cuz I'm a thug (big image)

[Seiden]

bored waiting for a labs raid d=<img src="http://www.paleghost.com/images/thug.jpg">

[Goodwill]

<DIV>you look great <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </DIV>

[skidmark]

except for the hat<div></div>

[Keleran]

And being a rat.Was I the only one who looked at that bp and had a flashback to the EQ1 half-elven man-[Removed for Content] armor?

[The-Fourm-Pirate]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Seiden wrote:<BR>bored waiting for a labs raid d=<BR><IMG src="http://www.paleghost.com/images/thug.jpg"><BR><BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Hooloh hat, wind worked hauberk, nemesis gloves and bracers, xegonite pants, those funny shoulders from BSS, feet of Spykrachis, and I think your sword is blade of the bixies.<BR>It's pretty sad I know all of those drops just by look <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</P>

[Seiden]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>The-Fourm-Pirate wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Seiden wrote:bored waiting for a labs raid d=<img src="http://www.paleghost.com/images/thug.jpg"> <hr> </blockquote> <p>Hooloh hat, wind worked hauberk, nemesis gloves and bracers, xegonite pants, those funny shoulders from BSS, feet of Spykrachis, and I think your sword is blade of the bixies.It's pretty sad I know all of those drops just by look <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</p><hr></blockquote>yep, I got some relic shoulders and a better rating sword for when my str get maxed out in groups. And yea the tunic is not very pretty, but the mit is nice for a treasured.</div><p>Message Edited by Seiden on <span class=date_text>08-18-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:58 PM</span>

[Gyilok]

<P><IMG src="http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1250/eq2000029sd2.jpg"></P> <P> </P> <P>this is what a real thug looks like, just so you know</P>

[Jida]

whats the sword?<blockquote><hr>Gyilok wrote:<div></div> <p></p> <p>this is what a real thug looks like, just so you know</p><hr></blockquote><div></div>

[Gyilok]

<DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=items&message.id=80469" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=items&message.id=80469</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>the one on the right</DIV>

[kyth]

    It looks too good to have that junk DR =(<div></div>

[Gyilok]

post that in the other thread damit

[kyth]

    i made my post in that other thread already...<div></div>

[Lein]

<P><IMG src="http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h13/Rathel/EQ2_000287-1.jpg"></P> <P> </P> <P>That is a real thug.</P>

[Gyilok]

thats a wannabe ranger in [Removed for Content] green

[kyth]

    In eq2 a real thug has very little armor that actually matches.  Also a real thug will have tons of colors such as red,blue, pink, green, and purple.  Yes that is what a true eq2 thug would look like....<div></div>

[Gyilok]

sadly, my light pink boots and [Removed for Content] blue helmet are not visible, but the rest is mismatching enough

[Riversideblues]

green boots, red pants/shoulders/bracers, blue gloves, grey bp, black hat....im not much better....(nemesis sets on brigands ftl!!!!)<div></div>

[maxter]

Well, I tend to lurk around here way more than post as you can see from my post count, but I thought it would be fun to add my thug to the list. <a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n114/rpharris/vosu.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting"></a>

[The-Fourm-Pirate]

Why is it that every other brigand can get nemesis boots to drop <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />?

[Snarks]

<div><blockquote><hr>The-Fourm-Pirate wrote:<div></div>Why is it that every other brigand can get nemesis boots to drop <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />?<hr></blockquote>qft, in all our runs they've dropped once for us :p</div>

[Snarks]

<div><blockquote><hr>Gyilok wrote:<div></div> <p>http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1250/eq2000029sd2.jpg</p> <p>this is what a real thug looks like, just so you know</p><hr></blockquote>serrated sword of retribution, harshell shoulderpads, bracers of the codex, reinforced bloodsoaked gloves, draconic boneweave bp, relic pants(?), and that little glint of white that i think comes from your boots suggests clawed basilisk boots? nemesis hood or arcane enchanted coif.. no graphic so cant tell <img src="/smilies/1069449046bcd664c21db15b1dfedaee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />going to go out on a limb and guess jewelryMoA, earcog, ring of 4 winds, imbued str, dt access haste bracelet, dragonscale bracelet, sash of the sky???????????i wish there was more scout gear<span>:smileysad:</span></div>

