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mook85az
04-18-2006, 01:55 PM
I will ding 58 tomorrow, and the guild is conducting a raid this weekend.  I'm in the mage dps group (duh) and I need to know how to use this. I obviously want to wait some time before using it the first time, as it's sure to get the attention of the mob if it goes off too early.  But what I'm really wondering about is (this is our first time out raiding as a guild and a lot of first times for people attending) how do I get the mages to cooperate? Do I give a warning 10 seconds before to let them know they should stop casting and let their timers refresh?  Of course I'll discuss it first. Also, is this ever used in groups? Or is it too much hassle since most fights are over by the time the song could be used and completed. <div></div>

Pathos311
04-18-2006, 02:57 PM
I think you are making it a bit to complated.  I usually just throw it and cancel it in groups when I need 2 but in raids i tend to let people know when i light it off for aggro issues.  Its just a proc so rember your debuffs and spells set it off 2.  My favrate mistro trick is beaing grouped with a pally they set it off alot and concrate is our best friend. Pally+Troub FTW <div></div>

J
04-18-2006, 05:20 PM
<P>I give a warning, basically letting the group know that I'm increasing their spell and combat art damage. I also let them know when its done.</P> <P>Used with Aria you can really compound the damage. Additionally, aggro issues do not appear to be a problem when you're using the deaggro song. I'm in the all mage group on raids and they love the extra damage. They also love not dying because of it :smileyvery-happy:</P>

Sanju
04-18-2006, 06:16 PM
In raids, you can generally cast it as soon as you want. Just make a macro with a text message and /useability. No need for a 5-10s warning.In groups, either ask the tank to keep pulling back to you, since you'll be rooted, or just have him pull everything in sight and AE them down. (I like the latter method when combined with a couple AE classes and a good tank (Pally or Zerker is nice).If the tank runs off before PotM finishes, just cancel it.

MrCanoehead
04-18-2006, 06:21 PM
<P>Yep what Sanju said.</P> <P> </P> <P>For those complaining about the Troubs lack of DPS, this spell is the great equalizer if used correctly.  PotM followed by every debuff in your book followed by the instant cast bellow followed by CAs and now you are out DPSing other scout classes alot of the time.</P>

Warond
04-18-2006, 11:12 PM
PoM + debuff spam pwns <div></div>

ArrBa
04-19-2006, 11:39 AM
Umm doesn't PotM Root AND Stun you for the entire duration? If so, how can you use it and then debuff and nuke it? Or was this changed? Maybe i don't understand the convo.......oh well... <div></div>

Cygnu
04-19-2006, 12:03 PM
<P> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ArrBard wrote:<BR>Umm doesn't PotM Root AND Stun you for the entire duration? If so, how can you use it and then debuff and nuke it? Or was this changed? Maybe i don't understand the convo.......oh well...<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Yeah I remember seeing that somewhere but no, it just roots you.</P>

J
04-19-2006, 03:24 PM
Just roots. Auto attack does not work, but all your spells and combat arts work if you are in range.

Pins
04-19-2006, 05:29 PM
<blockquote><hr>ArrBard wrote:Umm doesn't PotM Root AND Stun you for the entire duration? If so, how can you use it and then debuff and nuke it? Or was this changed? Maybe i don't understand the convo.......oh well... <div></div><hr></blockquote> It roots, and pacifies you. Pacify meaning that you cannot auto-attack. Soo, just spam your Encounter-based 1s cast time AoEs, cancel them, cast them again as re-use cycles.

mook85az
04-20-2006, 01:43 AM
Ran some instances last night with the guild.  Pulled out PoM on any of the named guys, especially if they had friends.  The warlock and the conjuror in the group loved it.  I loved it.  Spammed my encounter debuffs and did a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]load of damage.  Between the three of us and the small contribution from the two priests, it procced more 50 times per use.  That's some stupid amounts of damage!  Something like 12,500 with the ad1.  I  need to upgrade this bad boy. <div></div>

Kaelos_
04-20-2006, 01:58 AM
<div></div>POM with capped int(510+) adept 1: 259-316 increase int by 54 adept 3: 302-369 increase int by 64 master 1: 345-422 increase int by 73 <div></div><p>Message Edited by Kaelos_CZ on <span class=date_text>04-19-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:01 PM</span>

Lazkr
04-21-2006, 07:31 PM
So has anyone else tried this with PotM? huge Troub DPS in AOE encounters.  Macro to group saying it is coming in 5 seconds....  Sing PotM  Cycle thru debuffs, when you get to Alins.. longer cast time, click off the previously encounter AoE debuffs, when Alins AoE hits re-sing the encoutner debuffs.  With Aria at M2 and with PotM added damage, you will see some crazy [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] troub damage.  granted if its a named or boss mob, i dont mess around with clicking off debuffs that have already stuck. But if its yard trash and its AoE... have a blast.  try this in PPR, to boost your ego if you have a DPS Complex. Lazician Troubador Faydark Befallen Clan of Shadows <div></div>

Godzmodi
04-22-2006, 03:38 PM
thats what i usually always do, and it works wonders. dont forget the debuff you got in bloodline too.<a href="http://eq2.ogaming.com/db/abilities/ZandersChoralRebuff.php" target=_blank><b>Zander's Choral Rebuff</b></a>   works too <div></div>

noogabooga
04-25-2006, 07:23 AM
<DIV>Cast Jester's Cap on urself b4 PotM = Ownz</DIV>

mook85az
04-27-2006, 09:26 PM
<blockquote><hr>Lazkraf wrote:So has anyone else tried this with PotM? huge Troub DPS in AOE encounters.  Macro to group saying it is coming in 5 seconds....  Sing PotM  Cycle thru debuffs, when you get to Alins.. longer cast time, click off the previously encounter AoE debuffs, when Alins AoE hits re-sing the encoutner debuffs.  With Aria at M2 and with PotM added damage, you will see some crazy [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] troub damage.  granted if its a named or boss mob, i dont mess around with clicking off debuffs that have already stuck. But if its yard trash and its AoE... have a blast.  try this in PPR, to boost your ego if you have a DPS Complex. Lazician Troubador Faydark Befallen Clan of Shadows <div></div><hr></blockquote>I've been experimenting with how to get the most casts off during PoM.  Here's what I found.  PoM then Bellow to go right after.  Then I just strum my fingers along the 4 encouter debuff hotkeys like I'm bored.  You know, what you would do on a table while waiting for someone who's [Removed for Content] you off a little. This means they are instantly canceled once up and something else is queued.  I get 14 or 15 casts like this.<div></div>