Swashie's and the God's...

[nnils]

<DIV>Ok from what i can see most of the gods ither lean to caster's and tanks's...  Oh and Brell whos a crafting god...  Ok so i need some help what gods are other swashies going for and why??</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>52 Swashie</DIV> <DIV>Nagafen (PVP)</DIV>

[CB3]

<DIV>Marr is the only good/neutral god worthwhile for meleers imo</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Most the blessings increase your dmg some and add some minor boost to parry or mitigation or even a heal.  Overall theres not much for raw all out bursts of dps from any of the melee gods but marr has a few that rock.  Plus hes good for when you get in trouble while soloing or doing some light tanking.  The Marr cloak is decent too.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Zek is better for more raw dps but those cost you alot of hp.  Not that zek is an option for us <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Terron]

Of course the real question is which god has most style? Select for the answer: <font color="#663300">The one I pick.</font> <div></div>

[Liil]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> CB3 wrote:<BR> <DIV>Marr is the only good/neutral god worthwhile for meleers imo</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Most the blessings increase your dmg some and add some minor boost to parry or mitigation or even a heal.  Overall theres not much for raw all out bursts of dps from any of the melee gods but marr has a few that rock.  Plus hes good for when you get in trouble while soloing or doing some light tanking.  The Marr cloak is decent too.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Zek is better for more raw dps but those cost you alot of hp.  Not that zek is an option for us <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Ok,  after reading through the gods i was gonna choose Rallos Zek,  then i read this.  What am i missing?  Why isnt he a good choice?  </P> <P>I am not interested in soloing or tanking or any of those other things most peeps on here seem to post about.  I am a raider.  Seemed to be some nice DPS stuff in there to me.  Am i wrong to chose Zek?</P>

[SmCaudata]

<div><blockquote><hr>Liil wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> CB3 wrote: <div></div> <div>Marr is the only good/neutral god worthwhile for meleers imo</div> <div> </div> <div>Most the blessings increase your dmg some and add some minor boost to parry or mitigation or even a heal.  Overall theres not much for raw all out bursts of dps from any of the melee gods but marr has a few that rock.  Plus hes good for when you get in trouble while soloing or doing some light tanking.  The Marr cloak is decent too.</div> <div> </div> <div>Zek is better for more raw dps but those cost you alot of hp.  Not that zek is an option for us <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div> <div> </div> <hr> </blockquote> <p>Ok,  after reading through the gods i was gonna choose Rallos Zek,  then i read this.  What am i missing?  Why isnt he a good choice?  </p> <p>I am not interested in soloing or tanking or any of those other things most peeps on here seem to post about.  I am a raider.  Seemed to be some nice DPS stuff in there to me.  Am i wrong to chose Zek?</p><hr></blockquote>Good classes cannot choose Zek. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

[Liil]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> SmCaudata wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Liil wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> CB3 wrote:<BR> <DIV>Marr is the only good/neutral god worthwhile for meleers imo</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Most the blessings increase your dmg some and add some minor boost to parry or mitigation or even a heal.  Overall theres not much for raw all out bursts of dps from any of the melee gods but marr has a few that rock.  Plus hes good for when you get in trouble while soloing or doing some light tanking.  The Marr cloak is decent too.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Zek is better for more raw dps but those cost you alot of hp.  Not that zek is an option for us <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Ok,  after reading through the gods i was gonna choose Rallos Zek,  then i read this.  What am i missing?  Why isnt he a good choice?  </P> <P>I am not interested in soloing or tanking or any of those other things most peeps on here seem to post about.  I am a raider.  Seemed to be some nice DPS stuff in there to me.  Am i wrong to chose Zek?</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Good classes cannot choose Zek. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Defintely a good enough reason <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Thanks lol.</P> <P>Back to the drawing board  for me </P>

[Rueny]