[Gyilok]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> snarkteeth wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gyilok wrote:<BR> <P>http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1250/eq2000029sd2.jpg<BR></P> <P>this is what a real thug looks like, just so you know</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>serrated sword of retribution, harshell shoulderpads, bracers of the codex, reinforced bloodsoaked gloves, draconic boneweave bp, relic pants(?), and that little glint of white that i think comes from your boots suggests clawed basilisk boots? nemesis hood or arcane enchanted coif.. no graphic so cant tell <img src="/smilies/1069449046bcd664c21db15b1dfedaee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR><BR>going to go out on a limb and guess jewelry<BR><BR>MoA, earcog, ring of 4 winds, imbued str, dt access haste bracelet, dragonscale bracelet, sash of the sky???????????<BR><BR>i wish there was more scout gear<SPAN>:smileysad:</SPAN><BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>hah not that many mistakes, but yea why would anyone else wear different</P> <P>gloves are leather, so not reinforced, [Removed for Content] blue helmet= arcane enchanted coif, mist imbued hoop for heavy int (not all can get turtle tooth damit), and ring of the east wind instead of imbued atm, oldschool doomslayer belt (from the first lab run heh)</P> <P>rest is correct</P>

[ramglobaltx]

FYI Real thugs play on a pvp server.  Never know how good you are until you play against mobs that think. -Lenny, 70 Brigand Nagafen <div></div>

[Gyilok]

always laugh my [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] off when people think they are cooler just because they play on pvp, well you are not

[ramglobaltx]

<blockquote><hr>Gyilok wrote:<div></div>always laugh my [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] off when people think they are cooler just because they play on pvp, well you are not<hr></blockquote>I really didn't mean that as an insult.  You guys are obviously so knowledgable about the game and a class I've learned to love and just wonder why sometimes it doesn't interest you guys to test your ability against other folks.  I apologize if that came off sounding bad, was really a tongue in cheek kind of thing.  -Lenny, 70 Brigand Nagafen<div></div>

[ibeo]

<IMG src="http://i7.tinypic.com/25845zc.jpg">

[Gyilok]

started some chars on pvp but didnt get past lvl 10 on either, sucks even more then on non pvp alts since i can atleast send some cash to those, just plain turned me off to have app1 skills, trash gear and a few coppers, prices are just plain [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ing silly to buy anything, for some its ok, but i rather spend time to stay on my main which i started when eq2 launched

[ibeo]

<DIV>ya most pvpers seem to be new to the game...we have been playing for over a 1 1/2 ...why drop it all? ...for me first non pvp game i have really played...and i don't care for this games pvp...it is very unbalanced imho...happy as is ty</DIV>

[The-Fourm-Pirate]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ramglobaltx wrote:<BR>FYI Real thugs play on a pvp server.  Never know how good you are until you play against mobs that think. <BR><BR>-Lenny, 70 Brigand <BR>Nagafen<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Yeah cause Brigands are soooo hard to PvP with. TBH I have no respect for anyone who is playing a Brigand on PvP, at least try to challenge yourself.

[verydanger]

I have no intrest whatsoever to fight other players in a game like this. Thats what shooters/strategy/etc games are for, and I cant bear playing 5 minutes against AI opponents in such games. MMORPG's however are quite different the way I see it.Lemme ask, how many PvP fights of all that go down happen on 'equal' terms? By that I mean:Not attacking players significantly below your own levelNot attacking a smaller group with a bigger groupNot ganking someone who is otherwise engaged or vulnerableNot attacking a class that your class clearly has an advantage againstNot attacking someone with inferior gearNot involving whatever other cheapshots the game allowsTo me challenging other players is all about the 'fair' matchup and sportsmanship. I'm not saying that cant exist in MMORPG PvP, just that most people who play it simply dont care about it.Not to mention PvP seems to attract a younger crowd, and thats cool, but I'll always prefer the more mature crowd in what I consider a first and foremost social game like this.Well this got horribly off-topic, keep them sexy ratonga pics coming! I'd post a pic of me but nobody wants to see my sorry xegonite [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]. :p<div></div>

