Broken Troubador Spells and Abilities

[Kraks_Aforty]

<DIV>The following aren't working as their description explains them:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lore's Magniloquent Roust - As far as I can tell, if you go above Apprentice IV the power drain component is removed from the spell entirely.  I've also never seen it give me an increase in agility.  Can't be sure about the -defense debuff portion of the spell, but it does seem to be working somewhat.  This is true for Adept 1 and Adept 3 for certain.  I've also never personally witnessed it Stifle a mob since upgraded to Adept 1 or Adept 3.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Bria's Exalting Ballad - Adept 1 and Adept 3 appear to do the exact same power regen.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Raxxyl's Vivacious Descant - Adept 1 and Adept 3 have differences in some areas, however the parry component and AC component are not functioning and are the same at Adept 1 and Adept 3.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lullaby - I've never once witnessed this spell last the duration at App 1 - 4 and Adept 1.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Eli's Thunderous Anthem - Why is this worse at Adept 1 than Apprentice IV Exquisite Shrill?  I can cast Exquisite Shrill on the run and from a great distance, whereas this spell I have to be still and cast right next to the mob.  If this is working it just plain old fashioned sucks.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Aria of Exaltation - Adept 1 to Adept 3 appear to do very minimal increased damage if at all.  This one is very hard to test, as you can imagine.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Swan Song - Is this really an upgrade to Songster's Luck and that line of spells?  If so, where is the + to caster damage component?  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyhow, I imagine you all see the point.  There is a plethora of broken troubador spells and abilities out there.  Would be great to finally get some response from Devs about looking into this.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Kraks_Aforty on <span class=date_text>01-31-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:40 AM</span>

[Seth]

<DIV>Daeli's Dance of Blades : Drain mana of the troub when it interup enemy (lot of mana). It make this spell useless.</DIV>

[Aviral]

<DIV>Posted this at scout sanctuary.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ministration is skill used for healing and cure and with regen song being so weak with my current skill of 100/162 makes me think this song is bugged. <BR><BR>And Subjugation seem like the skill we should be using for Charm and Mez but has never gone up either since lvl 20 <BR><BR>Elisi's Ditty and possible any others after that have a proc interupt is of no use. Currently it stops you from procing the proc song and for every proc now at lvl 32 takes about 5% of my power randomly when it goes off. Would think it should not use any power to proc when we have no control over it and it cost power to put song up for 3 minutes. As of right now I use Perf Talent to avoid the power loss and proc loss with less agi. <BR><BR>Also more scout originated the Dirty tricks lvl 10 upgrade trait is only lasting like 15 seconds compared to the 35 seconds it has a timer for in Maintain buffs window. <BR></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=postbody>Lorre's Snapping Sonnet also seems to be bugged but not sure havne't tested it alot but using on lvl 20 goblins in antonica i seemed to be hitting better using the lvl 10 trait debuff then this though not fully test atm might be something to watch.</SPAN></DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[SingleTra]

<DIV>for Subjigation skill, use the lvl 40  bellow.  It raises that skill.</DIV>

[Aviral]

<DIV> <DIV>The problem with <SPAN class=postbody>Breathtaking Bellow raising that skill though is it is a disruption skill not subjugation which is a bug for using wrong skill and you don't get it till 20 lvls after we get subjugation skill so if under lvl 40 you can't do what you suggested. That is a long time between when we get charm song (subjugation) and not being able to use it to full potential for 19 lvls as we go up.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>

[SingleTra]

<DIV>Just trying to help bud.  And when do you think they will actually come around to fixing everything broken with bards?  You will be lvl 50 and playing an alt.</DIV>

[Kraks_Aforty]

<DIV>I file several bug reports and feedback every single day.  If its up to me, they'll get it fixed sooner rather than later.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Aviral]

<SPAN class=postbody></SPAN> <DIV>Just got lvl 33 last night and found <SPAN class=postbody>Walt's Thirsting Thrust is not giving a haste buff like taffo's </SPAN></DIV>

[Aviral]

<DIV>With the new changes to mobs stats they have a huge power pool. This causes a problem for us with our power taps. Either they need power drain upped or mobs power needs to be lowered.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Fighting in RE before patch Clay insurgent (named with 4 adds) lvl 34 i could drain just fine before he got to 50% hps after patch i didn't even get him to 70% power using nothing but power taps all of them at lvl 33 all adept except new taffo's replacement attack before he died. This is with me doing nothing but taps on one mob while everyone else killed the 4 adds and named. Group was 3 healer, guardian and necro. This needs looked at if not why give us power taps i would rather have the HP taps so i do damage to a mob instead of wasting 3 seconds to do nothing at all.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also we need a upgrade to evade the encounter dot detaunt is almost impossible to use unless you not running all conc slots open cuz once you get aggro i have very hard time getting rid of it even with evade and not attacking.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Albri]

Alin's Melodic Refrain App IV is broken. Had one made, scribed it. It did not replace App I in my book, in fact has a different icon - a lute with a green background.When I try to use the App IV version I get a "You must be stealthed to use this" message. =PTried to use it while stealthed, still didn't seem to work.

