Brigand Parse 20050203-20050204

[ag]

Analysis of CA + auto-attack dmg, for my 35 BrigandStart - [Wed Feb 02 07:16:29 2005]End - [Thu Feb 03 23:21:39 2005]68849 total lines in log fileFighting primarily for XP in the enchanted lands, but also doing heritage quests, slaughtering greys, you name it. All yellow crafted weapons, 100+ Agi all the time, various buffs, debuffs, etc. Generally speaking, the data below represents what I would call average fighting in groups and solo.<pre>Combat Arts-----------Surprise Blow Total accumulated damage: 22082 Total lines parsed: 33 Average hit damage: 669.15Bum Rush Total accumulated damage: 12942 Total lines parsed: 77 Average hit damage: 168.08Vicious Stab Total accumulated damage: 38362 Total lines parsed: 262 Average hit damage: 146.42Low Blow Total accumulated damage: 21776 Total lines parsed: 156 Average hit damage: 139.59Black Jack Total accumulated damage: 10235 Total lines parsed: 76 Average hit damage: 134.67Hidden Shiv Total accumulated damage: 12005 Total lines parsed: 95 Average hit damage: 126.37Elisi Total accumulated damage: 47862 Total lines parsed: 521 Average hit damage: 91.87Disarming Thrust Total accumulated damage: 33458 Total lines parsed: 371 Average hit damage: 90.18Shank Total accumulated damage: 16385 Total lines parsed: 193 Average hit damage: 84.90Ringing Blow Total accumulated damage: 6435 Total lines parsed: 77 Average hit damage: 83.57Tani Total accumulated damage: 87437 Total lines parsed: 2101 Average hit damage: 41.62Auto-attack-----------Total accumulated damage: 147114Total lines parsed: 7070Average hit damage: 20.81Damage value 4 count is 2 0.03%Damage value 7 count is 37 0.52%Damage value 8 count is 147 2.08%Damage value 9 count is 232 3.28%Damage value 10 count is 312 4.41%Damage value 11 count is 349 4.94%Damage value 12 count is 375 5.30%Damage value 13 count is 364 5.15%Damage value 14 count is 442 6.25%Damage value 15 count is 336 4.75%Damage value 16 count is 418 5.91%Damage value 17 count is 347 4.91%Damage value 18 count is 409 5.79%Damage value 19 count is 433 6.12%Damage value 20 count is 356 5.04%Damage value 21 count is 380 5.37%Damage value 22 count is 306 4.33%Damage value 23 count is 285 4.03%Damage value 24 count is 234 3.31%Damage value 25 count is 214 3.03%Damage value 26 count is 189 2.67%Damage value 27 count is 182 2.57%Damage value 28 count is 115 1.63%Damage value 29 count is 73 1.03%Damage value 30 count is 33 0.47%Damage value 31 count is 39 0.55%Damage value 32 count is 27 0.38%Damage value 33 count is 11 0.16%Damage value 34 count is 29 0.41%Damage value 35 count is 14 0.20%Damage value 36 count is 19 0.27%Damage value 37 count is 17 0.24%---various other values below 1% follow this list, but are not included for brevity</pre>Some further interesting stats:Comparing Total CA/HO dmg with total auto-attack damage, I surprisingly found that auto-attack comprised 43% of my total damage, with CA's/HO's being 57%. I did some rampant slaughtering of greys while camping Heritage quest spawns in the past two days though, so this may have a part in that, not sure. Further parsing will bear this out as to it's validity.Average CA/HO hit damage is 4 times avg auto-attack damage. (81.04 vs 20.81)<p>Message Edited by agra on <span class=date_text>02-04-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:51 AM</span>

[ag]

Another parsing set.. for level 37/38 Brigand with pristine forged feyiron kris/hand-axe. XP'ing in Rivervale, EL, as well as more slaughtering of greys for various quests.<pre>[Sun Feb 06 08:36:51 2005]to[Tue Feb 08 22:42:52 2005]CA's----Surprise Blow Total accumulated damage: 204885 Total lines parsed: 279 Average hit damage: 734.35Bum Rush Total accumulated damage: 113741 Total lines parsed: 688 Average hit damage: 165.32Vicious Stab Total accumulated damage: 158739 Total lines parsed: 1046 Average hit damage: 151.76Sap Total accumulated damage: 53782 Total lines parsed: 361 Average hit damage: 148.98Low Blow Total accumulated damage: 77686 Total lines parsed: 529 Average hit damage: 146.85Vicious Rake Total accumulated damage: 32634 Total lines parsed: 300 Average hit damage: 108.78Hidden Shiv Total accumulated damage: 136417 Total lines parsed: 1319 Average hit damage: 103.42Elisi Total accumulated damage: 209575 Total lines parsed: 2187 Average hit damage: 95.83Disarming Thrust Total accumulated damage: 150698 Total lines parsed: 1606 Average hit damage: 93.83Shank Total accumulated damage: 134313 Total lines parsed: 1542 Average hit damage: 87.10Tani Total accumulated damage: 115542 Total lines parsed: 2893 Average hit damage: 39.94HO's and other damage:----------------------Ringing Blow Total accumulated damage: 24083 Total lines parsed: 238 Average hit damage: 101.19Restitution Total accumulated damage: 1429 Total lines parsed: 29 Average hit damage: 49.28Craven Delight Total accumulated damage: 3479 Total lines parsed: 55 Average hit damage: 63.25Maddening Shot Total accumulated damage: 4840 Total lines parsed: 52 Average hit damage: 93.08Troubador Weapon Total accumulated damage: 1796 Total lines parsed: 16 Average hit damage: 112.25Dirge Weapon Total accumulated damage: 1728 Total lines parsed: 21 Average hit damage: 82.29Dynamism Total accumulated damage: 7478 Total lines parsed: 137 Average hit damage: 54.58Voracious Soul Total accumulated damage: 1401 Total lines parsed: 31 Average hit damage: 45.19Anarchic Swing Total accumulated damage: 1223 Total lines parsed: 7 Average hit damage: 174.71Vengeful Faith Total accumulated damage: 572 Total lines parsed: 16 Average hit damage: 35.75Predatory Salve Total accumulated damage: 460 Total lines parsed: 10 Average hit damage: 46.00Bloodlusted Wounds Total accumulated damage: 4679 Total lines parsed: 103 Average hit damage: 45.43Arcane Trickery Total accumulated damage: 1258 Total lines parsed: 3 Average hit damage: 419.33Divine Trickery Total accumulated damage: 3349 Total lines parsed: 11 Average hit damage: 304.45Archaic Shackles Total accumulated damage: 4209 Total lines parsed: 18 Average hit damage: 233.83Trickster's Grasp Total accumulated damage: 850 Total lines parsed: 3 Average hit damage: 283.33Resonating Cascade Total accumulated damage: 1111 Total lines parsed: 5 Average hit damage: 222.20Auto-Attack-----------Total accumulated damage: 670337Total lines parsed: 36930Average hit damage: 18.15Damage value 4 count is 1 0.00%Damage value 6 count is 1 0.00%Damage value 7 count is 47 0.13%Damage value 8 count is 1005 2.72%Damage value 9 count is 1336 3.62%Damage value 10 count is 2352 6.37%Damage value 11 count is 1672 4.53%Damage value 12 count is 2231 6.04%Damage value 13 count is 2080 5.63%Damage value 14 count is 2402 6.50%Damage value 15 count is 1650 4.47%Damage value 16 count is 2598 7.03%Damage value 17 count is 1751 4.74%Damage value 18 count is 2453 6.64%Damage value 19 count is 2407 6.52%Damage value 20 count is 1871 5.07%Damage value 21 count is 2319 6.28%Damage value 22 count is 1803 4.88%Damage value 23 count is 1854 5.02%Damage value 24 count is 1185 3.21%Damage value 25 count is 1180 3.20%Damage value 26 count is 670 1.81%Damage value 27 count is 651 1.76%Damage value 28 count is 205 0.56%Damage value 29 count is 98 0.27%Damage value 30 count is 70 0.19%Damage value 31 count is 113 0.31%Damage value 32 count is 69 0.19%Damage value 33 count is 48 0.13%Damage value 34 count is 61 0.17%Damage value 35 count is 43 0.12%Damage value 36 count is 54 0.15%Damage value 37 count is 27 0.07%Damage value 38 count is 31 0.08%Damage value 39 count is 7 0.02%-more values removed for brevity-CA/HO related damageTotal accumulated damage: 1462125Total lines parsed: 13660Average hit damage: 107.04Highest hit was:YOUR Surprise Blow hits a lamia deathcaller for 1142 points of piercing damage.</pre>So in this time frame, auto-attack accounted for 31.5% total damage, whereas CA's/HO's were 68.5%.Also, by hit, CA's/HO's on avg are almost 6 times more damaging, although this should be considered in context.<p>Message Edited by agra on <span class=date_text>02-09-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:24 AM</span>

[WhiteFr]

This is great to see what is the accual value of our skills.<BR>This post could be a lot more usefull if we could se the version of the skills you are using (ie App4. adept1)<BR>

[TricksyRaton]

<DIV>Can you link to a good parser, like the one above?  :smileywink:</DIV>

[Kegofbud]

<DIV>Aden's Combatstats on Combatstats.com is a great one.</DIV>

[ag]

<blockquote><hr>WhiteFrog wrote:This is great to see what is the accual value of our skills.This post could be a lot more usefull if we could se the version of the skills you are using (ie App4. adept1)<hr></blockquote>All my skills are Adept1 or App4 (only 2-3 are App4, though). I have no Adept 3's or Master's.<p>Message Edited by agra on <span class=date_text>02-09-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:50 PM</span>

[ag]