[The-Fourm-Pirate]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ramglobaltx wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Yeah cause Brigands are soooo hard to PvP with. TBH I have no respect for anyone who is playing a Brigand on PvP, at least try to challenge yourself.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>How would you know? And by the way, playing any class on PVP is a challenge.  All you know is what you're regurgitating from someone else.  I love how everyone thinks the Brig is the most overpowered class in the game.  We are just an all around scout class with a lot of utility which in and of itself makes us a very good class.  The fact is, like several classes in PVP I can't find a group while solo'ing and pick off a member by hitting someone with about 5k damage in one shot and evac'ing off.  Oh TBH I have no respect for anyone who doesn't PVP and at least try to challenge yourself.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Both Rogue and Predator classes are absolutley built for PvPing. We have invis, a free see stealth, loads of dps, a few really good stuns, good enough survivability to not die as quickly as mages, I PvPed in SWG as a Carbineer/Creature Handler, the two most worthless PvP classes in the game and I still did pretty well. Brigands aren't the most overpowered class and not the best one shot killers by a longshot, but Brigands are still easy as hell to play on a PvP server compared to other classes.</P> <P>The fact you can go in and 2 or 3 shot kill people (I doubt you can kill anyone, even a mage in one shot) and evac off then invis and hide until evac is back up is pretty much proof that it takes no real skill to play a Brigand on PvP, no more skill than a Brigand on PvE.</P>

[ramglobaltx]

<blockquote><hr>The-Fourm-Pirate wrote:<div></div><blockquote><div></div> <hr> </blockquote> <p>Both Rogue and Predator classes are absolutley built for PvPing. We have invis, a free see stealth, loads of dps, a few really good stuns, good enough survivability to not die as quickly as mages, I PvPed in SWG as a Carbineer/Creature Handler, the two most worthless PvP classes in the game and I still did pretty well. Brigands aren't the most overpowered class and not the best one shot killers by a longshot, but Brigands are still easy as hell to play on a PvP server compared to other classes.</p> <p>The fact you can go in and <font color="#ff0000"><b>2 or 3 shot kill people </b></font>(I doubt you can kill anyone, even a mage in one shot) and evac off then invis and hide until evac is back up is pretty much proof that it takes no real skill to play a Brigand on PvP, no more skill than a Brigand on PvE.</p><hr></blockquote>Maybe a mage, but even with a mage, wizard's have manaskin, which makes them untouchable for a bit.  Your post is really only proof that you don't really know what your talking about when it comes to pvp, you just can't comment in a accurate way if you haven't played on a pvp server through end game.  Frankly, if you want to be any good, you have to be very skilled at whatever class you play on our server.  It's just like anything else you have maybe 10% of the folks that play each class that are really worth their salt in pvp, and that applies across the board despite which class you play.  Case in point, you playing a worthless class on SWG and maintaining that you still did well.  <div></div>

[ramglobaltx]

<blockquote><hr>Gyilok wrote:<div></div>you didnt experience it, because you obviously arent close to getting MY sword or bracers, which you cant buy in the city for points you can farm on clueless noobs, so better shut up<hr></blockquote>LOL....look at me...I'm a robot...I go kill mobs....I manage aggro....push buttons....loot chests....fun times.<div></div>

[serialxv]

<blockquote><hr>Dragonsviperz wrote:<div></div> <p>I'm not a huge fan of PvP, just because I like soloing sometimes while playing an alt, and soloing in my experience while on PvP servers = not good. </p> <p>Plus, I did play an exile, and anyone who has played/plays an exile at a low level and continues to play as an exile, I have much respect for.</p> <p>One thing that does bother me about PvP'ers though, is that they say PvP makes raiding harder. I don't see how PvP can affect anyone in an instance. I can maybe see it affecting Hurricanus, MO, and the Princes, but nothing else.</p><hr></blockquote>I solo my alts alot on pvp.  It's a challenge at times but there's alot more soloing than you seem to think.  I hit one on one fights more often than groups.   Mind you, if I'm solo and starting to feel outnumbered by the groups, its easy enough to join a pvp group or if I'm really not feeling like pvp'ing going into splitpaw for an hour until I'm feeling more social. The raiding is more difficult on a PvP server.  Contested can mean all out battles and alot of fun if you can deal with the lag.  12 groups going at one site yesterday; over a cube mob, no less. There are a great number of choke points (clouds and spires) in KoS.  If you find out a rival guild is moving, you can pretty much stop them from getting to their nice cosy safe instanced zone until you get bored.   And unless you are an exile, you don't have access to all the different classes when forming up your raids; classes that many of the PvE guilds use and rely on are just not available to us.  Q's whine about not having brigs <span>:smileywink:  </span> <div></div>

[Mr_Gone76]

A lot of my old rading guild switched to a PvP server. There were some that didnt want too becuase of the time they invested into there PvE toons. I quite playing about 2 months before PvP servers went live, but came back to try PvP. And I'll tell you that PvP is so freaking awesome. Yes you will get ganked, yes you will die and yes you have to start a new toon that has no access to any plat. The only other time I have ever had such a rush from this game is from the first few times of taking down an epic mob, but then after that it loses it's thrill. But I guess some people need the carebear environment... I know I do miss being able to go afk pretty much any where I like, but it was worth it to lose that privilege. Plus when EQ3 comes out are poeple going to stay with EQ2 with the attitude that "I have too much time invested in this toon"? I think a lot of people would move on.

