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Damari
04-08-2005, 02:06 AM
<DIV>Hey all,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>After last nights patch I couldnt get 'elise's quick sneak' or even 'low blow' to put me into stealth. Yes autoattack was off.  Anyone else have problems with this.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Damari</DIV> <DIV>38</DIV>

ss23otm
04-08-2005, 05:59 PM
<DIV>Yes, I had a few problems with Elise's Quick Sneak... for some reason sometimes it work sometimes it doesn't .... it is a very odd bug</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The only reason i chose Elise was for the in combat sneak of only 1 sec..... ibecause it said it in the description it could be used in combat, whn i recieved it. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> Wonder if it is a bug or intentional?</DIV>

Turb
04-08-2005, 08:04 PM
A few other threads seem to imply that only predators can now combat steath.You can stealth before a fight, but not once it's started <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />If so, a bit of a dps nerf to the others, at a time when SoE is promising more scout dps... ho hum.

WuphonsReach
04-09-2005, 06:32 PM
/bug itI believe it's related to the timer changes that were made recently.

Hexfa
04-10-2005, 12:07 AM
My Elisi's quick sneak is working fine during combat as of April 8.  Smuggler's Talent, however, was not working in combat at all

Play-D
04-10-2005, 01:50 AM
<div></div>It's a bug that sometimes strikes. /bug it, and if you are looking for a more immediate remedy try rezoning. Edit: ST was nerfed, somehow people were using it to stay invis during combat I think. So it was changed to be out of combat only. I never used it for stealth attacks myself so I cannot tell you in detail why the change occured. <div></div><p>Message Edited by Play-Doh on <span class=date_text>04-09-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:53 PM</span>

Gyilok
04-10-2005, 12:41 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Play-Doh wrote:<BR> It's a bug that sometimes strikes. /bug it, and if you are looking for a more immediate remedy try rezoning.<BR><BR>Edit: ST was nerfed, somehow people were using it to stay invis during combat I think. So it was changed to be out of combat only. I never used it for stealth attacks myself so I cannot tell you in detail why the change occured.<BR> <P>Message Edited by Play-Doh on <SPAN class=date_text>04-09-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>04:53 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>correct, smugglers talent, when fired during combat made us able to do stealth attacks, which means a 350-650 hit with dot every 10 secs is lost now hehe, but all scout classes had one of their invis skill doing the same (shwashies also have smugglers talent for example) so it is not a nerf, it's a fix to a bug

Play-D
04-10-2005, 01:40 PM
Fix or nerf it's just semantics. I wasn't attempting to imply using this skill to remain stealthed the whole time during combat was ok though, or that I am angry about the change. It was being exploited and hats off to the des for fixing this. <div></div>

Turb
04-11-2005, 04:41 PM
Well, I seem to be able to use our 3 second Sneak to stealth in combat at the moment. And yes, I took Evade upgrade at L10....Agree ST was a 'loophole' but would be nice to have DPS upped a shade to compensate.

Goldenblade
04-14-2005, 02:03 AM
<DIV>Smugglers Talent still works the same way, however, you cant use it if YOU starting attacking.  Meaning, if somebody else starts the combat, then you use ST, you get the stealth icon and can use your stealth attacks the same way we did before hand.  I like unintended features..</DIV>

Gyilok
04-15-2005, 02:54 PM
<P>smugglers talent greys out for me in combat, no way to activate it</P> <P>the problems with our stealth attacks are at high lvls that the fd attached to them is buggy and can mess up everything, my lurk broke the whole ring of fear event once, just by going off, so I use sneak in combat, or shadow slip, and then the nice master 1 run through <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />, which if i was hitting every 10 secs in raid, I am one dead brigand in no time</P>