I finally updated my Perl script to show all CA/HO's dynamically, so here we go...Level 39 Brigand now, primarily XP'ing in Rivervale, with a smattering of Ruins of Varsoon in there. Below is from yesterday.<pre>Surprise Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 12952 , Count: 18 , Average Dmg: 719.56Luck's Bite , Accumulated Dmg: 2187 , Count: 6 , Average Dmg: 364.50Resonating Cascade , Accumulated Dmg: 13197 , Count: 39 , Average Dmg: 338.38Trickster's Grasp , Accumulated Dmg: 20906 , Count: 62 , Average Dmg: 337.19Arcane Trickery , Accumulated Dmg: 6102 , Count: 19 , Average Dmg: 321.16Bum Rush , Accumulated Dmg: 84447 , Count: 475 , Average Dmg: 177.78Archaic Shackles , Accumulated Dmg: 706 , Count: 4 , Average Dmg: 176.50Vicious Stab , Accumulated Dmg: 53976 , Count: 333 , Average Dmg: 162.09Low Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 32205 , Count: 199 , Average Dmg: 161.83Sap , Accumulated Dmg: 18344 , Count: 115 , Average Dmg: 159.51Strike of Faith , Accumulated Dmg: 277 , Count: 2 , Average Dmg: 138.50Skeleton Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 269 , Count: 2 , Average Dmg: 134.50Nightblood Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 3975 , Count: 31 , Average Dmg: 128.23Vicious Rake , Accumulated Dmg: 12742 , Count: 111 , Average Dmg: 114.79Elisi's Aggressive Stabs , Accumulated Dmg: 75513 , Count: 726 , Average Dmg: 104.01Disarming Thrust , Accumulated Dmg: 54219 , Count: 553 , Average Dmg: 98.05Ringing Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 1344 , Count: 14 , Average Dmg: 96.00Shank , Accumulated Dmg: 72078 , Count: 797 , Average Dmg: 90.44Dynamism , Accumulated Dmg: 7422 , Count: 96 , Average Dmg: 77.31Craven Delight , Accumulated Dmg: 62163 , Count: 896 , Average Dmg: 69.38Venomous Runes , Accumulated Dmg: 429 , Count: 7 , Average Dmg: 61.29Bloodlusted Wounds , Accumulated Dmg: 457 , Count: 9 , Average Dmg: 50.78Tani's Circular Flurry , Accumulated Dmg: 26162 , Count: 648 , Average Dmg: 40.37Nettleshield Thorns , Accumulated Dmg: 135 , Count: 9 , Average Dmg: 15.00---Total Dmg: 562207 , Total Count: 5171 , Total Average: 108.72Total accumulated damage: 186576Total lines parsed: 10614Average hit damage: 17.58Damage value 8 count is 229 2.16%Damage value 9 count is 364 3.43%Damage value 10 count is 575 5.42%Damage value 11 count is 451 4.25%Damage value 12 count is 652 6.14%Damage value 13 count is 505 4.76%Damage value 14 count is 656 6.18%Damage value 15 count is 489 4.61%Damage value 16 count is 658 6.20%Damage value 17 count is 531 5.00%Damage value 18 count is 652 6.14%Damage value 19 count is 509 4.80%Damage value 20 count is 734 6.92%Damage value 21 count is 593 5.59%Damage value 22 count is 540 5.09%Damage value 23 count is 595 5.61%Damage value 24 count is 421 3.97%Damage value 25 count is 348 3.28%Damage value 26 count is 199 1.87%Damage value 27 count is 203 1.91%Damage value 28 count is 162 1.53%Damage value 29 count is 76 0.72%Damage value 30 count is 49 0.46%Damage value 31 count is 43 0.41%Damage value 32 count is 54 0.51%Damage value 33 count is 23 0.22%-more values removed-Grand Total Dmg: 748783Total dmg from CA/HO: 75%Total dmg from Auto-Attack: 25%</pre>Also note that Ringing blow does not appear to be scaling appropriately. It is no longer "a good idea" imo, to bother with it (especially while in groups), given the damage of normal CA's.As a side note.. these are the phrases I have logged from lamia's:"Oh! I wasn't expecting that!""You hit like a slave!""You will suffer the ultimate in torture for that!""Mana, faith, it makes no difference, you will perish!""Engage the fighter! Do what ever it takes!""Break the priests faith, then destroy what remains!""How dare your approach me in that manner!""Now I'm really mad!""I shall not let that stand! You will die!""I'm gonna give it to you!""Come and get it!"(although I was 99% sure they also said "This only turns me on" as well, I can't find a log entry for it)

[ag]

More level 39 fighting yesterday (90% now!!) in the Obelisk of Lost Souls, as well as killing hundreds of Zombies for Zombie mastery in the ruins of Caltorsis. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><pre>CA/HO damage:Surprise Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 9999 , Count: 11 , Average Dmg: 909.00Resonating Cascade , Accumulated Dmg: 295 , Count: 1 , Average Dmg: 295.00Archaic Shackles , Accumulated Dmg: 455 , Count: 2 , Average Dmg: 227.50Bum Rush , Accumulated Dmg: 37997 , Count: 207 , Average Dmg: 183.56Sap , Accumulated Dmg: 9601 , Count: 53 , Average Dmg: 181.15Low Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 15462 , Count: 87 , Average Dmg: 177.72Vicious Stab , Accumulated Dmg: 29621 , Count: 167 , Average Dmg: 177.37Skeleton Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 326 , Count: 2 , Average Dmg: 163.00Nightblood Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 5363 , Count: 40 , Average Dmg: 134.07Vicious Rake , Accumulated Dmg: 7088 , Count: 59 , Average Dmg: 120.14Elisi's Aggressive Stabs , Accumulated Dmg: 37294 , Count: 331 , Average Dmg: 112.67Disarming Thrust , Accumulated Dmg: 26878 , Count: 253 , Average Dmg: 106.24Shank , Accumulated Dmg: 32623 , Count: 359 , Average Dmg: 90.87Ringing Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 599 , Count: 8 , Average Dmg: 74.88Craven Delight , Accumulated Dmg: 26121 , Count: 379 , Average Dmg: 68.92Tani's Circular Flurry , Accumulated Dmg: 99856 , Count: 2370 , Average Dmg: 42.13---Total Dmg: 339578 , Total Count: 4329 , Total Average: 78.44Auto-attack damage:Total accumulated damage: 136814Total lines parsed: 6431Average hit damage: 21.27Damage value 8 count is 23 0.36%Damage value 9 count is 111 1.73%Damage value 10 count is 169 2.63%Damage value 11 count is 281 4.37%Damage value 12 count is 322 5.01%Damage value 13 count is 274 4.26%Damage value 14 count is 350 5.44%Damage value 15 count is 338 5.26%Damage value 16 count is 328 5.10%Damage value 17 count is 332 5.16%Damage value 18 count is 329 5.12%Damage value 19 count is 315 4.90%Damage value 20 count is 367 5.71%Damage value 21 count is 282 4.39%Damage value 22 count is 320 4.98%Damage value 23 count is 338 5.26%Damage value 24 count is 287 4.46%Damage value 25 count is 300 4.66%Damage value 26 count is 229 3.56%Damage value 27 count is 203 3.16%Damage value 28 count is 189 2.94%Damage value 29 count is 191 2.97%Damage value 30 count is 153 2.38%Damage value 31 count is 115 1.79%Damage value 32 count is 94 1.46%Damage value 33 count is 15 0.23%Damage value 34 count is 13 0.20%-more values removed-CA/HO's - 71% total damageAuto-Attack - 29% total damage</pre>

[Aral]

<DIV>Surprised that hidden shiv is so low on the list.  Do you use HS every time it comes up? Or do you prefer other skills?  Obviously bum rush will lead with the short recast timer, but hidden shiv should be higher in the list of total damage. </DIV>

[ag]

Craven Delight has replaced Hidden Shiv for me, at the moment.However, during normal group fighting, I would be using the Art as often as it became available, for sure. You'll note that for the first parse, it was used 95 times, whereas bum rush was 77 and blackjack was 76.In the second parse, the Arts used more often than Hidden Shiv are Elisi's and Tani's, which are both multi-strike attacks, thus skewing their position slighty in this instance. In addition, Shank and Disarming thrust also have a higher count, but they're still within 10-20% of Hidden Shiv.

[Kende]

<DIV>Few questions:</DIV> <DIV>Why would you get 1-starred for posting useful info? /boggle</DIV> <DIV>Someone must just not like you. :smileysad:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>How come Tani's Circular Flurry is used so much compared to other arts?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Why only 11 Surprise Blows (Ruse)?  At 900 dmg every 60 seconds (using 3-4 seconds to do it), it seems rather useful.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks,</DIV> <DIV>Kend</DIV> <DIV>27 Brigand</DIV> <DIV>Black Talons</DIV> <DIV>Najena server</DIV>

[ag]

<blockquote><hr>Kendera wrote:<DIV>Few questions:</DIV><DIV>Why would you get 1-starred for posting useful info? /boggle</DIV><DIV>Someone must just not like you. :smileysad:</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>How come Tani's Circular Flurry is used so much compared to other arts?</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Why only 11 Surprise Blows (Ruse)? At 900 dmg every 60 seconds (using 3-4 seconds to do it), it seems rather useful.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Thanks,</DIV><DIV>Kend</DIV><DIV>27 Brigand</DIV><DIV>Black Talons</DIV><DIV>Najena server</DIV><hr></blockquote>Some people don't like parsing. It detracts from the mystery (and thusly fun, for some) of the game. That's fine with me. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />As far as why the Ruse use count is so low, it's because it's a positional attack and requires me to get in front of the creature to use it. I use it every fight while soloing, but rarely while in a group. Most tanks and healers get on my case for taking barrage damage if I position for Ruse, so if the group is doing well (fights are less than 60-90 seconds) and power is 50% or higher, I don't use Ruse while in a group. Call me lazy. <img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Tani's Circular Flurry is used so much because it's a radius AoE attack, plus DoT. The DoT is 3 or 4 ticks of 48 dmg, so while I am fighting four encounters of 4-5 zombies (or owlbears, or whatever) I get 100 counts per cast, and sometimes cast it 3 times per 'encounter' when slaughtering greys. A very useful CA, imo. But this is why I post the use count with the total damage, so people can see that despite me using something 300 times, the individual damage done is still quite lower, comparatively. It's just useful under a different circumstance.<p>Message Edited by agra on <span class=date_text>02-16-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:04 AM</span>

[Zerim]

