Adept 3 of double up worth the rare? [Archive]

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Aral

11-05-2005, 02:27 AM

<DIV>There were confusing messages a couple weeks back regarding the ancient spells, and the adept 1/adept 3 versions. Beghn seemed to be saying he was removing the spell ranks from the game, and just have one version, non-upgradeable. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In addition, there was a patch notes claiming that Double up would now use the spell ranks of the original abilities, not the double up rank. This would jive with the tradeskill dev's plans to remove the ancient skill ranks; just 1 level of the CA. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So where are we at with this? Is there any benefit to Adept 3 Double up right now? Will that benefit remain, or will it be dropped to adept 1 level when Beghn changes up the ancient spells? I'm using adept 1 now, and don't want to waste a rare on the upgrade if it's going to become a generic double up. </DIV>

Gyilok

11-06-2005, 06:06 PM

just an example dispatch ad3 debuff is 3080, with ad 3 double up its 32xx, and the damage numbers also are pretty much higher then the versions you have them at, ad1 double up plain sucks at damage and debuff, you decide if a few hundreds of damage /hit is worth it for you or not i personally wonder how people can be so narrow minded to even buy the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ty adept1-s for these skills <A href="http://eq2images.station.sony.com/000/000/919/427.jpg" target=_blank>http://eq2images.station.sony.com/000/000/919/427.jpg</A> made a screenie showing dispatch, hope it helps

Aral

11-06-2005, 10:42 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gyilok wrote: just an example dispatch ad3 debuff is 3080, with ad 3 double up its 32xx, and the damage numbers also are pretty much higher then the versions you have them at, ad1 double up plain sucks at damage and debuff, you decide if a few hundreds of damage /hit is worth it for you or not i personally wonder how people can be so narrow minded to even buy the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ty adept1-s for these skills <A href="http://eq2images.station.sony.com/000/000/919/427.jpg" target=_blank>http://eq2images.station.sony.com/000/000/919/427.jpg</A> made a screenie showing dispatch, hope it helps <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Heh, well that's a strange take on it, "narrow minded?" In choosing where to invest scarce resources, a person just might choose not to dump their cerulean ink into a skill after seeing posts like, oh I don't know, this: <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr> I got no idea why they mess around with these, it was just fine the way it went live imo, they should merely work now fixing the bugs with these, like the skill quality double up is using (its not using adept 3 quality of ca-s, nor the upgrade level of ca-s you have them at), and the effects we get to avoid with amazing reflexes</BLOCKQUOTE> which was in response to this: <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr> Seems that all those "special" spells 52/55/58 will all be merged so there won't be anymore Adept3 or Adept1 but a unique spell (like Snoop or Disguise) not upgradable but only crafted by Jewelers/Sage/Alchemists (as said Beghn iirc). Message Edited by DaLurker on 10-11-2005 02:30 PM </BLOCKQUOTE> Sooo, when I looted a double up adept 1, and seeing no further confirmation or denial of the above messages, I guess it was "narrow minded" to scribe it and not spend my pearls on double up? I would really hate to waste a cerulean ink on something that turns into a single rank like pathfinding or snoop. I do thank you for the numbers. Sounds like the upgrade is amplifying the skills at the moment. The only question I still have is: are they going through with changing all the ancients to just 1 single non-upgradeable skill?

Aral

11-06-2005, 10:44 PM

One more thing about Double up: I notice that Evasion is on the list, but Elude is not. Is that a bug? Elude is the T6, level 60 upgrade to evasion. It's also a monster hate decrease at adept 3.

Kegofbud

11-07-2005, 11:38 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Aralys wrote: One more thing about Double up: I notice that Evasion is on the list, but Elude is not. Is that a bug? Elude is the T6, level 60 upgrade to evasion. It's also a monster hate decrease at adept 3. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Possibly that will change when you hit level 60? Does it only show the skill you currently have in the line right now? Guess I haven't looked THAT closely. I would be shocked if they combined the 3 special skills in to one without hearing something more. This is the first I've heard of it. He was right though. As long as the skills stay as they are, it's very worth the adept3. Message Edited by Kegofbud on 11-07-2005 10:38 AM

Gyilok

11-08-2005, 11:58 AM

at 60, still evasion is on the list only, does the same amount of detaunt as elude adept 3 though

Aral

11-09-2005, 12:13 AM

Well I was going to adept 3 elude, but I use (or was attempting to use) double up on it often during raiding, so I guess I'll just use evasion instead.

Kegofbud

11-10-2005, 12:44 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Aralys wrote: Well I was going to adept 3 elude, but I use (or was attempting to use) double up on it often during raiding, so I guess I'll just use evasion instead. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> With the new agro changes in LU 16, doubling up on deagro might not be as important - I'm hoping. Viva la DPS...