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Cocytus
12-06-2006, 04:25 AM
<DIV>Was it a nerf today? Did our mitigation/avoidance take a huge hit, what have you noticed?<BR><BR>Also, how hard were the 400 HP shoulder adorns hit?</DIV><p>Message Edited by Cocytus on <span class=date_text>12-05-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:25 PM</span>

m0ya
12-06-2006, 07:14 AM
<DIV>1) Shoulders and Hat = now 100hp/pwr.</DIV> <DIV>2) Ring = like 70 pwr/hp or something close to that.</DIV> <DIV>3) My mit SEEMS to be down off.... 300-400...</DIV>

Twiztd
12-06-2006, 09:19 AM
my health seemed to go up about 300..  i have all relic accept the hat... and my mit dropped about 700... <div></div>

Ahven
12-06-2006, 10:51 AM
I didn't see anything about a nerf and I'm exactly the same as I was before. They simply took the avoidance % from armor and made it class based, so now as a swashy your base avoid will always be at the chain lvl, it removed one of the reasons for wearing leather is all it really did since even if you wear leather your avoid will still act like you are wearing chain. This was done to fix the tanking naked and wearing cloth armor thing.<div></div>

Turb
12-06-2006, 06:49 PM
I guess the adornment adjustment and mit/avoid changes are independent.There were L70 tanks wearing Tier1 cloth to get better avoidance (big avoidance). I suspect this change corrects that (tho I've not logged to check yet).

liveja
12-06-2006, 10:07 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cocytus wrote:<BR> <DIV>Was it a nerf today? Did our mitigation/avoidance take a huge hit, what have you noticed?<BR> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I didn't notice any hit yesterday, much less a huge one.</P> <P>Of course, I don't raid, so I don't know anything about raid mobs & all that stuff, but I do know I can still solo as well as I ever could, & I'm still doing nice DPS in groups, so I don't see the problem.<BR></P>

the flu
12-06-2006, 11:06 PM
I didn't notice much difference in numbers on my persona sheet and in my actual tanking/soloing ability, but then I've always worn chain and ignored cloth leather except for social situations where looks are more important than protection.<div></div>I think this was definatly more fix than nerf.

Cocytus
12-07-2006, 05:03 AM
<DIV>After playing a night, i did not notice anything either. I noticed they changed something about our avoidance - but my avoidance number is the exact same as it was before.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>No real change from what I see other than the HP/Power adorns. Whew.</DIV>

Luk
12-07-2006, 09:29 AM
avoidance was changed to reflect the highest armor you can wear, not what armour you do wear, this is because guardians were tanking in cloth and getting 12K+ avoidance so if you wear chain, you would see no difference, but if you wear leather there would be an adjustment.From update notes<div>- All classes now determine their base avoidance based on their class rather than the avoidance offered by their armor. For every class, the amount of avoidance for each class is equal to the original amount of avoidance offered by the heaviest armor they could wear before the update.</div> <div>    </div> <div>      * Guardians, Berserkers, Paladins, Shadowknights, Templars, Inquisitors: 5% Avoidance      * Assassin, Ranger, Brigand, Swashbuckler, Dirge, Troubador, Defiler, Mystic: 10% Avoidance      * Warden, Fury, Monk, Bruiser: 15% Avoidance      * Wizard, Warlock, Coercer, Illusionist, Necromancer, Conjurer: 24% Avoidance</div><div></div>

khurath
12-07-2006, 02:10 PM
<P>When did this happen?<BR>I checked avoidance with chain and leather recently and there was a difference.<BR>In fact I was harvesting dragonhide to have my leather suit.</P>

Luk
12-07-2006, 07:08 PM
<div><blockquote><hr>khurath wrote:<div></div> <p>When did this happen?I checked avoidance with chain and leather recently and there was a difference.In fact I was harvesting dragonhide to have my leather suit.</p><hr></blockquote><a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=tup&message.id=161" target=_blank>linky</a></div>

Cocytus
12-08-2006, 04:24 AM
<P>Well, this quashes the arguments of a gimpy swash I know who is always going on and on about how swashbucklers should wear leather.</P> <P> </P> <P>/cackle</P>