<div></div> On Beta I tried Sol Ro and there were a few blessings that were usefull.  One was a 13,000 DD that worked once an hour and the other was a 10 min fully functional fire pet hat was a real nice DPS boost.  The reason I'm not going for Sol Ro now is because the cloak effect procs only off of offensive spells cast by the Toon. I'm going for Brell this time,   He has 2 real good attacks.  On Beta they were both AE.  His topped off ability isn't bad either...<b><span></span>Rift from Below (1125)</b>6s duration, max AE targets 15Inflicts 2190-5109 crushing damage on targets in Area of EffectInflicts 344-803 crushing damage on targets in Area of Effect every 3 seconds_Throws target back<b>Forgehammer (1500)</b>Stuns targetInflicts 6100-7455 divine damage on targetEpic targets duration is reduced to 3s<div></div><b>Protection of Brell (1875)</b>Increases Mitigation of caster vs all physical damage by 3500Applies The Hand of Brell on termination- Heals group members for 30% of max health

[SmCaudata]

What does brell's cloak give?  Marr's give a DPS proc, but it doesn't have the damage like Zek's.<div></div>

[Skua]

zek wins =/ meh soe

[Dark_Sun]

Ive heard that Brells cloak gives regen and miti.but there is also fun pets from the gods. But they give buffs. Marr has lion i think and it gives you 28 str(?)And i heard that Brells pet gives dps mod buff.but this is just rumors and unconfirmed info.

[Franco2254]

<P>Having a hard time deciding between brell and marr. Alot of discussion last night in the swashy channel and there seem a 50-50 split. Marr has a better cloak for a swashy. But brell seems to be a little better for abillitlys.</P> <P> </P> <P>Brownwolf Shadowblade</P> <P>70 Swashbuckler</P> <P>Dracos Argent,Butcherblock</P> <P> </P>

[standupwookie]

This first Marr ability is real nice for soloers.  Brell has some nice AEs.  Marr has a better end game cloak.Neither is really what a swashy should worship.  Bristlebane should have been added, or Erollisi (his sister) should have been added.  Tunare would seem the logical choice for a good aligned, stealthy rogue but even rangers wont choose her, and I think she has a ranger ability.Evil plate tanks are in the same boat as good sneaksters.

[Shagg]

Brells cloak gives Regen X and a clicky summon ale for group 1x/norrathian day (novelty). I'm hoping there are better dropped legendary/fabled cloaks that come my way soon. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Marr's DPS boost blessing/miracle also increases hate gain by 25% IIRC. I think even without the hate gain increase you'd be tagging agro with just the DPS/Haste boosts, so it may not be such a great raid utility. As a Dwarf Swash I like worshipping Brell and his abilities aren't that bad. I get a neat cloak and a pet pick axe to toss out there occasionally. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[Cocytus]

<DIV>I personally pick a god based on miracles/blessings, not a cloak. I'm getting a Cloak of Flames when I figure out where it starts. That'll be better than any non-fabled cloak.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Brell has one, maybe two buffs regarding crafting.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As it is now:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Marr's Cloak is much better than Brell's Cloak.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Brell's Miracles and blessings (for a swashbuckler) [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ing blow Marr's away.</DIV>

[mikemastermikeymike]

Im exile Rallos Zek FTW!

[liveja]

Sorry for the n00b question, but ... where do I go to start the GOD quests?

[intensive]

You start with the historian on the Dock in Butcherblock.

[Shagg]

BTW heads up to Brell worshippers, the Pick Axe you could summon on beta was a novel little attack pet, now its a freaking harvesting no-zone item. BOOOOOOOOO!There are better blessings anyway, I just liked throwing the pick axe at things for novelty. Oh well.<div></div>

[Thunnda]

<P>I picked Brell and I am on the 4th quest.</P> <P>Just finding it a little overly hard.</P> <P>Level 65 quest sending you to mistmoore?</P>

[Cocytus]

<P>Mistmoore *catacombs*, not mistmoore itself.</P> <P> </P> <P>Also...Exiling for two one-hour recast abilities? No thanks. Not worth losing access to premier quests and guild benefits. Heh.</P>

[MrDiz]

