Where are all the Troubador masters?

[SureShot]

<DIV>I play a 60 troubador on Mistmoore.  The guild I'm in raids nightly, and we have several groups farming PP, Cazels, Roost several times a day.  I have noticed what seems to me to be a very real lack of troubador master spell drops from raid targets and these instances, as compared to our dirge counterparts.  Looking in the guild bank, I swear we have about 5 dirge masters rotting away because we have only one dirge, and he has the spells already.  In the last five months, there has been only ONE troub master to drop....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Looking on the broker twice a day, it's sad how few masters are for sale on the Qeynos and Freeport brokers.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Last night with all the masters dropping, it seems every class was blessed with muliple masters, I got to say grats to other folks so many times it made me sick!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyone else notice this trend?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[3dprophet]

<P>I too see a lack of 50-60 troubador master on my server Steamfont.  Heck I even see a lack of Adept1.  I hit lvl 60 a week ago and still dont have Adept1 of my lvl 60 spells.  I have been checking guild bank, broker and blackmarket regularly</P> <P>-Felicity<smoke></P> <P>60 Troubador Steamfont</P>

[3dprophet]

<P>I too see a lack of 50-60 troubador master on my server Steamfont.  Heck I even see a lack of Adept1.  I hit lvl 60 a week ago and still dont have Adept1 of my lvl 60 spells.  I have been checking guild bank, broker and blackmarket regularly</P> <P>-Felicity<smoke></P> <P>60 Troubador Steamfont</P>

[SureShot]

Let me guess....Balletic Avoidance Adept I?

[Heretike]

<DIV>You are aware of the fact that some spells don't come as Adept1?</DIV>

[ForgottenFoundling]

<P>So far the only t6 troubie masters I've seen are:</P> <P>-Guviena's (lvl 51 mental debuff)</P> <P>-Alin's (lvl 52 hate reducer) (got this one)</P> <P>-Awesome Bellow (lvl 54 interrupt spell) (got this one)</P> <P>-Purloin Essence (lvl 54 life -> power tap) (dropped for guild last night - server discovery)</P> <P>-Dove Song (lvl 59 caster stat increaser) (dropped in PP a month or so ago, other troubie in my guild got it)</P> <DIV>-Requiem of Reflection (lvl 52 reflect spell that doesn't do much) </DIV><p>Message Edited by ForgottenFoundling on <span class=date_text>12-01-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:46 AM</span>

[ForgottenFoundling]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Heretikeen wrote:<BR> <DIV>You are aware of the fact that some spells don't come as Adept1?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I can't think of any...  The "Ancient" spells drop as adept 1, so I can't see which ones you'd mean.

[Sanju]

Give it time, with master spells still dropping like candy it won't take long for the market to get flooded with masters for all classes. <span>:smileysad:</span> <div></div>

[kerel]

WIth yesterday's batch of master drop i have seen more 50+ troub master than i ever did 1-50.....on a side note i think the metals were landing on peoples heads cause they are being just ignorant about pricing on permafrost (27pp for courtly blade), most of the rest are around 13pp <div></div>

[Balmung of the Azure Sky]

<DIV>I have brias and courtly blade master 1 on unrest. havent heard nor seen any others on the server yet. should be more as time unfolds though so im not too bummed as of yet</DIV>

[Belisarius]

I got the lvl 52 stat buff master today, +65 str/sta <p>Message Edited by Belisarius on <span class=date_text>12-02-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:03 AM</span>

[WooTast]

In spite of all of the master drops, I've seen ONE master on a broker (also for a silly price), and a guildy gave me one.  My server's economy certainly wasnt changed with respect to troub. masters by the short flood. <div></div>

[Ballads]

<div></div>Hmm ive gotten biras,quirons,percison,dove,awsome,another troub in guild got guvien'asbow skill and pilfer essence is on broker for 16 plat .  So there out there keep farming  id bet most dont make it out of guild for the most part id be [Removed for Content] if a guildy didnt give me first stab at any master rune  Btw percision owns 72 int and procs for about 400 with int close to cap  Ballad 60 troubador grobb <div></div><p>Message Edited by pickle27 on <span class=date_text>12-02-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:49 AM</span>

[Dali]

Well, I compared the Adept3 PotM with the Master 1, and there doesn't seem to be much of a difference:- 9 INT more- +7 to lower end of the damage scale- +7 to the higher end of the damage scaleAlthough there's one on my server for 5p right now, I wouldn't consider it an upgrade to the Adept3 I have now (at least not one worth spending the cash on).

