Going down Agi (Solo/duo-heavy)

[Ictum]

Hello guys.I'm now 14444 Agi, with 2 AA to spare, and I'm wondering what I should spend them on. I choosed Agi over Str since I'm not that wealthy, so my gear wont be topnotch for the most part.What should I spend those 2 points in, what to do next, you get the idea <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.<div></div>

[Rokjin]

<DIV>If you Solo/Duo a lot, STA line could help you a lot.</DIV>

[Delow]

If you solo/duo you would probably be better off going down STR/STA rather than getting AGI. AGI is heavily set to being behind the mob for maximum efficiency so if you are soloing you wont be behind the mob as often as you would like to get the maximum effect of that line. If you duo I would assume you are tanking and you have a healer with you (unless you are duoing with a paladin or something) in which case you would benefit far more from STA/STR over AGI and something else.<div></div>

[Ictum]

<div></div>I should've given ya more info.a) I can't respec since it costs more money than I can make in a lifetime (a friend gave me money for my last one, couldn't afford it myself)b) I'm duoing with zerkers since both of my friends (same level) play zerks with really good gear. We mostly AoEgrind when we duo, but 50% of the time we do instances when we play together. They obviously play the role of tanks.Looking at the agility line it seems to me that the only AA there worth spending 8 points on would be the finisher (should I sit and wait until I have 8 points?) and Avast Ye, since walk the plank and the +% MS is semi-useless above rank 4.Agi 44488Str 4458Aka, work up Avast Ye to 8, then go down strline, then as my last 8 points dump em into Sailwind. Sounds good?<div></div><p>Message Edited by Ictum on <span class=date_text>12-28-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:28 AM</span>

[Delow]

If a respec isnt an option and you don't do a lot of tanking then STR/AGI would be the best option for you since you really wont have access to a really great 1h weapon until your around 70. AGI all the way down to Avast Ye and get it to 8, then do STR line and get all the way down to crits and get it to 8. Once that is done go for the finisher for AGI if you want otherwise throw the remaining points into something else. That is how I would handle it if it were me.<div></div>

[Stormcrest]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Delowen wrote:If a respec isnt an option and you don't do a lot of tanking then STR/AGI would be the best option for you since you really wont have access to a really great 1h weapon until your around 70. AGI all the way down to Avast Ye and get it to 8, then do STR line and get all the way down to crits and get it to 8. Once that is done go for the finisher for AGI if you want otherwise throw the remaining points into something else. That is how I would handle it if it were me.<div></div><hr></blockquote>I played a Swashie up to 40 a long time ago (or so it seems) pre LU-13... I liked the toon a lot, but went the healer route and got rid of the toon (since I already had a higher level scout, a ranger).I recently rolled a new Swashie, and have been getting a headache trying to decide which route to go Rogue AA wise. Maybe this thread will end up helping me make my mind up which way to go.Basically, I have been looking long and hard at the AGI line. I group frequently, but also solo a good deal. I have a 70 Warden and a 67 Ranger financing this little guy, so I am twinking him a little. The WIS line is where I wanted to go, but reading a lot of these posts saying that you pretty much need a Fabled one hander to really push the WIS line makes me nervous. From a small family guild of RL family, we don't raid, but have no issues tearing through the harder heroic instances and the occasional x2. Most of the Fabled one-handers are no-trade of course, so for the tougher heroic content, would being limited to Legendary one handers with the WIS/AGI line or WIS/STR line make this less effective than a STR/AGI Dual-Wield set-up?Sorry for being so wordy, but want to get as much detail as possible out there in the event someone has some insight towards which setup fits my play style. I like the looks of Avast Ye, especially for when grouping and not just using Walk the Plank for the occasional proc. Our tanks are awesome about keeping the mobs back to the group in almost every environment, so would expect a good turnout from Avast Ye. I do off-tank occasionally just long enough to grab an ill-timed add off a healer or mage, but only long enough for our MT to be able to grab it (yes, I do this both with my melee based Warden and my Ranger...good times) so I don't think that the STA line would be of benefit really. Sooo.... with all that blabbering, does STR/AGI or WIS/AGI or STR/WIS seem to fit my style of play the best? Light off-tanking, dps oriented, highest heroic equipment possible or pickup raid dropped (mastercrafted on transitional periods per tier), decent amount of soloing... and all about the style and appearance of the toon. Any advice from anyone? </div><p>Message Edited by Knightcrest on <span class=date_text>12-28-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:05 AM</span>

