Mental resistant mobs

[kerel]

<div>What do the other raiding Troubs do on these mobs? Maestro in the Shimmering citadel raid completely immune to mental dmg, we have 2 atks that aren't mental and on this mob i find my self just standing in the bank slinging arrows as debuffs wouldn't even land on him. I also the the Gates of (whatever it is) has a mob that is immune to mental but he is also immune to peircing so slinging arrows and debuffs are out, guess i could go buy slashing/crushing arrows for him.</div>

[VericSauvari]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>kerel wrote:<div>What do the other raiding Troubs do on these mobs? Maestro in the Shimmering citadel raid completely immune to mental dmg, we have 2 atks that aren't mental and on this mob i find my self just standing in the bank slinging arrows as debuffs wouldn't even land on him. I also the the Gates of (whatever it is) has a mob that is immune to mental but he is also immune to peircing so slinging arrows and debuffs are out, guess i could go buy slashing/crushing arrows for him.</div><hr></blockquote>the gnoll is the mental immune one...i literally sit down for that raid.

[pera]

<div></div>Not too much we can do with this but just keep up our debuffs if you can.but there are a few of our combat arts that can be use here,<ul><li>Flanking attack</li><li>Stealth attack.</li><li>Auto attack ftw.</li></ul>Other than that your pretty much sol.I made a macro to use my stealth attack properly.  For some reason there is a 3 second delay between when stealth finishishes and stealth attack fires if the commands are on the same line, so yeah dont put them on the same line :-pLine 1)  /usea StealthLine 2)  /usea Startling Shriek (or what ever your stealth attack is at your level)(lvl49)This works pretty well for the most part it can be a little hairy to use solo, because if the mobs hits you in the 0.2 seconds that you are stealthed before Startling Shriek fires it breaks stealth and Startling Shriek fails to hit.It would be really great if there was a /pause of some kind, because then you could add a /attack on to the end of this macro, because if it breaks before startling shriek goes off your auto attack is turned off and yo uhave to turn it back on.  No big deal just an anoyance.   Also while using this macro you cant hit any other skills or abilites before startling shriek fires because it will mess up the queued spells. Startling shriek at master one normaly does between 600-1000 damage depending on the debuffs of the mob and my str.  Not a bad ability with a 2.2 cast time(with stealth) and a 10 second recast time.<div></div><p>Message Edited by perano on <span class="date_text">01-24-2006</span><span class="time_text">01:39 PM</span></p>

[Pins]

<div></div><p>Dinree, Magrick the Destroyer are Mental Immune in Gates.</p><p>Maestro of doohicky, Purple Piper, and Black Queen are Mental Immune in Court.</p><p>Urzyd the Undying and Terrorantula are the mental immune x4 contesteds <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p> </p><p>And yah, they blow [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn].</p>

[Shield6]

We just did Terrorantula on Sunday, I had no problems slinging debuffs and doin plenty of mental damge to it. Back in december I was lvl 52 or so and I assisted on him too because we were short, I got a lot resisted then, which I would chalk up that I was only 52 at that time.<div></div>

[pera]

I am very curious how you did this I was pretty sure Terror was highly resistant/immune to mental/magic.  Or maybe it was one or the other, maybe i'm thinking of a different mob.<div></div>

[Jehannum]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Pinski wrote:<div></div><p>Dinree, Magrick the Destroyer are Mental Immune in Gates.</p><p>Maestro of doohicky, Purple Piper, and Black Queen are Mental Immune in Court.</p><p>Urzyd the Undying and Terrorantula are the mental immune x4 contesteds <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p> </p><p>And yah, they blow [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn].</p><hr></blockquote><p>It'll have to wait until I get home and can check my parses, but I'd swear I'd dealt damage to Dinree and to Magrick both, and what with Magrick having that lovely, lovely AE I tend to stay at range there.  I know for a fact I've hit the Maestra of Dissonance and the Piper both with mental damage (and debuffs) though they may be resistant.  The queen I don't tend to try much so I'd have to check the parse to know for sure; I'm generally on add-mez duty.</p><p>I've told my guild if they're going to go after Terrorantula they can resign themselves to me standing at max buff range and picking my [Removed for Content].  At least that way I can claim to have accomplished <strong>something</strong>.  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[pera]