[Gyilok]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ramglobaltx wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gyilok wrote:<BR> you didnt experience it, because you obviously arent close to getting MY sword or bracers, which you cant buy in the city for points you can farm on clueless noobs, so better shut up<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>LOL....look at me...I'm a robot...I go kill mobs....I manage aggro....push buttons....loot chests....fun times.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>so you kill players that dont stand a chance, dont manage agro, just push buttons, dont loot chests, and when you got enough points you go to vendor and choose some wep or armor (maybe the only part you dont need to be a "robot" for), yea that sounds freaking leet

[Sete Soujiro]

<P>yea pvp sounds hard to and more enjoryable to me ............</P> <P> </P> <P><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=34&message.id=11727&view=by_date_ascending&page=1" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=34&message.id=11727&view=by_date_ascending&page=1</A></P>

[ramglobaltx]

<blockquote><hr>Gyilok wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> ramglobaltx wrote: <blockquote> <hr> Gyilok wrote: <div></div>you didnt experience it, because you obviously arent close to getting MY sword or bracers, which you cant buy in the city for points you can farm on clueless noobs, so better shut up <hr> </blockquote>LOL....look at me...I'm a robot...I go kill mobs....I manage aggro....push buttons....loot chests....fun times. <div></div> <hr> </blockquote>so you kill players that dont stand a chance, dont manage agro, just push buttons, dont loot chests, and when you got enough points you go to vendor and choose some wep or armor (maybe the only part you dont need to be a "robot" for), yea that sounds freaking leet<hr></blockquote>It is freaking leet <span>:smileywink:</span>  Listen no worries, I'm not going to try and convert the unconvertable.  Some people are just competitive and some people are not. <div></div>

[kyth]

<div><blockquote><hr>ramglobaltx wrote:<blockquote><hr>Gyilok wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> ramglobaltx wrote: <blockquote> <hr> Gyilok wrote: <div></div>you didnt experience it, because you obviously arent close to getting MY sword or bracers, which you cant buy in the city for points you can farm on clueless noobs, so better shut up <hr> </blockquote>LOL....look at me...I'm a robot...I go kill mobs....I manage aggro....push buttons....loot chests....fun times. <div></div> <hr> </blockquote>so you kill players that dont stand a chance, dont manage agro, just push buttons, dont loot chests, and when you got enough points you go to vendor and choose some wep or armor (maybe the only part you dont need to be a "robot" for), yea that sounds freaking leet<hr></blockquote>It is freaking leet <span>:smileywink:</span>  Listen no worries, I'm not going to try and convert the unconvertable.  Some people are just competitive and some people are not. <div></div><hr></blockquote>And some people just really do not enjoy pvp.  Atleast pvp in eq2...</div>

[ramglobaltx]

<blockquote><hr><div><blockquote><blockquote><hr></blockquote>It is freaking leet <span>:smileywink:</span>  Listen no worries, I'm not going to try and convert the unconvertable.  Some people are just competitive and some people are not. <div></div><hr></blockquote>And some people just really do not enjoy pvp.  Atleast pvp in eq2...</div><hr></blockquote>And some people say they don't like eq2 pvp, but have never tried it.   Makes me sad. <span>:smileysad:</span><div></div>

[verydanger]

<div><blockquote><hr>ramglobaltx wrote:It is freaking leet <span>:smileywink:</span>  Listen no worries, I'm not going to try and convert the unconvertable.  Some people are just competitive and some people are not. <div></div><hr></blockquote>It has nothing to do with being competative or not. I just dont enjoy a form of competition where everybody always are looking for the "easy fights". You cant tell that isnt the natural and common way of advancing in a PvP environment.Maybe its my age, maybe I've just watched too many western movies... you know where a man would never shoot an unprepared foe in the saloon, but instead duel him 'mano a mano' on the street. Thats where the thrill is at for me. If it were a "PvP movie" you would simply peek in through the saloon door, shoot your opponent in the back and quickly ride out of town to cash your reward. Big woof?If you're so keen on getting acknowledged as an accomplished gamer though, I think you're wasting your time on the wrong game. Go play an FPS/RTS instead, MMORPGs are too simple games to warrant these 'l33t' attitudes if you ask me, PvP or PvE.</div>