[Siru]

<P>I am a strong advocate of str/agi.... I have a big work up comparing them to wis but i'm too much of a newbie to be able to post it on the forums (It's in excel.... yeah, busy day at work :smileytongue<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Without a fantastic 1hander wisdom auto attacks actually do less dps when you factor in the amount of auto attack time you're giving yourself with Sailwind from the agi line.  Avast ye is absolutely amazing, it is between 6 and 9% of my total dps in most zonewide parses.</P> <P>STR/AGI gives me great group DPS, good solo dps, plenty of offtanking capability (with walk the plank, aggro is easier than ever to pick up.)  And you cant beat the look of 2 rapiers! </P>

[Delow]

<div><blockquote><hr>Knightcrest wrote:<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Delowen wrote:If a respec isnt an option and you don't do a lot of tanking then STR/AGI would be the best option for you since you really wont have access to a really great 1h weapon until your around 70. AGI all the way down to Avast Ye and get it to 8, then do STR line and get all the way down to crits and get it to 8. Once that is done go for the finisher for AGI if you want otherwise throw the remaining points into something else. That is how I would handle it if it were me.<div></div><hr></blockquote>I played a Swashie up to 40 a long time ago (or so it seems) pre LU-13... I liked the toon a lot, but went the healer route and got rid of the toon (since I already had a higher level scout, a ranger).I recently rolled a new Swashie, and have been getting a headache trying to decide which route to go Rogue AA wise. Maybe this thread will end up helping me make my mind up which way to go.Basically, I have been looking long and hard at the AGI line. I group frequently, but also solo a good deal. I have a 70 Warden and a 67 Ranger financing this little guy, so I am twinking him a little. The WIS line is where I wanted to go, but reading a lot of these posts saying that you pretty much need a Fabled one hander to really push the WIS line makes me nervous. From a small family guild of RL family, we don't raid, but have no issues tearing through the harder heroic instances and the occasional x2. Most of the Fabled one-handers are no-trade of course, so for the tougher heroic content, would being limited to Legendary one handers with the WIS/AGI line or WIS/STR line make this less effective than a STR/AGI Dual-Wield set-up?Sorry for being so wordy, but want to get as much detail as possible out there in the event someone has some insight towards which setup fits my play style. I like the looks of Avast Ye, especially for when grouping and not just using Walk the Plank for the occasional proc. Our tanks are awesome about keeping the mobs back to the group in almost every environment, so would expect a good turnout from Avast Ye. I do off-tank occasionally just long enough to grab an ill-timed add off a healer or mage, but only long enough for our MT to be able to grab it (yes, I do this both with my melee based Warden and my Ranger...good times) so I don't think that the STA line would be of benefit really. Sooo.... with all that blabbering, does STR/AGI or WIS/AGI or STR/WIS seem to fit my style of play the best? Light off-tanking, dps oriented, highest heroic equipment possible or pickup raid dropped (mastercrafted on transitional periods per tier), decent amount of soloing... and all about the style and appearance of the toon. Any advice from anyone? </div><p>Message Edited by Knightcrest on <span class="date_text">12-28-2006</span> <span class="time_text">10:05 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>STR/AGI would fit you best, you really wont see the full effect of STR/WIS unless you have a great 1h weapon. I currently use an Ancient Velium Rapier with STR/WIS because its one of the best 1h weapons you can buy. I am also in a raiding guild so I will eventually upgrade to a fabled weapon but until then I have no problems with my sustained DPS in raids and groups with my legendary weapon.</div>

[Stormcrest]

Thanks for the extra information. The best one hander I have in storage at the moment the Doomrage, so I think I will stick with the STR/AGI build unless some freak occurance happens and I end up with an insane one hander. Thanks again.<div></div>