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Sabatini
06-22-2006, 06:49 PM
I recently picked up 'Kian's Destructive Anthem' and am liking it enough that a master version is seeming very attractive to me. However, I've been playing solo since I've gotten it and havent had a decent chance to really give it a workout in a group setting.So my question is this. Exactly how much hell can I expect to be brought down upon my head running this from an aggro standpoint? Especially in a Master version? Is our Alin's line enough to keep it in line with a halfway decent tank? Or will using it in a group be like hitting a 'kill me' button? If I had my Swashbuckler's hate transfer, I wouldnt be too worried.Anyone have tips on using this one safely? Am I worrying too much? Should I stay clear of it? Any advice that would keep me from getting becoming an aggro in-joke like I see happen to most trigger happy Sorcerer types would be welcome. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

missing_peace
06-22-2006, 07:26 PM
<P>Well, it's actually a very weak DoT and it tics slowly.  You can use it after a single taunt from the fighter without fear of getting aggro.</P> <P> </P>

LodrinSt
06-22-2006, 07:38 PM
rofl, steal aggro with kian's? HAHAHAHAH

Sabatini
06-22-2006, 07:59 PM
Heh Well I'm talking early 30s here, and that the master version nearly doubles in damage. Obviously I'm not worried about stealing single target aggro, more the rest of the encounter if the Tank is less than quick with his encounter taunt. Its kind of been my experience that groups around that level range tend to be overconfident and sloppy because they've got some higher level alt in some unrelated class than the one they're playing. Good to know I shouldnt worry about it. Thanks <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Jooneau
06-22-2006, 08:24 PM
Kian's is a very weak AE DoT. A level 22 Wizard DoT does more damage and does it more often than our level 60 DoT. Its debuff aspect is rather weak too, to be honest. Its best use is to trigger AE Precision of the Maestro procs.

vinterskugge
06-22-2006, 10:14 PM
<DIV>Do you like anything about the class?</DIV>

Kraks_Aforty
06-22-2006, 10:30 PM
<div><blockquote><hr>Jooneau wrote:Kian's is a very weak AE DoT. A level 22 Wizard DoT does more damage and does it more often than our level 60 DoT. Its debuff aspect is rather weak too, to be honest. Its best use is to trigger AE Precision of the Maestro procs.<hr></blockquote>Yeah, who cares that WIS reduction  = across the board resist reduction too.</div>

Godzmodi
06-23-2006, 01:10 AM
its usually one of the first things i always cast and i want it to always be up. i should have a extra hit a the end like enchanters imo though <div></div>

Jooneau
06-25-2006, 02:05 AM
<blockquote><hr>Kraks_Aforty wrote:<div><blockquote><hr>Jooneau wrote:Kian's is a very weak AE DoT. A level 22 Wizard DoT does more damage and does it more often than our level 60 DoT. Its debuff aspect is rather weak too, to be honest. Its best use is to trigger AE Precision of the Maestro procs.<hr></blockquote>Yeah, who cares that WIS reduction  = across the board resist reduction too.</div><hr></blockquote>ROFLMAO, the WIS reduction does jack squat to NPC resists. Can you say placebo?<p>Message Edited by Jooneau on <span class=date_text>06-24-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:05 PM</span>

Jooneau
06-25-2006, 02:07 AM
<blockquote><hr>vinterskugge wrote:<DIV>Do you like anything about the class?</DIV><hr></blockquote>Not really. Thanks to people like you who embrace all SOE's negative changes to the class with open arms, this class has turned to total [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] pretty much.<p>Message Edited by Jooneau on <span class=date_text>06-24-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:10 PM</span>

Jait
06-25-2006, 03:21 AM
<DIV>Kian owns for PvP.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And I mean PWNS!  It's not a bad PvE spell either, for the reasons listed above.  </DIV>

Kraks_Aforty
06-25-2006, 05:11 AM
<div><blockquote><hr>Jooneau wrote:<blockquote><hr>Kraks_Aforty wrote:<div><blockquote><hr>Jooneau wrote:Kian's is a very weak AE DoT. A level 22 Wizard DoT does more damage and does it more often than our level 60 DoT. Its debuff aspect is rather weak too, to be honest. Its best use is to trigger AE Precision of the Maestro procs.<hr></blockquote>Yeah, who cares that WIS reduction  = across the board resist reduction too.</div><hr></blockquote>ROFLMAO, the WIS reduction does jack squat to NPC resists. Can you say placebo?<p>Message Edited by Jooneau on <span class="date_text">06-24-2006</span> <span class="time_text">06:05 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Every bit counts, and yes it does.  Let someone duel you and get that on you, then check your resists.Furthermore, this sucker did 10k damage on Tarinax last night in about 4 minutes.  I'd say that's worth having right there alone.</div>

Kreat
06-26-2006, 04:50 AM
Yupp, Kian's rawks =)