DREADNAUGHT part 2

[DankShasta]

First Qeynosian Dreadnaught? At least on Nagafen!! Did it mostly solo! Dreadnaught Dankshasta<p>Message Edited by DankShasta on <span class=date_text>10-11-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:21 AM</span>

[vinterskugge]

<DIV>What?</DIV>

[DankShasta]

We finally a Q troub Dreadnaught on Nagafen! I can't Believe it took so long!!!! Dankshasta

[vinterskugge]

<DIV>Is that some pvp thing?</DIV>

[Allowin]

its a prefix title. get it by doing something that i would never think a troub would be able (or willing to spend the time) to do.congratz<div></div>

[BOy]

great job mate. <BR>im still findin my feet so to speak with slayer..

[SeregWethrin]

<div></div>Gratz on dreadnaught but your not the first qeynosion dreadnaught by a long shot and nafagen even has a master dirge on the qeynos side.  I think we have about 7 or 8 masters already.  gratz on first troub dreadnaught.<div></div><p>Message Edited by SeregWethrin on <span class=date_text>08-11-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:20 PM</span>

[The Jaquio]

<DIV>Grats on dreadnaught.  Its tough to get as a troub.  Unfortunately you are not to first troub to be a dreadnaught.  I (Jester) was a dreadnaught back before exile came out.  I went exile and had my title reset. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Grats anyhow. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jester</DIV> <DIV>Officer of Havoc</DIV>

[DankShasta]

Grats if you got it before exile!! I hadnt thought of that!LOL!~ Yeah I amthe only one in Qeynos now on Naggy. It'sa tough rank with Troubador. Dankshasta

[Kilnger]

I got Dreadnaught on Venekor some three or four months ago, give or take. I think at the time there weren't any masters at all (at least on Venekor) and broke some sort of unspoken rule. Troubadours aren't as bad as they seem to be on PVP, but they absolutely cannot hold themselves in solo PVP.<div></div>

[The Jaquio]

<DIV>Troubs are fine in group pvp, they are really useful with charm/mez and buffs.  </DIV> <DIV><BR>Solo pvp is completely different.  I do good in solo pvp assuming I can keep them snared/mezzed/charmed the entire fight.</DIV> <DIV>As soon as a brig or bruiser gets within melee range, game over. </DIV> <DIV>Healers?  I dont even bother giving it a shot 1v1.  No way I can outdps heals.  </DIV> <DIV>Tanks?  If they have decent gear it would take forever to kill one.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I basically have full fabled gear and all master spells and I still am subpar in pvp.  I wouldnt want to be a hardcore pvper unless I could manage to get fully twinked.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So getting dreadnaught is quite an accomplishment as a troub.  Getting master will be amazing.  GL Dank im sure you will get master way before me.  I gave up on pvping on my main a long time ago.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jester</DIV> <DIV>Officer of Havoc</DIV>

[Peston]

Im cofused?<div></div>

[Lordviperscorpian]

Grats on Dread Dark.  I hope to see Master by your name one day.  Any bard that can get Dreadnaught/Master title is an achievment worth gloating about.  <div></div>

[rogerdeuce]

<P>grats, does this give you added stats and/or abilities too? or just a name?</P> <P> </P>

[DankShasta]

<blockquote><hr>rogerdeuce wrote:<P>grats, does this give you added stats and/or abilities too? or just a name?</P><P> </P><hr></blockquote>Well I exiled three weeks ago, and got my Dreadnaught in Freeport as well. So I finally have a first over Jester!! First Troubador to get to Dreadnaught with two different Factions?? I dont know but I am happy to get it back. In case anybody is wondering. IT IS ALOT EASIER TO GET DREADNAUGHT AS A FREEPORT!! Like it aint even close! When I was in Qeynos, I was the only Dreadnaught Troubador, and that title was very hard to get. It takes me alittle longer to kill a a target than a swashy (for real, I promise) Also there are freeps EVERYWHERE!! Don't get me wrong, it still represents alot of good pvp. I just want everybody to know before they even ask, YES IT IS ALITTLE EASIER IN FREEPORT!!Dankshasta Dreadnaught of Electric Ladyland

[Spider]

nice nice im just a few infamy kills away from destroyer on vox muahahaha

[SoMaKuTa]

<P>Well this thread wouldn't be complete without the first Troub Dreadnaught PVP server wide posting!!!</P> <P>Hey Jester how have you been?</P> <P> </P> <P>Miserable</P>

[Reptilianb]

<P>I was the first and only troub dreadnaught on darathar and cloest to master a few months ago (out of all classes).. but now i've exiled... so i lost my title, i gave up pvp'ing, and only rarely play eq2 for raiding.</P> <P>Troubadours need some serious work (loving), hopefully it will be fixed.</P> <P>Number one ranked brigand Vs me video.. need xvid...</P> <P><A href="http://www.purity-guild.eu/Movies/acolospopsicle.avi" target=_blank>http://www.purity-guild.eu/Movies/acolospopsicle.avi</A></P> <P>Acolos</P> <P> </P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P><p>Message Edited by Reptilianboy on <span class=date_text>10-17-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:58 PM</span>