2 questsions:1) What abilities does brell have for swashys?2) If i switch to brell can i still wear the Marr cloak? its a sexy blue that looks utterly supperb with the relic hat & chest, with the purple shoulders, red trouser and purple boots I have. I know it sounds like a colour explosion, but it really really works. I look like a Muskateer <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Twiztd]

from what i heard from the people in beta you can keep the cloaks when you renounce from your god.... i worship marr right now but im thinking of going to brell.. but i still get to keep the cloak though <div></div>

[POX67]

<div></div><div></div> <p>I have looked and searched the forums but can't find any information on what the choices of gods are, any one got a link?</p> <p>Also what level can you start worshipping a god?</p> <p>Thanks!</p><p>Edit: No matter, found what I was looking for:</p><p>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=echoesoffaydwer&message.id=27287</p><p></p><p>Message Edited by POX67 on <span class=date_text>11-20-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:18 PM</span>

[Cocytus]

<P>Well, the god choices for a good swash are Tunare, Quellious, Marr, Brell, and Ro. The best DPS choice is Brell.</P> <P> </P> <P>He only has 1 blessing we would use (the rest are tradeskill) and it's mostly a survival thing - it adds mit and heat/cold resist.</P> <P> </P> <P>Excluding the one tradeskill miracle, these are his:</P> <P>All his miracles are very nifty, though. His first miracle, Rift from Below is a 5k-ish nuke +700 DOT, ENORMOUS knockback, 6 second stun. Effects epics.</P> <P>His second miracle is a 6.8k (iirc) nuke that is also a 9 second stun. Effects epics.</P> <P>His third one, Armies of the Underfoot, summons 8 swarm pets. IIRC, they are all ^'s and of course scale to your level.</P> <P>His last one is a HUGE mitigation buff. I can't remember specifics atm because I've been too distracted by his others, but I remember it is a huge one.</P> <P> </P> <P>At the moment, you can take the Marr line for the cloak and then renounce and go to Brell, but honestly? I think it's a waste of time, cause I really think SOE's gonna nerf it so you can't wear a cloak of a god you don't worship.</P> <P>The Marr line primarily focuses on tanking, taunting, healing, and really only has 1 significant DPS skill on it, but the cloak is nice. STR and DPS boost and +40% character enlargement. Nifty but it's too late for me to pick it up <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Quellious isn't good for DPS at all and I pretty much think she sucks as a god except for enchanters. Really all we get from her is a hate gain decrease - imo we don't need it.</P> <P>Tunare is a healer god. Plain and simple.</P> <P>Ro is a caster god. Plain and simple.</P><p>Message Edited by Cocytus on <span class=date_text>11-20-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:44 PM</span>

[sasulkin]

<div></div><img src="../../i/global/post_underline.gif" alt="" border="0" height="22" width="22">Anyone else thinking of holding off on a god in hopes that Bristelbane will be one of the next ones to emerge.  If I remember correctly SOE said that more gods will be coming in future updates/ adv packs/ expansions.  I was reading through some of the gods from EQ1 and Bristelbane sounded like the perfect God for us Swashies and I think he would definetly be a neutral god.I just dont like any of the gods that much right now and think that holding out may be a better option.What do you guys think?-Swashie Buckles, 70 Gnome Swashbuckler<div></div>

[Cocytus]

<DIV>You can renounce your god like nothing ever happened. No reason to hold off. If Bristlebane comes back, I will renounce and worship him simply on principle, regardless of his benefits being good or not.</DIV>

[liveja]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cocytus wrote:<BR> <DIV>You can renounce your god like nothing ever happened. No reason to hold off. If Bristlebane comes back, I will renounce and worship him simply on principle, regardless of his benefits being good or not.<BR> <HR> <BR>Well, I was seriously thinking of holding off, but now that I read this, I'm sold. I'll start the Brell quest today, when the server comes back up.</DIV> <P>Any tips would, of course, be deeply appreciated <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Cocytus]

<DIV>Be prepared for one of the most tedious quest lines you have ever done. :p</DIV>