<DIV>To each his own, but unless you are in extremely close quarters, you can usually get Ruse off before the targeted mob is within melee range which means you don't take damage (assuming you are paying close attention to the puller's movements).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I also find that if you time when you get in front of the mob to use Ruse immediately after a barrage, you will normally take less damage, if none at all.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I gotta tell ya, with a App IV or Adept 1 combat art, one's laziness to not get in front of a mob precluding the use of high damage combat art like Ruse <STRONG><EM>might</EM></STRONG> be justifiable. However with Master 1, both me and the folks I usually group with can live with me taking a little more damage than usual because the positives (incredibly high DPS) outweigh the negatives (occassionally getting barraged).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>To put it in perspective, I group frequently with a wizard who is usually +2 levels higher than me. She told me (iirc) she has 4 level 28-36 adept 3 spells and 2 level 37+ adept 3s as well as a Master 1 DD spell. The <STRONG>only </STRONG>time she can outdamage me is on a non-uparrow multi-mob pull when she can use her AoEs - then its not even close - they are incredible at AoE damage - even before the Wizard/Warlock buffs. To me, this type of increased damage makes Ruse a must-use type of combat art - especially if you have an Adept 3 or Master version of it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Fortunately with the buff of Wizards and Warlocks coming in the next patch, scouts everywhere can get a little help in the DPS department.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Great perl script agra, you need to put a wrapper on it and let us brigands beta test it <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><p>Message Edited by Zerimar on <span class=date_text>02-16-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:06 PM</span>

[ag]

You can find the perl script on the Scouts Sanctuary (unless that's what you were referring to, in which case, test away.)A little more on Ruse...When I'm in groups that understand what Ruse is, I use it more. Last night was a pickup group, and the <i>second</i> I positioned to use it, I got a tell from the tank to stay out of Barrage range. When I tried to use it on pull, I got a tell from the healer saying "Why are you getting aggro?".However, I have been in groups where it's appropriate, especially if I am the only other DPS, or I am tanking (yes, this happens). However, if I complete most HO's (often) and am doing Ruse, and am chaining CA's, even with using Evades, it's often not enough to avoid getting aggro on most single-mob (Group ^^) fights. I mean you crank 700 dmg from Ruse into the thing, then complete three HO's for ~300dmg each all the while chaining HO's, stuns, etc, the thing is going to turn... Although, a tactic I've been using lately is to chain HO's until I get aggro, Ruse, then Lie Low. 99% of the time, the creature switches back to the tank, and all is well.In any case, the point I'm striving for here is that I don't underestimate Ruse's effectiveness; I just don't always find it <i>necessary</i> in well-balanced groups.

[Play-D]

<DIV> <HR> </DIV> <P>Agra wrote:</P> <P>When I tried to use it on pull, I got a tell from the healer saying "Why are you getting aggro?".<BR><BR> <HR> </P> <P>Just reply with "I am doing damage". If a healer overreacts to something so ridiculously small as one person needing an extra button pushed, they aren't worth grouping with.</P> <P>I have had several confrontations with tanks not underrstanding what ruse does, and why I need to be in front to activate it. I just send them a tell explaining what it does and why I need to flop back and forth from time to time. I have never met a person that asks me not to use it afterwards though, and if someone ever does that would be a big red flag telling me this isn't a group I want to participate in.</P>

[Priest of Fe]

<DIV>/agree 100% with play-doh.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ruse is the brigand's big gun; not using an ability which does such a huge amount of damage in every fight seems ludicrous to me.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I liken it to Defilers who never use wards in combat, thinking their debuffs and spot heals are adequate.</DIV>

[Gyilok]

<DIV>ruse is our most power-effective skill I guess even at app 4, and it is part of my usual combat routine in most fights against ^ and ^^ mobs or bigger groups of normals, it can practically take out a normal or if you get a better hit in a ^ mob of the fight instantly, or puts him only a few hits away from dying which in my opinion is very useful</DIV> <DIV>my experince with groups is, that over lvl 40 99% of the ppl know what the other class is doing, didn't  have anyone asking me why  doing fd so often since mid 30s, if you manage to get into a group with one or more ppl from that 1 % you can always tell them the way it works, or ignore them, or tell them to take care of the mage chain-casting health convert to mana dropping his health fast <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Kegofbud]

<DIV><FONT color=#ffffff>Even though they set ruse to our names, I haven't noticed takign any more agro then before when I use it. If I am ever questioned about using it, I explain to the group what it does and they then understand from then on. I use it every fight it's up. My Lie Low works well at Adept 1 so if the healer isn't low on power, I really don't care if the mob spins for a hit or two. Our attacks, when spammed, almost always draw agro for a bit. Since I always put out as much damage as I can every encounter, I've learned to expect agro and deal with it accordingly. Most times I can lose it again within a few hits. It's the price you pay to do the sick DPS we do.</FONT></DIV>

[ag]

Now level 40..Some fighting in Obelisk of Lost Souls plus a run through Nektropos Castle last night.<pre>Combat Arts / Heroic Opportunities----------------------------------Surprise Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 3056 , Count: 4 , Average Dmg: 764.00Divine Trickery , Accumulated Dmg: 841 , Count: 2 , Average Dmg: 420.50Luck's Bite , Accumulated Dmg: 766 , Count: 3 , Average Dmg: 255.33Anarchic Swing , Accumulated Dmg: 3794 , Count: 17 , Average Dmg: 223.18Bum Rush , Accumulated Dmg: 22365 , Count: 110 , Average Dmg: 203.32Vicious Stab , Accumulated Dmg: 13168 , Count: 71 , Average Dmg: 185.46Sap , Accumulated Dmg: 4020 , Count: 22 , Average Dmg: 182.73Low Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 6211 , Count: 34 , Average Dmg: 182.68Nightblood Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 1897 , Count: 12 , Average Dmg: 158.08Tani's Violent Rake , Accumulated Dmg: 4644 , Count: 34 , Average Dmg: 136.59Elisi's Aggressive Stabs , Accumulated Dmg: 11547 , Count: 100 , Average Dmg: 115.47Disarming Thrust , Accumulated Dmg: 11587 , Count: 103 , Average Dmg: 112.50Shank , Accumulated Dmg: 19441 , Count: 206 , Average Dmg: 94.37Aggravated Assault , Accumulated Dmg: 2433 , Count: 26 , Average Dmg: 93.58Craven Delight , Accumulated Dmg: 21334 , Count: 230 , Average Dmg: 92.76Dynamism , Accumulated Dmg: 267 , Count: 3 , Average Dmg: 89.00Restitution , Accumulated Dmg: 1438 , Count: 27 , Average Dmg: 53.26Tani's Circular Flurry , Accumulated Dmg: 2890 , Count: 72 , Average Dmg: 40.14---Total Dmg: 131699 , Total Count: 1076 , Total Average: 122.40Auto-Attack-----------Total accumulated damage: 79159Total lines parsed: 4478Average hit damage: 17.68Damage value 7 count is 1 0.02%Damage value 8 count is 53 1.18%Damage value 9 count is 151 3.37%Damage value 10 count is 261 5.83%Damage value 11 count is 262 5.85%Damage value 12 count is 275 6.14%Damage value 13 count is 268 5.98%Damage value 14 count is 259 5.78%Damage value 15 count is 228 5.09%Damage value 16 count is 214 4.78%Damage value 17 count is 283 6.32%Damage value 18 count is 245 5.47%Damage value 19 count is 222 4.96%Damage value 20 count is 270 6.03%Damage value 21 count is 253 5.65%Damage value 22 count is 249 5.56%Damage value 23 count is 242 5.40%Damage value 24 count is 209 4.67%Damage value 25 count is 174 3.89%Damage value 26 count is 156 3.48%Damage value 27 count is 87 1.94%Damage value 28 count is 46 1.03%Damage value 29 count is 37 0.83%Damage value 30 count is 15 0.33%Damage value 31 count is 11 0.25%-more values removed below 0.1%-38% auto-attack dmg overall62% CA / HO dmg overall</pre>Yes yes, I should be Ruse'ing more, I know. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Zerim]

<DIV>I love that output format. I am gonna try to set this up tonight before I start my EXP grind.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I hope to report back when I am done <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[ag]

