I know it will never happen, but we can wish. an all brigand group.

[Molando]

I know this would never happen, on my server I have never bumped into another brigand, and the few times I have done a /who there have never been any others on. But could you imagine a 6 brigand group all with ruse at adept 3 or master...Oh look giant.... woomph (I play with the sound off, so this is the sound I think ruse should make)60 seconds later..Oh look a named giant... WOOMPH..60 seconds later...woomph.......Oh lookie, a name mob with 2 guards...woomph.woomph. WOOMPH... (ok, 4 for the main chap, and 1 brigand for each guard, would probably mean that the guards would still need to be worked over a bit)

[Annubi]

Only problem with this scenario is that Ruse is pain and suffering, which means that if you kill the last mob in an encounter with it you do not get the group encounter bonus exp, and you lose any quest credit you may have gotten. Found this out while camping the rather gray Captain Hess in Stormhold. After 2 hours, he spawned, I killed him, killed one of his guards, and rused his second guard just because I was bored. Ended up having to camp him again. Talk about [Removed for Content]....

[Justin Sa]

<DIV>You should have gotten quest credit. I always get that atleast.</DIV>

[Dimidri]

<DIV>Come to Oggok. There is actually more Brigands than Swashbucklers a lot of the time. I've done a /who all Brigand and /who all Buckler several times this month, no less than 10, and aruond 7 of the times the numbers were exactly the same. Twice Swashbucklers had either one or 2 more. Once there were 3 more Brigands.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I've partied with plenty of Brigands. More often than not though, the other scout in my party will be an Assassin.</DIV>

[Molando]

I have never lost quest credit, and have probably killed over 100 quest mobs with ruse. (normally these 'quests' are kill x number of mobs, or kill x to collect y. Other quests may not work)

[Annubi]

This was not a kill x number of mobs quest, this was kill Named Mob. Got the message saying I would get quest credit at the end of the fight, but when I finished the fight, I had not actually gotten credit. I think that the system may be looking at bonus experience in grouped quest mob situations, because I did not get bonus experience for completing the encounter, either.But hey, your mileage will vary. I for one will never finish an encounter with Ruse again.

[Redknigh]

<DIV>Annubi speaks the truth!</DIV>

[Kegofbud]

<DIV> I bugged 1 quest finishing with Ruse. The Zek Boat ride. We killed the last Orc of the encounter with Ruse. Never got the quest update and we were just sitting there on the ship. I petitioned a GM and didn't get a reply until 3-4 hours later while I had already redone the trip, went back to my room and was selling for the evening. I sent him a hardy thanks the next morning for responding so quickly to our issue. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> "I guess you must've used your Call to Qeynos." he said. Good call sir! A brigand with "Call to Qeynos".  Anyway, after hearing people say it lost group mob bonus experience, I have watched it and sometimes it does lose the bonus xp if the encounter ends with a death by pain and suffering.  That one boat ride was the only time I've been bugged on a quest by it though. Normal "kill 10 XXXX" I have never had an issue with an update.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>  A friend of mine is a Brigand and we've done a lot of goruping together alone just taking on things we have no business fighting since we both had Adept 3 Ruse. Nice knowing you've got that damage in the bank.</DIV>