[ForgottenFoundling]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Dalinn wrote:<BR>Well, I compared the Adept3 PotM with the Master 1, and there doesn't seem to be much of a difference:<BR><BR>- 9 INT more<BR>- +7 to lower end of the damage scale<BR>- +7 to the higher end of the damage scale<BR><BR>Although there's one on my server for 5p right now, I wouldn't consider it an upgrade to the Adept3 I have now (at least not one worth spending the cash on).<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Funny, mine was about +30 on the low side and around +70 on the high end.</DIV>

[Belisarius]

<DIV>They are out there. So far i've managed to get Guviena's, Purloin, Stats, Flawless, Eiles. I saw reflection up for sell, i'm not about to buy that pos though. I do look faward to the PoM master though.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Purlion master though, its worthless IMO. Does like 386 dmg I think.<BR></DIV>

[AzulCeles]

<div></div><p>Same problem on Befallen server. The few Troubie masters that are up on merchants (53 plat anyone?) are few. None of the troubadours I've pinged have seen the Balletic Avoidance master yet.</p><p>Why is a class with such awesome roleplaying ability and service to group get the short end of the stick every time? Eh??</p>

[ForgottenFoundling]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Belisarius wrote:<div> </div><div>The Purlion master though, its worthless IMO. Does like 386 dmg I think.</div><hr></blockquote><p> </p><p>Don't use it for damage, but instead a way to regen power.  It's like a fast refresh manastone that damages the mob instead of you.  I'm able to keep all my debuffs up and not go OOP in long fights using my regen, items, manastone, purloin and occasionally vessel. </p><p>Power may not be an issue for you if your guild kills things super fast, but to those that aren't in that boat, it's a nice boost.</p>

[Bartimaeus]

<div>On Highkeep there are not many Troubadors, and there are many many masters on the broker. However, I personally have only seen maybe 3 drop in our guild (One was a double, what are the odds)</div><div> </div><div>My guess its just bad luck within the guild, since I have managed to pick up most of our buffs master 1 and debuffs from the broker.</div><div> </div><div>Dont think SoE has any personal Vendetta against troubadors though, maybe coercers, but not troubadors <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

[missing_peace]

<div><blockquote><hr>ForgottenFoundling wrote:<div><blockquote><hr>Dalinn wrote:Well, I compared the Adept3 PotM with the Master 1, and there doesn't seem to be much of a difference:- 9 INT more- +7 to lower end of the damage scale- +7 to the higher end of the damage scaleAlthough there's one on my server for 5p right now, I wouldn't consider it an upgrade to the Adept3 I have now (at least not one worth spending the cash on).<hr></blockquote>Funny, mine was about +30 on the low side and around +70 on the high end.</div><hr></blockquote>The damage appears to scale based on your intelligence.  This brings up something that i've been wondering about for some time.  Precision and Aria both scale with your intelligence.  Does the damage from this proc from other group members scale with THEIR intelligence or with YOUR intelligence?</div><div> </div><div> </div>

[Bartimaeus]

<div></div>That is the question. . . .

[Mulilla]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>tavernx wrote:<div><blockquote>The damage appears to scale based on your intelligence.  This brings up something that i've been wondering about for some time.  Precision and Aria both scale with your intelligence.  Does the damage from this proc from other group members scale with THEIR intelligence or with YOUR intelligence?</blockquote></div><div><hr></div></blockquote>AFAIK it is based on your INT not the group mates.  Dind't test it so much, but i'm quite sure it is that way (could be wrong, of course <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />)

[Jehannum]

<div>Precision and Aria proc damage based on the troubadour's intelligence, not that of their groupmates.  In fact it's slightly bugged, in that if you have maxed int when you start Aria, then lose int, the proc remains at its maxed level.  I don't use that consciously, but if I get int-debuffed at least I know Aria's still hitting hard.  One thing I'm not sure about is whether Precision's int-buff gets applied before or after the proc is set.  In one case it'd be safe to run int well below the cap, while in the other it'd be ideal to be maxed, personally at least, before casting Precision.</div>