Level 41 now, this is a few days worth of combat doing some heritages, fighting in Obelisk, Rivervale solo'ing, and of course, slaughtering greys by the hundreds. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I have the PGT now, and am using pristine forged fulginate spatha/rapier too, depending on the situation.See! I'm Ruse'ing more! Good gnome!I was using.. Neksomething Sludge and Something Kiss for poison (level 200 red and purple).<pre>CA/HO's-------Surprise Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 170138 , Count: 240 , Average Dmg: 708.91Divine Trickery , Accumulated Dmg: 403 , Count: 1 , Average Dmg: 403.00Luck's Bite , Accumulated Dmg: 3654 , Count: 12 , Average Dmg: 304.50Arcane Trickery , Accumulated Dmg: 2098 , Count: 7 , Average Dmg: 299.71Trickster's Grasp , Accumulated Dmg: 2434 , Count: 11 , Average Dmg: 221.27Anarchic Swing , Accumulated Dmg: 6434 , Count: 33 , Average Dmg: 194.97Bum Rush , Accumulated Dmg: 118054 , Count: 631 , Average Dmg: 187.09Vicious Stab , Accumulated Dmg: 130870 , Count: 754 , Average Dmg: 173.57Low Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 77346 , Count: 449 , Average Dmg: 172.26Sap , Accumulated Dmg: 47986 , Count: 285 , Average Dmg: 168.37Fae Fire , Accumulated Dmg: 616 , Count: 4 , Average Dmg: 154.00Archaic Shackles , Accumulated Dmg: 462 , Count: 3 , Average Dmg: 154.00Orc Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 1382 , Count: 9 , Average Dmg: 153.56Giant Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 306 , Count: 2 , Average Dmg: 153.00Skeleton Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 1508 , Count: 10 , Average Dmg: 150.80Nightblood Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 8453 , Count: 58 , Average Dmg: 145.74Bushwhack , Accumulated Dmg: 143 , Count: 1 , Average Dmg: 143.00Tani's Violent Rake , Accumulated Dmg: 22008 , Count: 171 , Average Dmg: 128.70Elisi's Aggressive Stabs , Accumulated Dmg: 170898 , Count: 1557 , Average Dmg: 109.76Disarming Thrust , Accumulated Dmg: 117994 , Count: 1088 , Average Dmg: 108.45Ringing Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 19831 , Count: 205 , Average Dmg: 96.74Craven Delight , Accumulated Dmg: 104091 , Count: 1103 , Average Dmg: 94.37Shank , Accumulated Dmg: 125469 , Count: 1375 , Average Dmg: 91.25Hamstring , Accumulated Dmg: 354 , Count: 4 , Average Dmg: 88.50Dynamism , Accumulated Dmg: 4760 , Count: 55 , Average Dmg: 86.55poison , Accumulated Dmg: 79557 , Count: 953 , Average Dmg: 83.48Voracious Soul , Accumulated Dmg: 3657 , Count: 44 , Average Dmg: 83.11Predatory Salve Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 369 , Count: 7 , Average Dmg: 52.71Restitution , Accumulated Dmg: 7353 , Count: 144 , Average Dmg: 51.06Bloodlusted Wounds , Accumulated Dmg: 6980 , Count: 139 , Average Dmg: 50.22Tani's Circular Flurry , Accumulated Dmg: 104091 , Count: 2590 , Average Dmg: 40.19---_Total Dmg: 1339699 , Total Count: 11945 , Total Average: 112.16Auto-Attack-----------Total accumulated damage: 516937Total lines parsed: 27697Average hit damage: 18.66Damage value 2 count is 81 0.29%Damage value 3 count is 31 0.11%Damage value 4 count is 1 0.00%Damage value 5 count is 2 0.01%Damage value 6 count is 11 0.04%Damage value 7 count is 37 0.13%Damage value 8 count is 415 1.50%Damage value 9 count is 1002 3.62%Damage value 10 count is 1422 5.13%Damage value 11 count is 1502 5.42%Damage value 12 count is 1603 5.79%Damage value 13 count is 1477 5.33%Damage value 14 count is 1519 5.48%Damage value 15 count is 1591 5.74%Damage value 16 count is 1529 5.52%Damage value 17 count is 1414 5.11%Damage value 18 count is 1743 6.29%Damage value 19 count is 1355 4.89%Damage value 20 count is 1619 5.85%Damage value 21 count is 1584 5.72%Damage value 22 count is 1452 5.24%Damage value 23 count is 1430 5.16%Damage value 24 count is 1172 4.23%Damage value 25 count is 1031 3.72%Damage value 26 count is 670 2.42%Damage value 27 count is 539 1.95%Damage value 28 count is 381 1.38%-more dmg values removed for brevity-72% CA/HO's/Poison overall dmg28% auto-attack overall dmg</pre>

[b3taha]

hmmm...

[ag]

Level 43 now, most of the data below was through 42. Hunting in RV and a trip to Permafrost included. Using PGT and SBD for weapons. AGI is now 150+ self buffed. STR is ~90.Total Lines in log: 260191Combat Lines parsed: 32103Start [Fri Mar 04 08:08:27 2005]End [Sun Mar 06 23:09:11 2005]<pre>CA/HO's-------Surprise Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 102962 , Count: 136 , Average Dmg: 757.07Divine Trickery , Accumulated Dmg: 407 , Count: 1 , Average Dmg: 407.00Arcane Trickery , Accumulated Dmg: 2607 , Count: 7 , Average Dmg: 372.43Trickster's Grasp , Accumulated Dmg: 6224 , Count: 20 , Average Dmg: 311.20Bum Rush , Accumulated Dmg: 136157 , Count: 673 , Average Dmg: 202.31Low Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 55066 , Count: 297 , Average Dmg: 185.41Giant Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 3873 , Count: 21 , Average Dmg: 184.43Sap , Accumulated Dmg: 38053 , Count: 207 , Average Dmg: 183.83Vicious Stab , Accumulated Dmg: 92117 , Count: 523 , Average Dmg: 176.13Orc Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 1390 , Count: 8 , Average Dmg: 173.75Goblin Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 2551 , Count: 15 , Average Dmg: 170.07Nightblood Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 6039 , Count: 39 , Average Dmg: 154.85Skeleton Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 153 , Count: 1 , Average Dmg: 153.00Tani's Violent Rake , Accumulated Dmg: 21929 , Count: 158 , Average Dmg: 138.79Elisi's Aggressive Stabs , Accumulated Dmg: 131181 , Count: 1111 , Average Dmg: 118.07Disarming Thrust , Accumulated Dmg: 87229 , Count: 791 , Average Dmg: 110.28Ringing Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 5065 , Count: 48 , Average Dmg: 105.52Craven Delight , Accumulated Dmg: 134297 , Count: 1321 , Average Dmg: 101.66Shank , Accumulated Dmg: 112999 , Count: 1197 , Average Dmg: 94.40Voracious Soul , Accumulated Dmg: 4209 , Count: 50 , Average Dmg: 84.18Forceful Negotiation , Accumulated Dmg: 37980 , Count: 466 , Average Dmg: 81.50poison , Accumulated Dmg: 164177 , Count: 2064 , Average Dmg: 79.54Predatory Salve Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 1308 , Count: 22 , Average Dmg: 59.45Vengeful Faith , Accumulated Dmg: 58 , Count: 1 , Average Dmg: 58.00Tani's Circular Flurry , Accumulated Dmg: 14714 , Count: 369 , Average Dmg: 39.88Aggravated Assault , Accumulated Dmg: 29 , Count: 2 , Average Dmg: 14.50---_Total Dmg: 1166453 , Total Count: 9569 , Total Average: 121.90Auto-Attack-----------Total accumulated damage: 350760Total lines parsed: 15469Average hit damage: 22.68Damage value 9 count is 147 0.95%Damage value 10 count is 361 2.33%Damage value 11 count is 321 2.08%Damage value 12 count is 577 3.73%Damage value 13 count is 481 3.11%Damage value 14 count is 686 4.43%Damage value 15 count is 624 4.03%Damage value 16 count is 828 5.35%Damage value 17 count is 582 3.76%Damage value 18 count is 790 5.11%Damage value 19 count is 718 4.64%Damage value 20 count is 692 4.47%Damage value 21 count is 658 4.25%Damage value 22 count is 614 3.97%Damage value 23 count is 845 5.46%Damage value 24 count is 617 3.99%Damage value 25 count is 760 4.91%Damage value 26 count is 600 3.88%Damage value 27 count is 555 3.59%Damage value 28 count is 411 2.66%Damage value 29 count is 399 2.58%Damage value 30 count is 383 2.48%Damage value 31 count is 317 2.05%Damage value 32 count is 372 2.40%Damage value 33 count is 261 1.69%Damage value 34 count is 241 1.56%Damage value 35 count is 261 1.69%Damage value 36 count is 220 1.42%Damage value 37 count is 170 1.10%Damage value 38 count is 183 1.18%Damage value 39 count is 110 0.71%-values under ~1% not shown-Total Dmg: 151721377% CA/HO dmg23% Auto-attack dmg</pre>

[ag]

Ok, level 44 now. using PGT/SBD/Ykesha/FBSSMost of the data below is from yesterday fighting on the ice fields in Everfrost (where the Terrors/Mammoths are)The poison is Corrosive Kiss.<pre>Surprise Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 69766 , Count: 83 , Average Dmg: 840.55Arcane Trickery , Accumulated Dmg: 16413 , Count: 30 , Average Dmg: 547.10Trickster's Grasp , Accumulated Dmg: 7412 , Count: 18 , Average Dmg: 411.78Bushwhack , Accumulated Dmg: 300 , Count: 1 , Average Dmg: 300.00Slow , Accumulated Dmg: 12639 , Count: 46 , Average Dmg: 274.76Bum Rush , Accumulated Dmg: 109303 , Count: 525 , Average Dmg: 208.20Sap , Accumulated Dmg: 30062 , Count: 157 , Average Dmg: 191.48Anarchic Swing , Accumulated Dmg: 1722 , Count: 9 , Average Dmg: 191.33Waylay , Accumulated Dmg: 72378 , Count: 379 , Average Dmg: 190.97Desperate Thrust , Accumulated Dmg: 30591 , Count: 161 , Average Dmg: 190.01Low Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 42870 , Count: 235 , Average Dmg: 182.43Dissonant Note , Accumulated Dmg: 361 , Count: 2 , Average Dmg: 180.50Tani's Violent Rake , Accumulated Dmg: 26218 , Count: 181 , Average Dmg: 144.85Hamstring , Accumulated Dmg: 2398 , Count: 18 , Average Dmg: 133.22Giant Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 257 , Count: 2 , Average Dmg: 128.50Luck's Bite , Accumulated Dmg: 124 , Count: 1 , Average Dmg: 124.00Ringing Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 1794 , Count: 15 , Average Dmg: 119.60Aggravated Assault , Accumulated Dmg: 60790 , Count: 528 , Average Dmg: 115.13Concealed Blade , Accumulated Dmg: 38427 , Count: 371 , Average Dmg: 103.58Craven Delight , Accumulated Dmg: 101608 , Count: 1026 , Average Dmg: 99.03Shank , Accumulated Dmg: 98658 , Count: 1030 , Average Dmg: 95.78Forceful Negotiation , Accumulated Dmg: 1484 , Count: 17 , Average Dmg: 87.29poison , Accumulated Dmg: 26056 , Count: 344 , Average Dmg: 75.74Ykesha's Wrath , Accumulated Dmg: 10207 , Count: 146 , Average Dmg: 69.91Tani's Circular Flurry , Accumulated Dmg: 658 , Count: 16 , Average Dmg: 41.12Maddening Shot , Accumulated Dmg: 2125 , Count: 57 , Average Dmg: 37.28---_Total Dmg: 764621 , Total Count: 5398 , Total Average: 141.65Total accumulated damage: 272015Total lines parsed: 11116Average hit damage: 24.47Damage value 9 count is 4 0.04%Damage value 10 count is 53 0.48%Damage value 11 count is 99 0.89%Damage value 12 count is 315 2.83%Damage value 13 count is 295 2.65%Damage value 14 count is 459 4.13%Damage value 15 count is 335 3.01%Damage value 16 count is 536 4.82%Damage value 17 count is 353 3.18%Damage value 18 count is 542 4.88%Damage value 19 count is 352 3.17%Damage value 20 count is 515 4.63%Damage value 21 count is 591 5.32%Damage value 22 count is 377 3.39%Damage value 23 count is 537 4.83%Damage value 24 count is 397 3.57%Damage value 25 count is 514 4.62%Damage value 26 count is 353 3.18%Damage value 27 count is 506 4.55%Damage value 28 count is 407 3.66%Damage value 29 count is 506 4.55%Damage value 30 count is 396 3.56%Damage value 31 count is 470 4.23%Damage value 32 count is 271 2.44%Damage value 33 count is 436 3.92%Damage value 34 count is 311 2.80%Damage value 35 count is 219 1.97%Damage value 36 count is 201 1.81%Damage value 37 count is 160 1.44%Damage value 38 count is 186 1.67%Damage value 39 count is 93 0.84%Damage value 40 count is 133 1.20%-other values below 1% not shown-Total dmg: 1036636CA/HO/Poison: 74%Auto-Attack: 26%</pre>