[Filthysnake]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Reptilianboy wrote:<BR> <P>I was the first and only troub dreadnaught on darathar and cloest to master a few months ago (out of all classes).. but now i've exiled... so i lost my title, i gave up pvp'ing, and only rarely play eq2 for raiding.</P> <P>Troubadours need some serious work (loving), hopefully it will be fixed.</P> <P>Number one ranked brigand Vs me video.. need xvid...</P> <P><A href="http://www.purity-guild.eu/Movies/acolospopsicle.avi" target=_blank>http://www.purity-guild.eu/Movies/acolospopsicle.avi</A></P> <P>Acolos</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P> </P> <P>something confuses me...I am seeing posts concerning a few troubs getting dreadnaught (i assume its the max title you can get?) and posts stating troub players are getting it before a lot of other people.</P> <P> </P> <P>so whats wrong with troubadors in pvp? clearly they have something that allows them to maintain a level of competativeness to be part of the top tier pvp'ers<BR></P>

[Reptilianb]

<DIV>your getting it wrong mate <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ... troubs are rubbish... in PVP Brigands and Rangers pwn everyone.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>A Dirge or Troub getting master/dreadnaught is suprising because they are so rubbish <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Acolos / Acoloss</DIV>

[Malicorp]

<blockquote><hr>Filthysnake wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Reptilianboy wrote: <div></div> <div></div> <div></div> <p>I was the first and only troub dreadnaught on darathar and cloest to master a few months ago (out of all classes).. but now i've exiled... so i lost my title, i gave up pvp'ing, and only rarely play eq2 for raiding.</p> <p>Troubadours need some serious work (loving), hopefully it will be fixed.</p> <p>Number one ranked brigand Vs me video.. need xvid...</p> <p><a href="http://www.purity-guild.eu/Movies/acolospopsicle.avi" target="_blank">http://www.purity-guild.eu/Movies/acolospopsicle.avi</a></p> <p>Acolos</p> <hr> </blockquote> <p>something confuses me...I am seeing posts concerning a few troubs getting dreadnaught (i assume its the max title you can get?) and posts stating troub players are getting it before a lot of other people.</p> <p>so whats wrong with troubadors in pvp? clearly they have something that allows them to maintain a level of competativeness to be part of the top tier pvp'ers</p><hr></blockquote>First off, do not assume titles are any indication of skill. The title system as is is complete garbage.... here's a brief description. The PvP "ranks" are Hunter, Slayer, Destroyer, Champion, Dreadnaught and Master. You receive points towards ranking up by killing a person of +/-1 to your current rank... i.e. a Champion gets rank points (named differently based on your home city) for killing Destroyers, Champions and Dreadnaughts. He gains/loses nothing in the ranking department for killing or dying to a Master, Slayer, or Hunter. This is no indictment of Dankshasta's PvP abilities as I've never fought him and don't think he's up to T7 yet. Now, EQ2 PvP is really a gankers game. Certainly, a good PvPer can achieve a good rank, but a good rank does not make one a good PvPer. Assassins, for example, can decap/evac their way to a Master title. It is, however, more complicated for a low dps class like Troubadors. Simply put, Troubadors are extremely weak solo PvPers against all but a few classes and even for those few classes, the opposition must be simply stupid enough to let you snare kite them. Playing a near fully Mastered T7 Troubador currently is frustrating. A green twinked brigand will force you to run given the state of spell resistability. You can't run solo or you're asking for trouble. In a group or raid PvP setting, Troubadors are indeed very capable group members. Snare, Mez and Charm (assuming you get lucky enough to land with your mental debuff and max subjugation) are very potent group weapons. Precision of the Maestro can add significant DPS to casters in a PvP group setting. Our casting skills buff, haste, str/sta, Aria's and our elemental/arcane resistance songs are all extremely nice additions to the PvP repitoire.<div></div>

[itsjck999]

<DIV>Hey Miserable, how you doing.  This is Jester on my Brigand account. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I wouldnt have claimed to be first troubador on naggy to get Dreadnaught.  You had the title WAY before me.  Heck you were first 70 troub probably 2 weeks before me.   </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Edge</DIV>