<span><blockquote><hr>Jehannum wrote:<div></div><p>I've told my guild if they're going to go after Terrorantula they can resign themselves to me standing at max buff range and picking my [Removed for Content].  At least that way I can claim to have accomplished <strong>something</strong>.  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><hr></blockquote>Digging for gold aye ?</span><div></div>

[Shield6]

Last night we owned terror again, I can confirm hat infact I did do damge to him. I debuffed at max range, ran in did two slash attacks then redebuffed and went to town. I did get resisted here and there but I always debuff whenever possible vs dps'n. All my debuffs are Adept3 so perhaps he was debuffed enough to do damage.<div></div>

[Pins]

<blockquote><hr>perano wrote:I am very curious how you did this I was pretty sure Terror was highly resistant/immune to mental/magic.  Or maybe it was one or the other, maybe i'm thinking of a different mob.<div></div><hr></blockquote>He's just immune/resistant to mental. As an Illusionist I face the same issues on these mobs as you, of course I pull out silly spells like Word of Force, Static Pulse(Level 3 Mage spell that I'm going to lose, boo), and Storm of Lightning(level 8 there). And just try to go to town, and do like 5-6k damage, maybe I'll invest in a piercing dagger and go to town on him, heh. But yah, it's not possible even with dispatch, rake, psyche, and any other debuffs on terror to do damage on him with mental.

[Shield6]

Everyone is saying he is mental immune. My question, how are my spells casting with full reuse timers and orange damage being displayed after I hit terror? Not 65 damage here and there I am talking 500-900. I know what I am seeing so how can his be.<div></div>

[VericSauvari]

<div>pretty sure terror is not mental immune..just resistant...throw in debuffs and he's less so</div>

[Sanju]

<div></div>Show a screenshot or parse log of mental damage hitting Terrorantula. (Every time I land a mental attack on him (i.e. one that doesn't get resisted) it's 'Your <attack> <i>fails to inflict any damage' == </i>immune. Regardless of how many debuffs he's got on him.)<div></div><p>Message Edited by Sanju on <span class="date_text">01-26-2006</span><span class="time_text">01:47 PM</span></p>

[pera]

what you probably are seeing is your ranged AA, and or, if you are casting spells even if you get the "Your <attack> <i>fails to inflict any damage"</i> you still have a chance to cause a proc even if the mob is imune to your weapon's damage type, most  melee and spell procs work this way.<div></div>

[Jehannum]

<div></div><div></div><p>I know I've received the message about Flawless Shrill (master 2, int well over the cap) hitting Terrorantula but "Failing to deal damage."  That generally says "mental-immune" to me if a 1k mental attack is dealing no damage at all.  I get the same message from every tick of Kian's, when it actually lands (I'm presuming the -wis component lands, but who knows really?)</p><p>I've never seen a mental attack deal damage to him, though I've procced other people's effects; Guviena does nothing, Courtly does nothing, and while some of the debuffs land it's questionable how much effect they have, other than Zander which definitely helps a bit.</p><p>Edit - I've definitely seen the cobalt/prismatic proc off the bowshot, so I agree that that's more likely the source of any damage dealt by a troub at range.</p><p>Message Edited by Jehannum on <span class="date_text">01-27-2006</span><span class="time_text">12:18 PM</span></p>

[ForgottenFoundling]

<div></div>We *might* be able to squeeze some mental damage out after the mob has been mentally debuffed and dispatched.  I haven't had the opportunity to try it out because the only time my guild killed terror, I was gone.  I will make a concerted effort to watch things in Court next week to see if some damage squeeks by.

[Ibunubi]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Pinski wrote:<div></div><p>Dinree, Magrick the Destroyer are Mental Immune in Gates.</p><p>Maestro of doohicky, Purple Piper, and Black Queen are Mental Immune in Court.</p><p>Urzyd the Undying and Terrorantula are the mental immune x4 contesteds <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p> </p><p>And yah, they blow [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn].</p><hr></blockquote>Pinski listed all the mobs in DoF. Immunities to a particular resist block any and all damage of that resist type. You can raid debuff them fully but you will never do mental damage. A better wording is "mental *damage* immune." Debuffs, when/if you land them, will stick for the duration and still debuff whatever they are supposed to debuff because they do not continually deal damage. Like your Kians line, the wisdom debuff will stick, but the damage portion will have no effect. ... And your Lore's and snare debuffs will land no matter which mob you fight because they are completely unresistable.

[Kraks_Aforty]

No mobs will be completely immune to anything soon, so this post is kinda pointless now.<div></div>