[ag]

<div></div>Level 46 now, most of the data below was through 45. Some mentoring thrown in there too.Lines parsed: 22554Start [Thu Mar 24 15:59:13 2005]End [Sun Mar 27 21:27:46 2005]<pre>CA/HO's-------Surprise Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 137322 , Count: 153 , Average Dmg: 897.53Divine Trickery , Accumulated Dmg: 2314 , Count: 5 , Average Dmg: 462.80Luck's Bite , Accumulated Dmg: 1750 , Count: 4 , Average Dmg: 437.50Arcane Trickery , Accumulated Dmg: 5282 , Count: 13 , Average Dmg: 406.31Agonizing Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 1617 , Count: 4 , Average Dmg: 404.25Piercing Faith , Accumulated Dmg: 1151 , Count: 3 , Average Dmg: 383.67Bushwhack , Accumulated Dmg: 1441 , Count: 6 , Average Dmg: 240.17Bum Rush , Accumulated Dmg: 126050 , Count: 583 , Average Dmg: 216.21Anarchic Swing , Accumulated Dmg: 203 , Count: 1 , Average Dmg: 203.00Sap , Accumulated Dmg: 49870 , Count: 251 , Average Dmg: 198.69Dirty Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 54562 , Count: 275 , Average Dmg: 198.41Waylay , Accumulated Dmg: 89934 , Count: 456 , Average Dmg: 197.22Desperate Thrust , Accumulated Dmg: 7976 , Count: 41 , Average Dmg: 194.54Goblin Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 3112 , Count: 16 , Average Dmg: 194.50Giant Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 6131 , Count: 35 , Average Dmg: 175.17Gleaming Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 35560 , Count: 215 , Average Dmg: 165.40Blunted Arrows , Accumulated Dmg: 22363 , Count: 137 , Average Dmg: 163.23Tani's Violent Rake , Accumulated Dmg: 29444 , Count: 196 , Average Dmg: 150.22Hamstring , Accumulated Dmg: 3456 , Count: 24 , Average Dmg: 144.00Ringing Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 5799 , Count: 43 , Average Dmg: 134.86Concealed Blade , Accumulated Dmg: 64502 , Count: 524 , Average Dmg: 123.10Aggravated Assault , Accumulated Dmg: 74515 , Count: 607 , Average Dmg: 122.76Craven Delight , Accumulated Dmg: 108237 , Count: 1054 , Average Dmg: 102.69Shank , Accumulated Dmg: 117918 , Count: 1233 , Average Dmg: 95.64Forceful Negotiation , Accumulated Dmg: 12294 , Count: 137 , Average Dmg: 89.74Toxic Grasp , Accumulated Dmg: 7065 , Count: 86 , Average Dmg: 82.15Voracious Soul , Accumulated Dmg: 1467 , Count: 18 , Average Dmg: 81.50Dynamism , Accumulated Dmg: 3243 , Count: 43 , Average Dmg: 75.42Bloodlusted Wounds , Accumulated Dmg: 1168 , Count: 16 , Average Dmg: 73.00Ykesha's Wrath , Accumulated Dmg: 13727 , Count: 200 , Average Dmg: 68.64Venomous Runes , Accumulated Dmg: 5932 , Count: 90 , Average Dmg: 65.91Predatory Salve Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 799 , Count: 13 , Average Dmg: 61.46Tani's Circular Flurry , Accumulated Dmg: 6628 , Count: 164 , Average Dmg: 40.41---Total Dmg: 1014562 , Total Count: 6663 , Total Average: 152.27Auto-Attack-----------Total accumulated damage: 380689Total lines parsed: 15891Average hit damage: 23.96Damage value 9 count is 90 0.57%Damage value 10 count is 132 0.83%Damage value 11 count is 326 2.05%Damage value 12 count is 495 3.11%Damage value 13 count is 421 2.65%Damage value 14 count is 794 5.00%Damage value 15 count is 482 3.03%Damage value 16 count is 763 4.80%Damage value 17 count is 550 3.46%Damage value 18 count is 813 5.12%Damage value 19 count is 721 4.54%Damage value 20 count is 643 4.05%Damage value 21 count is 745 4.69%Damage value 22 count is 695 4.37%Damage value 23 count is 691 4.35%Damage value 24 count is 655 4.12%Damage value 25 count is 668 4.20%Damage value 26 count is 551 3.47%Damage value 27 count is 684 4.30%Damage value 28 count is 467 2.94%Damage value 29 count is 663 4.17%Damage value 30 count is 555 3.49%Damage value 31 count is 554 3.49%Damage value 32 count is 486 3.06%Damage value 33 count is 311 1.96%Damage value 34 count is 355 2.23%Damage value 35 count is 191 1.20%Damage value 36 count is 284 1.79%Damage value 37 count is 227 1.43%Damage value 38 count is 199 1.25%Damage value 39 count is 104 0.65%Damage value 40 count is 122 0.77%-values under ~1% not shown-Total Dmg: 73% CA/HO dmg27% Auto-attack dmg</pre>

[ag]

And level 47 now, below is for fighting throughout level 46.<pre>CA/HO/Poison:---Surprise Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 311318 , Count: 333 , Average Dmg: 934.89Divine Trickery , Accumulated Dmg: 2314 , Count: 5 , Average Dmg: 462.80Soldier's Gambit , Accumulated Dmg: 909 , Count: 2 , Average Dmg: 454.50Trickster's Grasp , Accumulated Dmg: 17716 , Count: 39 , Average Dmg: 454.26Arcane Trickery , Accumulated Dmg: 10254 , Count: 23 , Average Dmg: 445.83Luck's Bite , Accumulated Dmg: 2130 , Count: 5 , Average Dmg: 426.00Piercing Faith , Accumulated Dmg: 1151 , Count: 3 , Average Dmg: 383.67Agonizing Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 19656 , Count: 54 , Average Dmg: 364.00Bushwhack , Accumulated Dmg: 4025 , Count: 16 , Average Dmg: 251.56Anarchic Swing , Accumulated Dmg: 5685 , Count: 23 , Average Dmg: 247.17Skeleton Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 217 , Count: 1 , Average Dmg: 217.00Bum Rush , Accumulated Dmg: 239262 , Count: 1108 , Average Dmg: 215.94Archaic Shackles , Accumulated Dmg: 212 , Count: 1 , Average Dmg: 212.00Dirty Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 129865 , Count: 631 , Average Dmg: 205.81Waylay , Accumulated Dmg: 217280 , Count: 1059 , Average Dmg: 205.17Sap , Accumulated Dmg: 106132 , Count: 519 , Average Dmg: 204.49Desperate Thrust , Accumulated Dmg: 21757 , Count: 107 , Average Dmg: 203.34Gambit , Accumulated Dmg: 19544 , Count: 99 , Average Dmg: 197.41Goblin Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 3501 , Count: 18 , Average Dmg: 194.50Vicious Stab , Accumulated Dmg: 560 , Count: 3 , Average Dmg: 186.67Low Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 552 , Count: 3 , Average Dmg: 184.00Blooming Flames , Accumulated Dmg: 10701 , Count: 60 , Average Dmg: 178.35Giant Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 13495 , Count: 76 , Average Dmg: 177.57Gleaming Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 69638 , Count: 410 , Average Dmg: 169.85Tani's Violent Rake , Accumulated Dmg: 62886 , Count: 409 , Average Dmg: 153.76Blunted Arrows , Accumulated Dmg: 55766 , Count: 371 , Average Dmg: 150.31Hamstring , Accumulated Dmg: 8981 , Count: 61 , Average Dmg: 147.23Seed of Fire , Accumulated Dmg: 13912 , Count: 104 , Average Dmg: 133.77Aggravated Assault , Accumulated Dmg: 179896 , Count: 1415 , Average Dmg: 127.13Concealed Blade , Accumulated Dmg: 158852 , Count: 1259 , Average Dmg: 126.17Ringing Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 8753 , Count: 73 , Average Dmg: 119.90Shiv , Accumulated Dmg: 100673 , Count: 849 , Average Dmg: 118.58Vicious Flurry , Accumulated Dmg: 232 , Count: 2 , Average Dmg: 116.00Disarming Thrust , Accumulated Dmg: 232 , Count: 2 , Average Dmg: 116.00Craven Delight , Accumulated Dmg: 226228 , Count: 2150 , Average Dmg: 105.22Hidden Shiv , Accumulated Dmg: 396 , Count: 4 , Average Dmg: 99.00Shank , Accumulated Dmg: 157344 , Count: 1629 , Average Dmg: 96.59Forceful Negotiation , Accumulated Dmg: 29301 , Count: 322 , Average Dmg: 91.00poison , Accumulated Dmg: 103143 , Count: 1181 , Average Dmg: 87.34Toxic Grasp , Accumulated Dmg: 7065 , Count: 86 , Average Dmg: 82.15Voracious Soul , Accumulated Dmg: 1519 , Count: 19 , Average Dmg: 79.95Dynamism , Accumulated Dmg: 3921 , Count: 50 , Average Dmg: 78.42Bloodlusted Wounds , Accumulated Dmg: 1168 , Count: 16 , Average Dmg: 73.00Ykesha's Wrath , Accumulated Dmg: 30006 , Count: 418 , Average Dmg: 71.78Venomous Runes , Accumulated Dmg: 5932 , Count: 90 , Average Dmg: 65.91Predatory Salve Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 799 , Count: 13 , Average Dmg: 61.46Restitution , Accumulated Dmg: 60 , Count: 1 , Average Dmg: 60.00Tani's Circular Flurry , Accumulated Dmg: 92727 , Count: 2233 , Average Dmg: 41.53---Total Dmg: 2584437 , Total Count: 21650 , Total Average: 119.37Auto-Attack:---Total accumulated damage: 986710Total lines parsed: 49532Average hit damage: 19.92(snip)Damage value 10 count is 252 0.51%Damage value 11 count is 632 1.28%Damage value 12 count is 954 1.93%Damage value 13 count is 1011 2.04%Damage value 14 count is 1611 3.25%Damage value 15 count is 1267 2.56%Damage value 16 count is 1605 3.24%Damage value 17 count is 1365 2.76%Damage value 18 count is 1678 3.39%Damage value 19 count is 1672 3.38%Damage value 20 count is 1461 2.95%Damage value 21 count is 1596 3.22%Damage value 22 count is 1479 2.99%Damage value 23 count is 1619 3.27%Damage value 24 count is 1410 2.85%Damage value 25 count is 1675 3.38%Damage value 26 count is 1272 2.57%Damage value 27 count is 1571 3.17%Damage value 28 count is 1158 2.34%Damage value 29 count is 1442 2.91%Damage value 30 count is 1254 2.53%Damage value 31 count is 1275 2.57%Damage value 32 count is 1107 2.23%Damage value 33 count is 843 1.70%Damage value 34 count is 899 1.81%Damage value 35 count is 522 1.05%Damage value 36 count is 688 1.39%Damage value 37 count is 535 1.08%Damage value 38 count is 514 1.04%Damage value 39 count is 332 0.67%(snip)Total damage distribution:---72% CA/HO/Poison28% Auto-Attack</pre>