[Sheissam]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Reptilianboy wrote:<BR> <DIV>your getting it wrong mate <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ... troubs are rubbish... in PVP Brigands and Rangers pwn everyone.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>A Dirge or Troub getting master/dreadnaught is suprising because they are so rubbish <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Acolos / Acoloss</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>        As far as Rangers go . . . I have both a Ranger and Troub in PvP and I know both classes inside-out.  Personally, I would rather solo with Troub over Ranger anyday.  I will take on any class solo, yellow con or lower, and feel confident I can beat them and have only lost solo fights to yellow cons, necros, bruisers and brigands.  Kiting with a Ranger in PvP is 100x more difficult than Troub.  Example:  my Ranger was in SS other day when a yellow assassin came up on track.  I laid my Thorny Trap, saw him, stuck him with my slowing arrow Master 2, starting backing up, hit my Focus Fire . . .  he hits the trap, rooted, i pump a crap load of arrows into him, another slowing shot as he's now making it toward me from the trap.  I'm still backing up, and kill him right as he reaches me.  That's about as perfect as it gets for Ranger.  He respawned, I gave him another shot, but this time my trap didn't hold and neither did my slowing arrow and he pwned me in like 2 secs.  Most of the time on Ranger, my roots and what-not do NOT hold.  Of course, nothing compares to me sneaking up on a tank or a mage and killing them b4 they get an attack off, but if we are talking about one-on-one solo fights where there is no sneak-factor and everything else is equal, my troub would pwn my ranger any day of the week.  That's my 2c.</DIV> <DIV>--Chilmata Hari, sexiest troub on Venekor</DIV>

[Spider]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sheissam wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Reptilianboy wrote:<BR> <DIV>your getting it wrong mate <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ... troubs are rubbish... in PVP Brigands and Rangers pwn everyone.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>A Dirge or Troub getting master/dreadnaught is suprising because they are so rubbish <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Acolos / Acoloss</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>        As far as Rangers go . . . I have both a Ranger and Troub in PvP and I know both classes inside-out.  Personally, I would rather solo with Troub over Ranger anyday.  I will take on any class solo, yellow con or lower, and feel confident I can beat them and have only lost solo fights to yellow cons, necros, bruisers and brigands.  Kiting with a Ranger in PvP is 100x more difficult than Troub.  Example:  my Ranger was in SS other day when a yellow assassin came up on track.  I laid my Thorny Trap, saw him, stuck him with my slowing arrow Master 2, starting backing up, hit my Focus Fire . . .  he hits the trap, rooted, i pump a crap load of arrows into him, another slowing shot as he's now making it toward me from the trap.  I'm still backing up, and kill him right as he reaches me.  That's about as perfect as it gets for Ranger.  He respawned, I gave him another shot, but this time my trap didn't hold and neither did my slowing arrow and he pwned me in like 2 secs.  Most of the time on Ranger, my roots and what-not do NOT hold.  Of course, nothing compares to me sneaking up on a tank or a mage and killing them b4 they get an attack off, but if we are talking about one-on-one solo fights where there is no sneak-factor and everything else is equal, my troub would pwn my ranger any day of the week.  That's my 2c.</DIV> <DIV>--Chilmata Hari, sexiest troub on Venekor</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>absolutely ive dropped more rangers than i can count on my troub  and casters and healers and fighters , although monks are a bit rough ... ouch ... if i win against them is by the skin of my teeth

[LokiAngelOfDeath666]

bnbnv<p>Message Edited by LokiAngelOfDeath666 on <span class=date_text>11-04-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:48 PM</span>

[Qwestionator]

Nagafen troubadors <3 drama irl<div></div>

[DankShasta]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Qwestionator wrote:<BR>Nagafen troubadors <3 drama irl<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>  Geez!! </P> <P> </P> <P>   No doubt! Anyway gratz to me!</P> <P> </P> <P>Dankshasta Dreadnaught of Freeport, Qeynos, and soon to be..............</P>

[DankShasta]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Qwestionator wrote:<BR>Nagafen troubadors <3 drama irl<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I see you got Dreadnaught! There are some lowbie Troubs that are Dread now, I guess I'm a trend setter. I have I start a trend when I get Master too:smileywink:</P> <P> </P> <P>Dankshasta Dreadnaught of Freeport, and former Dreadnaught of Qeynos</P>

[Qwestionator]

<div><blockquote><hr>DankShasta wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Qwestionator wrote:Nagafen troubadors <3 drama irl <div></div> <hr> </blockquote> <p>I see you got Dreadnaught! There are some lowbie Troubs that are Dread now, I guess I'm a trend setter. I have I start a trend when I get Master too:smileywink:</p> <p>Dankshasta Dreadnaught of Freeport, and former Dreadnaught of Qeynos</p><hr></blockquote>Lol it will be a while before i can get a solid hold on the title <span>:smileysad:</span> - in t7 pvp my master 1 mez gets chain resisted makes it really hard to solo pvp so its a bit harder to get a hold on a title.  i miss being 40s/50s when pvp was balanced.</div>

[Spider]

not for long

[loveybutt]

<blockquote><hr>lspiderl wrote:<div></div>not for long<hr></blockquote>Didnt do a whole lot of solo pvp today, but with adept 1 mezz, and adept 1 dove song, maybe 7 out of 8 mezzes actually landed on the first attempt :o.. They were all blue to white con, from sk to wizzy to dirge to i dont know..  Even managed to land my shrill for 1400+.. Still early to really tell, but maybe theres hope for the t7 troub after all..  (although im sure it will still be a long long time till i see dreadnaugh hobs <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />, if ever..been champion to long).. Hobs Naggy pvp, 70 troub of havoc.. <div></div>