[liveja]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cocytus wrote:<BR> <DIV>Be prepared for one of the most tedious quest lines you have ever done. :p</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I got the first part done (mining the sacred stones) easily, but I'm thoroughly stuck on the second part .... I can't find the path up to Kragploom Mesa, in BBM. VERY irksome <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

[the flu]

There are a few well hidden climb walls to get up there. I'm stuck trying to find a group for mmc, seems that it's not an instance like I thought it was <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[Zygwen]

Mistmoore Castle or Mistmoore Catacombs? You don't need a full group for Mistmoore Catacombs. I was there last night duoing with a Fury. <div></div>

[Cocytus]

<P>For the Kragploom Mesa, you need to basically head north along the top of the cliff that lines the beach. You will come to a mountain with two paths up - left is Kragploom, right is Krulkiel (sp).</P> <P> </P> <P>It is possible to solo the MMC update, but you need time and patience, Once you find where it is, you can sneak by most of the see-stealth wherewolves just on skill, but you must kill a minimum of two. (65 ^^^, but we can kill them.)</P> <P> </P> <P>The boss however...I'm not sure on his soloability. When you fight him, he mentors you to his level (65.) I duoed this with a mystic after killing the two werewolves, but I had no idea he would mentor me to his level. I just noticed that his damage shield hit for like 170 and thought it might be a problem so I got a healer.</P>

[liveja]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cocytus wrote: For the Kragploom Mesa, you need to basically head north along the top of the cliff that lines the beach. You will come to a mountain with two paths up - left is Kragploom, right is Krulkiel (sp). <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I've gone all the way up the path to the left, past the Wind thingie, until I came to what looked like 3 steps. I can't seem to climb or jump up over those steps. </P> <P>I saw what looked like a climbable wall on the other side of those three step-looking things, but haven't been able to get to them.</P> <P>Thanks, tho, I'll keep looking in that area!<BR></P>

[Bishop]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> livejazz wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cocytus wrote: For the Kragploom Mesa, you need to basically head north along the top of the cliff that lines the beach. You will come to a mountain with two paths up - left is Kragploom, right is Krulkiel (sp). <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I've gone all the way up the path to the left, past the Wind thingie, until I came to what looked like 3 steps. I can't seem to climb or jump up over those steps. </P> <P>I saw what looked like a climbable wall on the other side of those three step-looking things, but haven't been able to get to them.</P> <P>Thanks, tho, I'll keep looking in that area!<BR></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>This had me stuck for a bit as well.  Go all the way up until you reach the part where there is a step in front of you that you can't quite seem to jump over (I tried jumping up it for a good 5 minutes).  Now look up, see the next level of cliffs, that is where you need to be.  If you look to your right you will see a well hidden climbable wall.</P> <P>Was very hard to spot as the climb wall part was nearly the same colour as the wall itself, but it's there off to your right.</P> <P>Hope this helps</P> <P>PS - I'm up to the next part of the quest where you need to kill the scavenger.  Has anyone managed to kill it solo?  I got him down to 4%..but wondering if I should just bring a fury along....<BR></P>

[Cocytus]

I've killed it solo - Had to use the Haubergeon though. I'd recommend just bringing one other person. Doesn't matter what class. DPS will kill it faster, healers can heal you, fighters can tank it for you. Just bring one other and you should get em. Both should be 70 though.

[liveja]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> BishopNZ wrote: If you look to your right you will see a well hidden climbable wall.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Thnx for the tip, this morning was my third time up that path, still haven't seen the wall, yet ... it must be VERY well hidden :smileyvery-happy:</P> <P>I'll give it another shot.<BR></P>

[Beri]

because the wall is not hidden , mesa is on the top cliff on your right ,so basicly you need to start walking towards the wall on your right ,and your character will start climbing,,,,, i think its the wall 2 bloks before that step you cant jump on,,, you cann see it for that wall  looks worn out as if lots of people were climbing up and down

[liveja]

<P>I felt kinda stupid when I finally found the climbable wall <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> But it's done, & now I'm up to the Kaladim section.</P> <P>It's irritating to think I'm going to have to do this all over again, when SOE finally releases Bristlebane, Veeshan, or Errolisi.</P>