[ramglobaltx]

<blockquote><hr>verydanger wrote:<div><blockquote><hr>ramglobaltx wrote:It is freaking leet <span>:smileywink:</span>  Listen no worries, I'm not going to try and convert the unconvertable.  Some people are just competitive and some people are not. <div></div><hr></blockquote>It has nothing to do with being competative or not. I just dont enjoy a form of competition where everybody always are looking for the "easy fights". You cant tell that isnt the natural and common way of advancing in a PvP environment.Maybe its my age, maybe I've just watched too many western movies... you know where a man would never shoot an unprepared foe in the saloon, but instead duel him 'mano a mano' on the street. Thats where the thrill is at for me. <font color="#ff0000"><b>If it were a "PvP movie" you would simply peek in through the saloon door, shoot your opponent in the back and quickly ride out of town to cash your reward.</b></font> Big woof?If you're so keen on getting acknowledged as an accomplished gamer though, I think you're wasting your time on the wrong game. Go play an FPS/RTS instead, MMORPGs are too simple games to warrant these 'l33t' attitudes if you ask me, PvP or PvE.</div><hr></blockquote>LOL...I do understand what you're saying.  Although, there are many times where there are equal matches and it is about as fun as you'll ever have on this game.  And, I've fought prearranged 1v1's several times...it's very easy to set up and extremely rewarding.  I'm not keen on getting acknowledged...I just wish a lot of you guys who know a lot about our class and the game would give it a shot.  I do enjoy the occasional FPS, but there is just nothing that compares to this environment, and my hope is a lot of you guys would try it on for size.   There is a lot more strategy involved in a good fight here than you would imagine...lot of teamwork, communication and 100% use of the spells a lot of you guys probably might not use.    I just think you all would enjoy it.  Hell have a few of your guild members roll alts together on a pvp server for when you are bored.  <div></div>

[DaLurk]

<blockquote><hr>ramglobaltx wrote:<blockquote>And some people say they don't like eq2 pvp, but have never tried it.   Makes me sad. <span>:smileysad:</span></blockquote><div></div><hr></blockquote>I perfectly understand, I know some people say they don't like homosexuality or entomophagy, but have never tried it. Makes me sad. <span>:smileysad:</span>

[Vazareal]

All I play is PvP games.  I never played this game or WoW unless they had a pvp server, cause just arenas suck.  Open world pvp is where its at.  I play the other games to ya know like shooters and they are fun to compete in.  But MMOs make it feel more real.  Your in tune with your character.  You create his name and look, piece together gear, then try to make a name for yourself.I played shadowbane for 3 years, and the only reason I quit recently is because im burned out and they have lost too much population.If you have never played on a PvP server in a game like this you shouldnt even comment on PvP because you have no idea.  And reading the forums wont help.  I mean someone gets owned by a ranger, guess what, yup rangers are overpowered.  A Warden?  Oh its a healer and it killed me even more overpowered lol.  You wont know till you try it.Honestly this game has decent pvp.  It could be alot better.  But it wont happen.  The major problem is there is too much emphasis on levels and gear.  I mean they should be factors, but not THE deciding factor.  In this game someone + 8 lvl of you is just too much.  If they changed this then it would be a bit better. As for being zerged?  nothing you can do, if it has pvp you can and will be zerged by a group.  PvE is pointless IMO without PvP...I mean what are you competing for?  Sure some raids and bosses in these MMOs are pretty tough.  But all you have to do is get the right group and get proper gear, and at this point you could macro the actions.  Its all about progression through the game, and the strategy to it can be learned by a few tries and at that point the challenge is gone.PvP is frustrating which is why many ppl hate it and refuse to try it.  But if you havent tried it first hand...well I wont say what you should do...I might get banned.<div></div>