[HyTeKOblivi]

<P>At lvl 46 your average damage for ruse is 934?</P> <P>I have a level 28 brig with an adept 1 ruse and for levels 27 and 28 my average is around 700. My high hit so far is 1200 on a blue mob (using berik SoT), and ruse has a count of about 350 for those 2 levels. (ruse spell reports 750-990 or so, at work right now and don't have the exact numbers)</P> <P>Most of the time I am using pristine t3 kris's, with some Berik SoT thrown in when I need to tank with a shield lol</P> <P>Only other comparable attack I have that I can remember is my adept 1 hidden shiv. My avg is around 75-85 and high hit is I think 130 with a count of around 200.</P> <P>Most of the mobs I fight are blue/white with some yellow since our normal group consist of only 2-3 people. (30 SK, 27 ward, 28 brig)</P> <P>Not sure if your doing yel/org/red for all of your fights, but being your 20 levels above me, you would think the damage would scale alot better then that :smileyindifferent:</P> <DIV>hmm. have to see how the next 2 levels go :smileysurprised:</DIV>

[Dtrick]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> HyTeKOblivion wrote:<BR> <P>At lvl 46 your average damage for ruse is 934?</P> <P>I have a level 28 brig with an adept 1 ruse and for levels 27 and 28 my average is around 700. My high hit so far is 1200 on a blue mob (using berik SoT), and ruse has a count of about 350 for those 2 levels. (ruse spell reports 750-990 or so, at work right now and don't have the exact numbers)</P> <P>Most of the time I am using pristine t3 kris's, with some Berik SoT thrown in when I need to tank with a shield lol</P> <P>Only other comparable attack I have that I can remember is my adept 1 hidden shiv. My avg is around 75-85 and high hit is I think 130 with a count of around 200.</P> <P>Most of the mobs I fight are blue/white with some yellow since our normal group consist of only 2-3 people. (30 SK, 27 ward, 28 brig)</P> <P>Not sure if your doing yel/org/red for all of your fights, but being your 20 levels above me, you would think the damage would scale alot better then that :smileyindifferent:</P> <DIV>hmm. have to see how the next 2 levels go :smileysurprised:</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>You have to remember that ruse greys out around level 33 (I think).  So you are going to get the max damage of ruse in your low 30s.  From then on out, it is basically just a 700 - 1k hit.  Depending on the debuffs on the mob, you can hit higher with ruse.  I think the general concensus is that ruse adept 3 will not go over 1650.  Master 1 will hit 2300+.

[HyTeKOblivi]

<P>well since I am level 28, and don't know the damage levels of other spells in the higher levels, your telling me that a lvl 21 spell is our best spell we have as far as high damage goes? even through level 50?</P> <P>me at level 28, using the best spell I have, can do almost the same average damage as a level 46, where his best spell is the same as mine at 28? (not sure what his ruse is upgraded to, I imagine an adept 1-3)</P> <P>I know every single class....in "any" game has their issues, but there just seems to be something terribly wrong with this lol :smileyindifferent:</P> <P>I would say make min skill 105 like it is and max unlimited and scale the damage accordingly. This has probably been said many times before, if not add this to the brig bug list <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

[Dtrick]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> HyTeKOblivion wrote:<BR> <P>well since I am level 28, and don't know the damage levels of other spells in the higher levels, your telling me that a lvl 21 spell is our best spell we have as far as high damage goes? even through level 50?</P> <P>me at level 28, using the best spell I have, can do almost the same average damage as a level 46, where his best spell is the same as mine at 28? (not sure what his ruse is upgraded to, I imagine an adept 1-3)</P> <P>I know every single class....in "any" game has their issues, but there just seems to be something terribly wrong with this lol :smileyindifferent:</P> <P>I would say make min skill 105 like it is and max unlimited and scale the damage accordingly. This has probably been said many times before, if not add this to the brig bug list <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I am not saying that at level 28 you will do the same average damage as a 46.  At 46 all of your other skills will be upgraded so that will raise the dps of a 46 a lot higher.  I am saying that after ruse greys out, you do not get anymore damage from it.  And yes it is our highest damage skill and we get it at level 21 and it greys out sometime in the 30s.</P> <P>I would love to see a ruse upgrade.  Especially when you see SK's and Warlocks dropping 1500+ bombs all around you; when you used to be the high hitter in the group :smileysad:</P>

[ag]

<blockquote><hr>HyTeKOblivion wrote:<P>well since I am level 28, and don't know the damage levels of other spells in the higher levels, <i>your telling me that a lvl 21 spell is our best spell we have as far as high damage goes?</i> even through level 50?</P> ... <hr></blockquote> (italics mine)In my experience, yes. And my Ruse is Adept 3. However, in the past two days, I've seen a Ruse of 615, and I've seen a Ruse of 1457. The type of mob and the situation cause the effect to vary greatly. But ~1k appears to be typical, as the mean average bears out.I'll be posting L47 parse data shortly here...

[ag]

