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[pera]

Aye fare well and good night I've finaly betrayed to a drige, lol for many differnt reason, but i guess i alwasy was a dirge at heart <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

[Jeger_Wulf]

Haven't played my troubadour since the update. Not particularly boycotting him, but alts seem more fun atm.

[Tipa]

Good luck. I considered doing the same...Though only level 59, Troubador is what I always wanted to play in EQ2. Mez and charm. The closest I could get to my old DAoC Minstrel; charm a humanoid and go out soloing. I could (in the old days) take on group mobs myself, solo, if I didn't mind dying a few times figuring it out. I wanted to try that here on EQ2, and I could, until Live Update 24.I don't leave a buff slot open for charm, and rarely bother to mez. Heading down to Naggy for Speaks As A Dragon last night, the swashbuckler was mezzing as good as I could. At least I can still run very fast!But anyway. I'm not going to switch to dirge. Grass is always greener... too old to learn new tricks and too poor to afford to buy new spells... raid I was in had two dirges but I, the only troub. I'll just be a little more unique, and that can't be too bad <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[Zapdafi]

just an fyi, charm doesnt need a slot to use anymore so you may still wanna play with it some.

[LordCalido]

<DIV>I only play my troubador on raids now. Before LU24, I played him 6 hours a night not including raids but half the time I am struggling to stay awake. Don't get me wrong, I love to raid but the contribution other than agro debuff for casters now is even smaller. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Too bad Sony bought Vanguard or I would look into playing that when it comes out. After the screwed up mess they have made of this game in these past updates, I won't buy another game Sony is involved in.</DIV><p>Message Edited by LordCalidore on <span class=date_text>06-27-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:28 PM</span>

[pera]

<blockquote><hr>LordCalidore wrote:<div></div> <div>I only play my troubador on raids now. Before LU24, I played him 6 hours a night not including raids but half the time I am struggling to stay awake. Don't get me wrong, I love to raid but the contribution other than agro debuff for casters now is even smaller. </div> <div> </div> <div><font color="#ffff00">Too bad Sony bought Vanguard or I would look into playing that when it comes out. After the screwed up mess they have made of this game in these past updates, I won't buy another game Sony is involved in.</font></div><p>Message Edited by LordCalidore on <span class="date_text">06-27-2006</span> <span class="time_text">03:28 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote><img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Actualy this statement is very wrong <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. SoE did not buy Sigil's Vanguard:Saga of Heros, what happened is Sigil purchased the publicishing rights back from Microsoft and aproched SoE to provide billing and sever hosting.   SoE will provide server hosting, and billing hosting.   Other than that and limited to those things SoE will NOT have any part in Vanguard.   So Sigil still owns full control of Vanguard with out any fear of SoE meddling. <div></div>

[Mishrac]

<P>Cant get in to ogaming at the moment so ill ask here instead who starts the betrayl in Freeport? anyone knows?</P> <P>And If i betray can I instead of betraying to Qeynos change and betray to freeport?... I would like to stay in freeport : )</P> <P> </P>

[Lachlan]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tipa wrote:<BR>I don't leave a buff slot open for charm, and rarely bother to mez. Heading down to Naggy for Speaks As A Dragon last night, <STRONG>the swashbuckler was mezzing as good as I could.</STRONG><BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>That's one of the biggest disappointments, I could have must made a Swash if I knew Charm was going to disappear, still get about the same mez and all the dps, poisons and group invis.  Swashies also have some very nice buffs so the idea that we are a buff class therefor weak dps doesn't hold water anymore.  Everyone is a buff class.  My Guardian was a buff class.  A Fury is a buff class with nice nukes and fast heals out the wazoo! </P> <P>Tipa wrote:</P> <P><STRONG>At least I can still run very fast!</STRONG></P> <P>True and I've maxed out AA run speed (sacrificing dps AA's).   With Jboots and selo's I have 56% which is nice but new mounts are coming with 56% speed so I can look forward to being run down by everyone on my PvP server who's exiled to form an uber raid guild.  I wouldn't mind if I could stand toe to toe with other classes around my level, but Troubs have not been designed to do that so I remain disappointed as hell in the LU23 -24 era. </P> <P> </P>

[pera]

<blockquote><hr>Mishrac wrote:<div></div> <p>Cant get in to ogaming at the moment so ill ask here instead who starts the betrayl in Freeport? anyone knows?</p> <p>And If i betray can I instead of betraying to Qeynos change and betray to freeport?... I would like to stay in freeport : )</p> <hr></blockquote>Yes you can stay with your own city.  Anyone really can do this reguardless of class but for non-neutrual classes it would be really stupid because you lose all your spells, you stay in the same city, and you are still the same class.  What happens is when you betray you city you become an excil, (pretty cool little sub city).  Once you are an exil you will be given the option to either help out freeport or help out qeynos.  Which ever one you help you will adventualy become a cittizen of.  Once you have become a cittizen of that city you will be given the option to talk to two differnt trainers, a drige trainer, and a troub trainer. Once you pick your trainer and finalize it, all your spells will go back to App 1. (Execpt for Zanders for some reason, mine stayed at Adept III)(And you wont get any 50+ spells because you have to buy them) <div></div>

[Mishrac]

<DIV>Just btrayed last night so im going to say Bye... ill drop in from time to time to check if anything changes.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So from now on ill be hanging in the Dirge Forum.</DIV>

[Cr]

I want to keep my lev 38 troub (AB).  I just want charm back, it was useful and fun.  I might consider betray but I will lose my house.  Sony if you want to kill off the troubs, then let us keep the house and you can get the numbers down even more.  Sony, please lets meet in the middle, charm was 2 or 3 minutes now its what 14 seconds.  How about 1:30 seconds?For now, my main is a ranger on another server (BB).<div></div>

[Emerix]

the charm as it is now is useful in groups . if you get an add you can turn it into help for you even if its for a short time .. and after that mez it or kill it .

[Jooneau]

<blockquote><hr>Emerix wrote:the charm as it is now is useful in groups . if you get an add you can turn it into help for you even if its for a short time .. and after that mez it or kill it .<hr></blockquote>Unless you're not level 50, in which you can't mesmerize at all. Swashbucklers and bruisers are better crowd control than we are before 50.