[Atrix]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ramglobaltx wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>And some people say they don't like eq2 pvp, but have never tried it.   Makes me sad. <SPAN>:smileysad:</SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I have tried EQ2 PvP and it was fun, just not worth leaving my guild and friends for. </P> <P>That said, EQ2 PvP is not different than any other PvP... you gank, you get ganked.  Some of the bells and whistles may be different, but at the core it's the same.  If someone has tried PvP in almost any other game and found that for whatever reason they don't like PvP, odds are they won't like it here.    It's a very true mantra... PvP isn't for everyone, so why waste their time?</P> <P>You like PvP and think it's the cat's meow.  I am honestly happy for you.  But that doesn't make your choices/leetness/milkshake/thugicity/whatever any better -OR- worse than those of us who don't. </P>

[ibeo]

<DIV>i don't understand the big push from all the pvpers to want all the pve people to join up...what does it matter? why do you care? if people are happy why should they switch to make you happy? i've played pvp...i find it unbalanced with a far too many scouts...why would i wanna play my fav class over there when everyone has a brig there? always seems to be a black white thing if you tried you'd like...no...maybe for you...but some people don't like it...brig pvp is gank fest which doesn't do it for me...sorry hell eq2 pvp doesn't do it for me.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>as far as alot of new people being on pvp i gotta say thats happend...eq2 picked up new members when pvp was announced...alot of em...people came from many differant games at that point.....hell old guildies in old games played that would have never tried eq2 without pvp</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>i don't see thread telling people they should come to or back to pve...it's all come to pvp...get over it</DIV> <DIV>pve the old world servers have their draw...top guild raiding in this game does it for me /shrug knock it all you want but it's where i find the most fun out this game</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>so tell me pvp is more fun all you want...i am happy for you guys ...but believe me when i say i am having more fun, more challange where i am at...an untill eq2 i would have never thought it possible in a pve game</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><p>Message Edited by ibeo on <span class=date_text>08-24-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:54 AM</span>

[ramglobaltx]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Atrixya wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> ramglobaltx wrote: <blockquote>And some people say they don't like eq2 pvp, but have never tried it.   Makes me sad. <span>:smileysad:</span></blockquote> <div></div> <hr> </blockquote> <p>I have tried EQ2 PvP and it was fun, just not worth leaving my guild and friends for. </p> <p>That said, EQ2 PvP is not different than any other PvP... you gank, you get ganked.  Some of the bells and whistles may be different, but at the core it's the same.  If someone has tried PvP in almost any other game and found that for whatever reason they don't like PvP, odds are they won't like it here.    It's a very true mantra... <font color="#ff0000"><b>PvP isn't for everyone, so why waste their time?</b></font></p> <p>You like PvP and think it's the cat's meow.  I am honestly happy for you.  But that doesn't make your choices/leetness/milkshake/thugicity/whatever any better -OR- worse than those of us who don't. </p><hr></blockquote>I more or less assumed that if you've played a scout on a pve server, as I have, that most have the natural inclination to be aggressive and have that hunter mentality and therefore more inclined to like pvp.  I guess I was wrong.  I just have never had this much fun with any game, and I've played a lot, and wish a lot more folks would partake...especially all you guys.  In PVP, the more the merrier!!  There are several guilds that are raiding top end stuff too...so you can have your cake and eat it too.  Plus getting a toon to 70 on a pvp server is absolutely nothing like trying to get one to 70 on pve....very little grind, and lot's of action.  -Lenny<div></div><p>Message Edited by ramglobaltx on <span class=date_text>08-24-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:10 AM</span>

[Gyilok]

<P>haha with the current eq2 engine I can not imagine any situation where the more the merrier would apply, the more the laggier more like it</P>

[ramglobaltx]

<blockquote><hr>Gyilok wrote:<div></div> <p>haha with the current eq2 engine I can not imagine any situation where the more the merrier would apply, the more the laggier more like it</p><hr></blockquote>When I said more the merrier, I really wasn't including you in on that.   <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span> -Lenny <div></div>

[Gyilok]

whether its me or someone else, the current engine does not excel at supporting mass events, and [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] off noob

[Vazareal]

Ummm so a raiding game cant handle many ppl doing things in the same spot?  How would a big raid be different then a few grps pvpin?Guess thats not really the point but it sounded funny to me to read lol<div></div>

[kyth]

    <blockquote><hr>Vazareal wrote:Ummm so a raiding game cant handle many ppl doing things in the same spot?  How would a big raid be different then a few grps pvpin?Guess thats not really the point but it sounded funny to me to read lol<div></div><hr></blockquote>throw 2-3 guilds at a contested spawn and the lag for most people is a little much.<div></div>