Here's all the combat data throughout 47. All skills are at least Adept 1.<pre>CA-HO-Poison------------Surprise Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 443054 , Count: 499 , Average Dmg: 887.88Arcane Trickery , Accumulated Dmg: 3699 , Count: 9 , Average Dmg: 411.00Piercing Faith , Accumulated Dmg: 366 , Count: 1 , Average Dmg: 366.00Trickster's Grasp , Accumulated Dmg: 5793 , Count: 16 , Average Dmg: 362.06Luck's Bite , Accumulated Dmg: 3532 , Count: 11 , Average Dmg: 321.09Agonizing Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 4874 , Count: 17 , Average Dmg: 286.71Bushwhack , Accumulated Dmg: 4925 , Count: 19 , Average Dmg: 259.21Gambit , Accumulated Dmg: 199860 , Count: 874 , Average Dmg: 228.67Anarchic Swing , Accumulated Dmg: 5432 , Count: 24 , Average Dmg: 226.33Dirty Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 165759 , Count: 777 , Average Dmg: 213.33Waylay , Accumulated Dmg: 265258 , Count: 1245 , Average Dmg: 213.06Sap , Accumulated Dmg: 111527 , Count: 526 , Average Dmg: 212.03Goblin Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 2749 , Count: 13 , Average Dmg: 211.46Desperate Thrust , Accumulated Dmg: 18475 , Count: 89 , Average Dmg: 207.58Nightblood Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 7786 , Count: 40 , Average Dmg: 194.65Gleaming Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 111112 , Count: 613 , Average Dmg: 181.26Blunted Arrows , Accumulated Dmg: 51405 , Count: 288 , Average Dmg: 178.49Giant Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 2049 , Count: 12 , Average Dmg: 170.75Blooming Flames , Accumulated Dmg: 2339 , Count: 14 , Average Dmg: 167.07Tani's Violent Rake , Accumulated Dmg: 49720 , Count: 313 , Average Dmg: 158.85Hamstring , Accumulated Dmg: 10764 , Count: 70 , Average Dmg: 153.77Seed of Fire , Accumulated Dmg: 3566 , Count: 26 , Average Dmg: 137.15Aggravated Assault , Accumulated Dmg: 224500 , Count: 1693 , Average Dmg: 132.60Concealed Blade , Accumulated Dmg: 213659 , Count: 1624 , Average Dmg: 131.56Ringing Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 4060 , Count: 32 , Average Dmg: 126.88Black Jack , Accumulated Dmg: 124 , Count: 1 , Average Dmg: 124.00Skeleton Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 119 , Count: 1 , Average Dmg: 119.00Shiv , Accumulated Dmg: 258587 , Count: 2213 , Average Dmg: 116.85Craven Delight , Accumulated Dmg: 141618 , Count: 1291 , Average Dmg: 109.70Dynamism , Accumulated Dmg: 17123 , Count: 169 , Average Dmg: 101.32Forceful Negotiation , Accumulated Dmg: 30010 , Count: 315 , Average Dmg: 95.27Sanguine Feedback , Accumulated Dmg: 2199 , Count: 24 , Average Dmg: 91.62poison , Accumulated Dmg: 434353 , Count: 5113 , Average Dmg: 84.95Ykesha's Wrath , Accumulated Dmg: 20677 , Count: 273 , Average Dmg: 75.74Voracious Soul , Accumulated Dmg: 7460 , Count: 119 , Average Dmg: 62.69Predatory Salve Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 388 , Count: 7 , Average Dmg: 55.43Tani's Circular Flurry , Accumulated Dmg: 104622 , Count: 2901 , Average Dmg: 36.06Vengeful Faith , Accumulated Dmg: 320 , Count: 10 , Average Dmg: 32.00---Total Dmg: 2940305 , Total Count: 21293 , Total Average: 138.09Auto-Attack-----------Total accumulated damage: 1220884Total lines parsed: 45903Average hit damage: 26.60(snip)Damage value 9 count is 412 0.90%Damage value 10 count is 599 1.30%Damage value 11 count is 908 1.98%Damage value 12 count is 1035 2.25%Damage value 13 count is 1199 2.61%Damage value 14 count is 1395 3.04%Damage value 15 count is 1575 3.43%Damage value 16 count is 1904 4.15%Damage value 17 count is 1687 3.68%Damage value 18 count is 1888 4.11%Damage value 19 count is 1908 4.16%Damage value 20 count is 1857 4.05%Damage value 21 count is 1852 4.03%Damage value 22 count is 2044 4.45%Damage value 23 count is 1774 3.86%Damage value 24 count is 1804 3.93%Damage value 25 count is 1894 4.13%Damage value 26 count is 1562 3.40%Damage value 27 count is 1541 3.36%Damage value 28 count is 1254 2.73%Damage value 29 count is 1228 2.68%Damage value 30 count is 1299 2.83%Damage value 31 count is 1204 2.62%Damage value 32 count is 1239 2.70%Damage value 33 count is 1079 2.35%Damage value 34 count is 1092 2.38%Damage value 35 count is 805 1.75%Damage value 36 count is 752 1.64%Damage value 37 count is 770 1.68%Damage value 38 count is 757 1.65%Damage value 39 count is 674 1.47%Damage value 40 count is 640 1.39%Damage value 41 count is 668 1.46%Damage value 42 count is 570 1.24%Damage value 43 count is 421 0.92%(snip)Total Damage: 4161189CA-HO-Poison: 71%Auto-Attack: 29%</pre>For the Ruse enthusiast crowd, I've also included below some Ruse specific stats. Ruse values are really evenly distributed, even across 499 samples, so I'm not sure exactly how useful some of this is, but regardless, here you go. I'm at a loss to explain the average Ruse damage drop from Level 46. tinfoil-hat-stealth-nerf? <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><pre>Damage value 907 count is 6 1.20%Damage value 870 count is 5 1.00%Damage value 808 count is 5 1.00%Damage value 782 count is 5 1.00%Damage value 752 count is 5 1.00%Damage value 694 count is 5 1.00%Damage value 1054 count is 4 0.80%Damage value 944 count is 4 0.80%Damage value 933 count is 4 0.80%Damage value 896 count is 4 0.80%Damage value 693 count is 4 0.80%Damage value 679 count is 4 0.80%Damage value 645 count is 4 0.80%Damage value 1048 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 1039 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 1025 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 1020 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 999 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 985 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 981 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 978 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 932 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 931 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 928 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 900 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 892 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 879 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 862 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 855 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 809 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 788 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 783 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 781 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 775 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 767 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 764 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 763 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 762 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 759 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 729 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 726 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 710 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 684 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 663 count is 3 0.60%Damage value 660 count is 3 0.60%(snipped values of 2 occurances or less)Highest: Damage value 1507 count is 1 0.20%Lowest: Damage value 516 count is 1 0.20%</pre>Edit: Formatting<p>Message Edited by agra on <span class=date_text>04-12-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:54 AM</span>

[Blackguard]

<div></div>Thanks a lot for posting this information, agra. Well-researched posts like this that are backed up by numbers definitely help us out. <div></div>

[Dtrick]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Blackguard wrote:<BR> Thanks a lot for posting this information, agra. Well-researched posts like this that are backed up by numbers definitely help us out.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Thanks for all of your help in the past Blackguard.  It is glad to know that our constuctive (non-whinney) posts do not go overlooked.

[GilfalasElaandrin]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> agra wrote:<BR>Another parsing set.. for level 37/38 Brigand with pristine forged feyiron kris/hand-axe. XP'ing in Rivervale, EL, as well as more slaughtering of greys for various quests. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>FYI your weapon listing is wrong. There is no such thing as a pristine forged feyiron kris since the kris is not a player craftable weapon. Was more than likely droped feySTEEL Kris.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Small detail but it matters for accuracy in parsing.</DIV>

[ginathepumpk]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> GilfalasElaandrin wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> agra wrote:<BR>Another parsing set.. for level 37/38 Brigand with pristine forged feyiron kris/hand-axe. XP'ing in Rivervale, EL, as well as more slaughtering of greys for various quests. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>FYI your weapon listing is wrong. There is no such thing as a pristine forged feyiron kris since the kris is not a player craftable weapon. Was more than likely droped feySTEEL Kris.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Small detail but it matters for accuracy in parsing.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>You are wrong. Theres plenty of player made Kris's on the broker. I even had a pristine feysteel kris made a while ago. Pretty sad a weaponsmith of your level doesnt know his products

[Langel]

Dang, I love the parsing you do agra. I wish you played a swashbuckler or, better yet, that I could script a parser as well as you. Good job, as always. <div></div>

[ag]

GilfalasElaandrin:<a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/item.vm?itemId=14113" target=_blank>This</a> may convince you. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> But thank you for keeping me on my toes, regardless.

[Sirlutt]

agra - care to share your perl script ? I'd like to do a similar thing for my 36 Ranger. <div></div>

[ag]

Sure! It can be found <a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=32&message.id=1744#M1744" target=_blank>here</a>.

[ag]

Fighting through Level 48 below, the poison used was "Touch of the Void". Weapons used: SBD and Ykesha. Bow used: cedar longbow.Log start: [Mon Apr 11 11:51:56 2005]Log end: [Tue Apr 19 23:00:51 2005]<pre>CA/HO's/Poison:---------------Surprise Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 153901 , Count: 171 , Average Dmg: 900.01Luck's Bite , Accumulated Dmg: 908 , Count: 2 , Average Dmg: 454.00Arcane Trickery , Accumulated Dmg: 1668 , Count: 4 , Average Dmg: 417.00Divine Trickery , Accumulated Dmg: 739 , Count: 2 , Average Dmg: 369.50Bushwhack , Accumulated Dmg: 3707 , Count: 13 , Average Dmg: 285.15Agonizing Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 17852 , Count: 67 , Average Dmg: 266.45Gambit , Accumulated Dmg: 150737 , Count: 602 , Average Dmg: 250.39Trickster's Grasp , Accumulated Dmg: 1231 , Count: 5 , Average Dmg: 246.20Desperate Thrust , Accumulated Dmg: 11776 , Count: 51 , Average Dmg: 230.90Anarchic Swing , Accumulated Dmg: 12773 , Count: 56 , Average Dmg: 228.09Dirty Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 70648 , Count: 314 , Average Dmg: 224.99Sap , Accumulated Dmg: 46641 , Count: 209 , Average Dmg: 223.16Waylay , Accumulated Dmg: 113231 , Count: 508 , Average Dmg: 222.90Goblin Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 2005 , Count: 9 , Average Dmg: 222.78Giant Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 9863 , Count: 49 , Average Dmg: 201.29Gleaming Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 56494 , Count: 302 , Average Dmg: 187.07Blunted Arrows , Accumulated Dmg: 36429 , Count: 199 , Average Dmg: 183.06Hamstring , Accumulated Dmg: 7629 , Count: 42 , Average Dmg: 181.64Skeleton Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 2179 , Count: 12 , Average Dmg: 181.58Tani's Violent Rake , Accumulated Dmg: 30673 , Count: 178 , Average Dmg: 172.32Aggravated Assault , Accumulated Dmg: 100054 , Count: 709 , Average Dmg: 141.12Concealed Blade , Accumulated Dmg: 80713 , Count: 594 , Average Dmg: 135.88Shiv , Accumulated Dmg: 135697 , Count: 1144 , Average Dmg: 118.62Craven Delight , Accumulated Dmg: 130662 , Count: 1124 , Average Dmg: 116.25poison , Accumulated Dmg: 388827 , Count: 3795 , Average Dmg: 102.46Forceful Negotiation , Accumulated Dmg: 29382 , Count: 293 , Average Dmg: 100.28Bloodlusted Wounds , Accumulated Dmg: 9989 , Count: 103 , Average Dmg: 96.98Ykesha's Wrath , Accumulated Dmg: 13563 , Count: 183 , Average Dmg: 74.11Voracious Soul , Accumulated Dmg: 3106 , Count: 43 , Average Dmg: 72.23Predatory Salve Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 1593 , Count: 23 , Average Dmg: 69.26Flametongue , Accumulated Dmg: 679 , Count: 11 , Average Dmg: 61.73Tani's Circular Flurry , Accumulated Dmg: 30026 , Count: 1010 , Average Dmg: 29.73Shark Bite , Accumulated Dmg: 468 , Count: 47 , Average Dmg: 9.96---Total Dmg: 1676743 , Total Count: 12045 , Total Average: 139.21</pre>and auto attack damage:<pre>Total accumulated damage: 651777Total lines parsed: 23756Average hit damage: 27.44(snip)Damage value 10 count is 224 0.94%Damage value 11 count is 273 1.15%Damage value 12 count is 405 1.70%Damage value 13 count is 472 1.99%Damage value 14 count is 565 2.38%Damage value 15 count is 670 2.82%Damage value 16 count is 771 3.25%Damage value 17 count is 818 3.44%Damage value 18 count is 939 3.95%Damage value 19 count is 836 3.52%Damage value 20 count is 922 3.88%Damage value 21 count is 979 4.12%Damage value 22 count is 934 3.93%Damage value 23 count is 885 3.73%Damage value 24 count is 855 3.60%Damage value 25 count is 927 3.90%Damage value 26 count is 858 3.61%Damage value 27 count is 859 3.62%Damage value 28 count is 652 2.74%Damage value 29 count is 704 2.96%Damage value 30 count is 670 2.82%Damage value 31 count is 736 3.10%Damage value 32 count is 677 2.85%Damage value 33 count is 644 2.71%Damage value 34 count is 678 2.85%Damage value 35 count is 600 2.53%Damage value 36 count is 511 2.15%Damage value 37 count is 394 1.66%Damage value 38 count is 411 1.73%Damage value 39 count is 424 1.78%Damage value 40 count is 390 1.64%Damage value 41 count is 387 1.63%Damage value 42 count is 337 1.42%Damage value 43 count is 310 1.30%Damage value 44 count is 291 1.22%Damage value 45 count is 241 1.01%Damage value 46 count is 156 0.66%(snip)</pre>Total Dmg: 2328520CA/HO/Poison: 72%Auto Attack: 28%

[Gyilok]

question: poison value extremely high compared to any CA (more then double than the highest), is it possible that it also includes the poison dmg of the assassin in group?

