Dirge vs. Troub Raid DPS

[MrCAP]

Hey all. Im starting an alt and i want it to be a bard. I notice also that Troubs seem to be the least played class so thats also a reason for me playing one. Neway, my question is: How do dirges compare to troubs DPS wise on raids. I mean i know the main thing for a troub is to buff but id like a support plus DPS class thats not a mage and i think this is it. Can neone plz post some parses from raids or give me a link or some info about their numbers on raids. thanks in advance

[Sanju]

There's no simple answer. It depends on equipment, spell level, the mobs you're fighting, player skill, etc.In general, it's more likely that a dirge could out-dps a troub on a single target, while troubs have the advantage on multiple mob encounters.In reality, I'm rarely out-DPSed by a dirge on any raid encounter, whether single mob or multiple.<div></div>

[Emerix]

<DIV>If you want DPS play an assasin or some other DPS class . Bards arent made for dps .</DIV> <DIV>IN PPTR i did top tier dps tho when POM was up ..which is rare .. <-------------70 Trouby </DIV> <DIV>Dirges had no chance to get close there .</DIV>

[Killerbee3000]

<DIV>with all buffs at adept 3 and all dmg stuff at app4 or adept1 i end up with a dps between 150 and 350 in raids as a trouby (troubys suck like hell on dps if they have to stay out aoe range) the other 70 trouby in the guild with all adept 3 ends up between  400 and 600 dps.</DIV> <DIV>we dont have a dirge so no numbers to compare to:smileymad:</DIV>

[MrCAP]

Thanks for all the responses guys. i really appreciate it. i dont wanna play a ranger or assassian because their boreing. all the do is spam their attacks. I have a brigand for that. it takes more skill (IMHO) to play a bard then it does to play a ranger, assassian. I jsut wanted a class with decent dps with alot of utility and it looks like a troub is it. thanks again guys

[Chantweaver]

<P>I am Dirge and agree with some of what is said here about DPS.  Now I am not a DPS nut I have played a bard since the days of UO.  In raids for my guild the troubs and I are always about the same area on DPS around the 400 area on my parser I run for the guild.  I am a little better equiped then the troubs.  This is where the difference comes on to effect thou,  I am in the MT group 98% of the time.  Which means I have full Def buffs up and 0 DPS adding buffs up.  I hit the top 10 on most all fights except thje really fast one or cluster f's.  Fast fights I am barely through with debuffing by time the fight is over and the others and I am rezzing to much to DPS.  </P> <P>The other day I was late for a raid and they had the group basicly set by time I made it.  They said we going to try something new in MT group.  I was cool with that don't get to DPS much.  Got me in a good DPS group.  I rocked numebr two spot for 90% of the time in that group.  [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] PETS can't beat them much on max distance fights.  </P> <P>The troubs may have been in top 10 every couple fights but hell my group besides pets was the top 5 actually players.  Poor Inquisy couldn't get up there.  That is how it is when I am DPSing.  But Dirges don't get the love cuase they are almost always in the MT group.</P>

[Zapdafi]

<DIV>I'm a troub and just started raiding recently too. My main focus now is to boost the abilities  of my raid group and I find myself using a completely different line of songs than if I were in an exp group. No more haste song, no more avoidance songs and alot of times, not even stat boosting songs ( including self). The only ones that look familiar to me is the run song and the mana regen song, hehe. But I gotta say I love it. Of course my DPS has gone way down but I never considered myself a major DPS'er to begin with. Sometimes I even strap on a shield and go one handed and lower my dps even more. The Troub is a  utility class and I don't think our niche is for dps, I havent played a Dirge so I can't say the same for them but ive seen what a Dirge can do for a DPS group and its SICK.</DIV> <DIV><BR>I would have loved to have gone down the Str and Sta AA lines, but have chosen the Wis and Int lines as they reinforce what I am already doing.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>