[duc7]

<DIV>Have to chime in here on Elise's Ditty as well. Everytime this things procs ( which is about 6-8 times a solo fight ) it takes about 5%-6% of power each time it does proc.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Add that to doing HO's and after one fight over half of my power pool is gone, which makes this spell useless.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV><p>Message Edited by duc748 on <span class=date_text>02-03-2005</span> <span class=time_text>03:38 AM</span>

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<DIV>deleted</DIV><p>Message Edited by Aviralis on <span class=date_text>02-04-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:32 PM</span>

[Aviral]

<DIV>deleted </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><p>Message Edited by Aviralis on <span class=date_text>02-04-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:32 PM</span>

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<DIV>List of Problems I found.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>1. Alin's Keening Lamentation and Melodic Refrain.</DIV> <DIV>                    Requires 3 seconds to cast (no problem) but why takes 3 seconds of down time before i can do any more fighting.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2. Walk Lightly and Mala's Silent Hymm</DIV> <DIV>                   Doesn't work in combat. No speed difference between lightly and the upgrade</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>3. Luck Blade and upgrades</DIV> <DIV>                   No way to quick stealth not worth using except at beginning of combat. Suggest make it like Taffo's line where ya eed to be behind the mob to hit it or give us a fast stealth.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>4. Bria's entrancing Sonnet</DIV> <DIV>                   No way to raise Subjugation skill till lvl 40 by a broken spell at that. This song should be raising it not ordination.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>5.Aria of Excitement</DIV> <DIV>                   Possible doesn't stack with other proc buffs, Know for sure it doesn't stack with elise's ditty.</DIV> <DIV>                   Low amount of procs for song for self at least maybe others, see maybe 1 to 2 procs in 3 solo fights not worth slot </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>6. Lore's Snapping sonnet</DIV> <DIV>                  Deplete power part needs to happen at start of song not when it leaves since this is often replaced everytime we do a ho wheel or make it deplete when refreshed.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>7. Raxxyl's energizing Harmony</DIV> <DIV>                 The increase hate with encounter part is not a good description. Does it do it when you are fighting or only when you buff and what is point if only when buff?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>8. Alin's soothing Serenade</DIV> <DIV>                  dot detaunt is good, bad part con slot. almost forcing to use evade which doesn't work at higher lvls. recommend removing con slot requirement and maybe upping power for that reason or shorter duration.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>9. Fulgent Blade/Dazzling Blade</DIV> <DIV>                   Scribing book problems with these. Fulgent is also 2 attacks where Dazzling is 1 attack that is 2 times as strong why have these 2 attacks just dazzling blade is needed as it is the upgrade to sparkling.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>10. Eli's thunderous Hymm and upgrades.</DIV> <DIV>                   Can't move like shriek line, and smaller range, and less damage. Request different song in place as i hardly use these.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>11. elise's ditty and upgrades </DIV> <DIV>                      Proc portion of song interfers with other proc buffs, and proc also drains additional power each time it goes off for a proc that isn't worth it. Making us deal with no procs or more power drain just ot have agi or use performers talent the lower version of this.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>12. Gerand's and Luda's</DIV> <DIV>                    Book names scribing problem</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>13. Swindle Essence </DIV> <DIV>                    All but useless with the upped power pools of npc's. Ex. enchanter and me could not drain Insurgent in Runnyeye before tank and 2 healers kill the 4 adds he was at about 70% by time named insurgent died he was at 25% power and all we did was power tap.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>14. Quiron's and hp regen line</DIV> <DIV>                22-24 hp regen a tick at 30 to 32. seems like should be using ministration skill but doesn't ministration is unraiseable at 100/172 atm for me</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>15. Walt's thirsting thrust</DIV> <DIV>                  No haste componets. Taffo's use to be same way but got fixed this isn't. and if our purpose is to drain power 20 power drain atm is not very much for a drain componet on this song.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>16. Mental debuff of Dazzling blade still showing on maintained bar even if it is resisted.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>17. no tested by me but Breathtaking Bellow supposedly raises subjugation skill when it is a disruption skill based song.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>18. Power regen songs bria's seems weak. 3 minutes with minimal effect. only usefull in long fights. i personally only use this if in long named fight and healers are almost to 20% power</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>19. suggestion make going stealth turn off attack.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>20 Request a Bard selo's song that works exactly like sprint starting at lvl 10ish at sprint speed  and progressively getting faster as we level where lvl 50 is like double sprint speed. Basically a Bard replacement to sprint</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Raptis 34.5 Troubador Mistmoore</DIV><p>Message Edited by Aviralis on <span class=date_text>02-04-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:05 PM</span>