting. Also, which classes are out dpsing you on a regular basis that you think should not be? Because I am usually right where I expect to be on the raid parses.</div>

[VericSauvari]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> 911GT3 wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kraks_Aforty wrote:<BR>Both kinda suck, seeing as bards are the only scout class that has to nonstop spam debuffs and CAs just to put out anything over 700dps on a raid.  With the combat changes, our casting should do a bit better DPS, but until then, we're kinda craptastic.  If it weren't for the power regen, we'd be nearly worthless atm seeing as holding aggro is cake now with all the +threat items.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Your problem my be your debuffing, other than our mental debuff the rest are almost useless in raids and just take away from you doing damage while they are casting. Also, which classes are out dpsing you on a regular basis that you think should not be? Because I am usually right where I expect to be on the raid parses.<BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>ive never had my debuffing take up a significant amount of my time. debuffing the primary "green" debuffs takes what...1second cast time per? the others like lore and chant can simply be put into the end of  the chain of CA's while the stealth debuff can be added right after bump comes back up (if you have the agi bump AA)