Anyone else feel...

[KineticMu]

<DIV>That we're at the bottom of the totem pole for getting updated/fixed? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The middle of the day Saturday I did....</DIV> <DIV>/who all Troubador (there were 10)</DIV> <DIV>and</DIV> <DIV>/who all Dirge (there were 22)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The middle of the evening Saturday I did....</DIV> <DIV>/who all Troubador (there were 13)</DIV> <DIV>and</DIV> <DIV>/who all Dirge (there were 1<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Other classes have low numbers also. I don't think we'll get fixed, get runspeed, get agility unnerfed... etc for a very, very long time. Sorry to be so pessimistic but even toghether like 32 bards asking for fixes and then there are 500 Guardians asking for fixes... whos happiness is worth more money?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Belisarius]

<DIV>/agree</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>No one cares.... I am thankful when I get a group and feel bad when they take me... I hurt the group vs any other class they could have</DIV>

[Xanus]

I'm a 50 dirge so take this with a grain of salt. I just had our LONG list of dirge issues get addressed by blackguard in our forums under the thread "Dirge issues need looking into". One of the reasons I feel that we got a response is because I took the time to go thru each one of our abilities and post a concise descriptive and informative veiw of what the abilities do, why they are mechanically not sound to the game, what skills are broken, AND how the devs could address the issue without imbalancing the class. One of the reasons you guys may not be getting a response is because you do not have a thread listing the problems with your skills(totally all in one place) and generally have just whined over the issues rather than be constructive about it. Here's a suggestion. Read my post and then formulate a troubador post detailing all your skills along the same lines. Be specific point out problematic areas. Tell the devs what the skills are supposed to do and why you feel they don't function in a meaningful way. Offer solutions, don't just whine. Be reasonable. Don't ask for huge things that you know would be imbalancing. Many of the issues I brought up in our thread would also affect you guys to so you may yet see some benefit from the thread I posted.Don't make it some Troubador wish list type thread. The devs don't have time right now to be adding new content like new spells and stuff. Offer them solutions on how to fix your current abilities. Tell them why they need to fix them. Don't just say we are broken and I can't solo blue mobs. They need to know what exactly is wrong with your abilities.Don't flame me for saying this. I'm just trying to help you guys out here. Read my post if you need pointers on how to formulate a brief concise listing of your abilities and the changes they need to make to them for you be to effective. Heck I'd write the thread up for you myself but I honestly don't have experience with some of your abilities. you're probably better off having a lvl 50 troubador who is level headed do a concise write up like I did.<p>Message Edited by Xanusus on <span class=date_text>02-20-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:05 PM</span>

[Eaaq]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> KineticMuse wrote:<BR> <DIV>That we're at the bottom of the totem pole for getting updated/fixed? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The middle of the day Saturday I did....</DIV> <DIV>/who all Troubador (there were 10)</DIV> <DIV>and</DIV> <DIV>/who all Dirge (there were 22)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The middle of the evening Saturday I did....</DIV> <DIV>/who all Troubador (there were 13)</DIV> <DIV>and</DIV> <DIV>/who all Dirge (there were 1<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Other classes have low numbers also. I don't think we'll get fixed, get runspeed, get agility unnerfed... etc for a very, very long time. Sorry to be so pessimistic but even toghether like 32 bards asking for fixes and then there are 500 Guardians asking for fixes... whos happiness is worth more money?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>wow..l. what server you play on : ?<BR>

[Belisarius]

<DIV>There ya go Xan, I bumped our old thread that never got looked into up.</DIV>

[KineticMu]

<DIV>I play on everfrost, it is a lower population server as it is though. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks for the suggestions about creating a more comprehensive list. I think there was one, I'll go check since someone said they did a bump. </DIV>