[ag]

The poison value is treated the same as the rest of the CA/HO's, that is, it only parses the lines with YOU or YOUR in them, specifically. This would exclude anyone else in the group/area.I suspect the reason the poison value is so high is the recent change to 200 proc's for player crafted poisons. In the past, I didn't make my own poison, so I didn't have it on 100% of the time. Now, it's <i>always</i> there.

[Gyilok]

well then poison is your main dd , no CA/HO even touches half the value poison does, which is a good but not a cheap thing <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[ag]

Agreed. My parses of all my L48 data showed poison to be equivalent to one hand of damage.What I mean by that is the DPS of my SBD <u>or</u> SSOY was what poison was DPS'ing. It's like a third hand! Only $19.95 and a free paring knife!*ahem*It costs me ~25 silver (including sellbacks and multi-result combines) per 7 charges of 200 procs to make T5 poison. This is not an unreasonable price, imo, when you gain 2-4g per hour of casual group fighting. Yes, we're paying for our DPS, but I can pull aggro off of <b>ANY</b> tank with my DPS typically at 100-160 and higher if I really go hard. Seems appropriate.

[ag]

Made level 50 yesterday, here's the L49 parse.. No gear changes from 49, same poison.<pre>CA/HO/Poison------------Surprise Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 153135 , Count: 178 , Average Dmg: 860.31Arcane Trickery , Accumulated Dmg: 2655 , Count: 6 , Average Dmg: 442.50Luck's Bite , Accumulated Dmg: 1444 , Count: 4 , Average Dmg: 361.00Trickster's Grasp , Accumulated Dmg: 3168 , Count: 9 , Average Dmg: 352.00Agonizing Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 2354 , Count: 9 , Average Dmg: 261.56Gambit , Accumulated Dmg: 241088 , Count: 985 , Average Dmg: 244.76Anarchic Swing , Accumulated Dmg: 2670 , Count: 11 , Average Dmg: 242.73Waylay , Accumulated Dmg: 148673 , Count: 675 , Average Dmg: 220.26Dirty Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 95274 , Count: 434 , Average Dmg: 219.53Desperate Thrust , Accumulated Dmg: 30798 , Count: 142 , Average Dmg: 216.89Sap , Accumulated Dmg: 70261 , Count: 333 , Average Dmg: 210.99Giant Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 11501 , Count: 57 , Average Dmg: 201.77Gleaming Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 15791 , Count: 84 , Average Dmg: 187.99Blunted Arrows , Accumulated Dmg: 95411 , Count: 530 , Average Dmg: 180.02Ringing Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 2086 , Count: 12 , Average Dmg: 173.83Tani's Violent Rake , Accumulated Dmg: 43639 , Count: 265 , Average Dmg: 164.68Run Through , Accumulated Dmg: 8941 , Count: 55 , Average Dmg: 162.56Aggravated Assault , Accumulated Dmg: 135649 , Count: 993 , Average Dmg: 136.61Concealed Blade , Accumulated Dmg: 104224 , Count: 770 , Average Dmg: 135.36Shiv , Accumulated Dmg: 225133 , Count: 1954 , Average Dmg: 115.22Craven Delight , Accumulated Dmg: 211514 , Count: 1854 , Average Dmg: 114.09poison , Accumulated Dmg: 356868 , Count: 3310 , Average Dmg: 107.82Forceful Negotiation , Accumulated Dmg: 52778 , Count: 513 , Average Dmg: 102.88Voracious Soul , Accumulated Dmg: 13497 , Count: 174 , Average Dmg: 77.57Ykesha's Wrath , Accumulated Dmg: 29722 , Count: 387 , Average Dmg: 76.80Tani's Circular Flurry , Accumulated Dmg: 9667 , Count: 314 , Average Dmg: 30.79---Total Dmg: 2072771 , Total Count: 14065 , Total Average: 147.37Auto-Attack-----------Total accumulated damage: 699858Total lines parsed: 24853Average hit damage: 28.16Damage value 11 count is 68 0.27%Damage value 12 count is 283 1.14%Damage value 13 count is 461 1.85%Damage value 14 count is 567 2.28%Damage value 15 count is 690 2.78%Damage value 16 count is 803 3.23%Damage value 17 count is 822 3.31%Damage value 18 count is 910 3.66%Damage value 19 count is 912 3.67%Damage value 20 count is 940 3.78%Damage value 21 count is 1022 4.11%Damage value 22 count is 857 3.45%Damage value 23 count is 895 3.60%Damage value 24 count is 886 3.56%Damage value 25 count is 895 3.60%Damage value 26 count is 898 3.61%Damage value 27 count is 920 3.70%Damage value 28 count is 837 3.37%Damage value 29 count is 971 3.91%Damage value 30 count is 847 3.41%Damage value 31 count is 879 3.54%Damage value 32 count is 909 3.66%Damage value 33 count is 872 3.51%Damage value 34 count is 856 3.44%Damage value 35 count is 732 2.95%Damage value 36 count is 680 2.74%Damage value 37 count is 581 2.34%Damage value 38 count is 514 2.07%Damage value 39 count is 416 1.67%Damage value 40 count is 342 1.38%Damage value 41 count is 363 1.46%Damage value 42 count is 356 1.43%Damage value 43 count is 333 1.34%Damage value 44 count is 287 1.15%Damage value 45 count is 231 0.93%(snip)</pre>Total Damage: 2772629CA/HO/Poison: 75%Auto-Attack: 25%and just for variety, ca/ho/poison damage sorted by accumulated damage, instead of per hit damage:(Amazingly, poison accounts for 13% of my TOTAL combined damage. Yowza!)<pre>poison , Accumulated Dmg: 356868 , Count: 3310 , Average Dmg: 107.82Gambit , Accumulated Dmg: 241088 , Count: 985 , Average Dmg: 244.76Shiv , Accumulated Dmg: 225133 , Count: 1954 , Average Dmg: 115.22Craven Delight , Accumulated Dmg: 211514 , Count: 1854 , Average Dmg: 114.09Surprise Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 153135 , Count: 178 , Average Dmg: 860.31Waylay , Accumulated Dmg: 148673 , Count: 675 , Average Dmg: 220.26Aggravated Assault , Accumulated Dmg: 135649 , Count: 993 , Average Dmg: 136.61Concealed Blade , Accumulated Dmg: 104224 , Count: 770 , Average Dmg: 135.36Blunted Arrows , Accumulated Dmg: 95411 , Count: 530 , Average Dmg: 180.02Dirty Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 95274 , Count: 434 , Average Dmg: 219.53Sap , Accumulated Dmg: 70261 , Count: 333 , Average Dmg: 210.99Forceful Negotiation , Accumulated Dmg: 52778 , Count: 513 , Average Dmg: 102.88Tani's Violent Rake , Accumulated Dmg: 43639 , Count: 265 , Average Dmg: 164.68Desperate Thrust , Accumulated Dmg: 30798 , Count: 142 , Average Dmg: 216.89Ykesha's Wrath , Accumulated Dmg: 29722 , Count: 387 , Average Dmg: 76.80Gleaming Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 15791 , Count: 84 , Average Dmg: 187.99Voracious Soul , Accumulated Dmg: 13497 , Count: 174 , Average Dmg: 77.57Giant Master's Sinister Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 11501 , Count: 57 , Average Dmg: 201.77Tani's Circular Flurry , Accumulated Dmg: 9667 , Count: 314 , Average Dmg: 30.79Run Through , Accumulated Dmg: 8941 , Count: 55 , Average Dmg: 162.56Trickster's Grasp , Accumulated Dmg: 3168 , Count: 9 , Average Dmg: 352.00Anarchic Swing , Accumulated Dmg: 2670 , Count: 11 , Average Dmg: 242.73Arcane Trickery , Accumulated Dmg: 2655 , Count: 6 , Average Dmg: 442.50Agonizing Strike , Accumulated Dmg: 2354 , Count: 9 , Average Dmg: 261.56Ringing Blow , Accumulated Dmg: 2086 , Count: 12 , Average Dmg: 173.83Luck's Bite , Accumulated Dmg: 1444 , Count: 4 , Average Dmg: 361.00</pre>So that's that. Any further parses will be in a new thread, as it will be all Level 50 data.

[Dtrick]

<P>Gratz on level 50 Agra!  What app version are all of your skills at?  I harvested a ruby the other day, and I am torn over which skill I should upgrade first.  Going off your parse, my adept 3 upgrade order would be:</P> <P>Gambit, Waylay, Dirty Blow, Desperate Thrust, Sap</P>

[ag]

I have adept 1's of everything, except Ruse which is Adept 3. My level 50 skills are app2 at the moment, but hopefully app4 or higher soon. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />And for informational purposes..You give the merchant 1 Gold, 24 Silver, 42 Copper for Debilitate (Apprentice II).You give the merchant 1 Gold, 24 Silver, 42 Copper for Disable (Apprentice II).You give the merchant 1 Gold, 24 Silver, 42 Copper for Subdue (Apprentice II).You give the merchant 1 Gold, 24 Silver, 42 Copper for Wrangle (Apprentice II).You give the merchant 9 Gold, 21 Silver, 60 Copper for Disguise: Ogre.9 freaking gold, yep.And yes, we get Disable, despite them taking away Hamstring. For the moment, this slightly makes up for the fact that Wrangle is a useless waste of bytes. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />