Best T7 DW for a Swashy that doesn't raid?

[Verathorne]

<DIV>Greetings fellow dashing swordsmen (and swordswomen). I getting ready to upgrade my gear to T7 and wanted to know what some good options were in T7. I thought about a pair of Xegonite falchions, but wanted to know what else was out there. Any help would be greatly appreciated.</DIV>

[the flu]

Grizfazzles dirk is fairly decent, and comes in at legendary. You will need a group capable of doing the den (mid to high 60's). It's a piercer. I think I quested for another peircer in bonemire as well, but I forget the details.I recieved a slash dw weapon from a quest, but I don't remember the stats on it but it seemed fairly good as well from the solo quest series in barrensky (at least I think thats where i picked it up). It's the quest series with the whistles.<div></div>

[Krakenap]

<P>The best way to get equipped if you aren't a raider is to do the claymore quest line.  You will only be able to get so far without doing some epic x 2 raiding, but you can do at least 20+ of the quests.  There are weapons and great armor in the quest line.</P> <P>Nalvest - Permafrost<BR>70 Swashbuckler / Weaponsmith</P>

[Untruth]

<DIV>The best non-raider dual wield legendaries in KoS are generally considered Turadamin's Fang and GrizzFazzle's dirk. The former is 1.0 speed and 5-49 damage and isn't even lore, if offhands could still trigger procs(Not sure if it works with inspiring daring?), that would probably make you eat dirt in seconds. I believe Turadamin's comes from Blackscale Sepulcher in Bonemire, although i just bought mine. Grizzfazzle's has a more averaged out ratio, and is probably the easiest to get legendary for KoS there is - Den of devourer isn't particularily difficult for a late 60's group. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The only other high-end damage rating dual wielder i've seen is Essensia, 20-62 damage/1.6 speed with well... aweful stats, but it has a unique power steal proc, 3% for 200, which makes it so you don't need mental breach. Its a black glyphed katana, and one of the only two non-raid dw katanas in the game, from the last part of Thorn's section of Infiltrating Sanctum in... Sanctum. Its an easy quest, but its painfully long.</DIV>

[AegisCrown]

<P>Koturah's fang from sanctum</P> <P>Essentia from quest series in sanctum</P> <P>tundarums fang from blackscale seplucure</P> <P>blackscale shortsword from blackscale sepulcure</P> <P>sword of four winds from claymore series are all taht come to mind right away</P>

[Luk]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> AegisCrown wrote:<BR> <P>Koturah's fang from sanctum</P> <P>Essentia from quest series in sanctum</P> <P>tundarums fang from blackscale seplucure</P> <P>blackscale shortsword from blackscale sepulcure</P> <P>sword of four winds from claymore series are all taht come to mind right away</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Grizzfazzle's Dirk from Grizz's Errands quests

[Verathorne]

<DIV> <DIV>Untruth wrote:</DIV> <DIV>The only other high-end damage rating dual wielder i've seen is Essensia, 20-62 damage/1.6 speed with well... aweful stats, but it has a unique power steal proc, 3% for 200, which makes it so you don't need mental breach. Its a black glyphed katana, and one of the only two non-raid dw katanas in the game, from the last part of Thorn's section of Infiltrating Sanctum in... Sanctum. Its an easy quest, but its painfully long.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What is the other non-raid dw katana?</DIV></DIV>

[Mion da Peon]

<DIV>Only other dw katanna that I can think of comes outta lab </DIV><p>Message Edited by Mion da Peon on <span class=date_text>04-25-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:05 PM</span>

[Untruth]

Blade of the Darktalon, 49 damage rating, decent stats but no proc - I'd consider it on the level of Koturah's or Blackscale's. It comes from a rare spawn named, on the second floor of Palace of Awakening, at the top of the "fountain". Hes a fairly rare spawn, and the drop itself is pretty rare as well, only seen him once from 64-69 in PoA, so unless your fairly determined to dual wield katanas and not be a raider, good luck <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Hadanelith]

<DIV>Hold on. A 3% chance to steal 200 Power makes it so you don't ever need Mental Breach, which has a 25% chance of stealing 300 (actually taking 600 from enemy)?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm not sure where you do your math on that... but having a base proc as a power drain is very nice regardless. I just don't see where you've founded this comparison. Mental Breach will usually only be used on mobs with incredibly high mitigation, or who like to heal themselves. You won't see a lot of either as a non-raiding Swashbuckler, at least not to such a degree that you need to worry about that sort of thing.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-Hadanelith Raswrolski, 70 Assassin of Kithicor</DIV>

[Untruth]

As a 68 Assassin, i don't even use drinks anymore, but i guess i don't raid either. Because Swashies can cap haste without any external help (I'm fairly sure not everybody has their own custom party of a fury, inquisitor and illusionist around to keep their dps/haste capped at all times), the proc rate should be significantly larger. Assassin CAs may have a longer reuse time than swashie CAs, but they also have double to triple the power cost. As far as i'm concerned, unless your absolutely spam happy(As in using CAs that deal less damage than 1 second of auto attacking, or have a useless or broken debuff), Essensia works wonders.

[Debunkt]

<DIV>Swashies can cap haste on their own? How do you figure?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We may be able to spike to the cap briefly solo, but you'd need FBSS, Imbued AGI ring and * Bravado up. Solo we do get hit so Bravado may be up half the fight.</DIV>

[Geero]

<DIV>Bravado + Bravo's dance(HO) = 90% haste.  If you add ring proc on that, you are over 100% haste which over the cap.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'll give that doing HO would be hard in raid.  </DIV>

[Debunkt]

<P>The point I was trying to make was that it is rare a solo Swash will be at 100% haste. Untruth made it sound like it was easy to do, correct me if I'm wrong on that.</P> <P>Bravado will not be up the whole fight, unless you know some secret to avoiding all hits.</P> <P>Ring proc is 3%, hardly up every fight.</P> <P>I can count the number of times Bravo has been up in the last month on 1 hand. I'm more than a casual player and solo some at least everytime I play, ho'ing at every opportunity.</P> <P>edit: sorry for the slight post tangent =/</P><p>Message Edited by Gokineq2 on <span class=date_text>04-28-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:01 PM</span>

[Geero]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gokineq2 wrote:<BR> <P>The point I was trying to make was that it is rare a solo Swash will be at 100% haste. Untruth made it sound like it was easy to do, correct me if I'm wrong on that.</P> <P>Bravado will not be up the whole fight, unless you know some secret to avoiding all hits.</P> <P>Ring proc is 3%, hardly up every fight.</P> <P>I can count the number of times Bravo has been up in the last month on 1 hand. I'm more than a casual player and solo some at least everytime I play, ho'ing at every opportunity.</P> <P>edit: sorry for the slight post tangent =/</P> <P>Message Edited by Gokineq2 on <SPAN class=date_text>04-28-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>02:01 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I had 3 bravo during 1.5hour writ farming I did last night.</P> <P>I'll agree with you that it's not easy to do it, but I think we have better change to max out then any other class.  Thats MO.<BR></P>

[Untruth]

<P>^^ What Geero said</P> <P>The only other class that can actually consistently get that high haste without any exterior assistance is monks, who, ironically as a tanking class, can get 100% haste without even having any masters in T7, or very close to it in T6. While bravado probably isn't exactly the most effective self-buff while soloing, i am referring to a group situation, where its probably more power intensive. Because of the scarcity of enchanters and bards(Personally on Mistmoore, i've only actually ever seen one bard archetype in T7 so far, that wasn't in a raid guild, or grouped all the time), scouts will more or less be without any attack speed haste. FBSS is 15%, Bravado is dependant on the rank, but probably somewhere above 50%, as long as you at least have the adept 1(?), then throw on Finesse and you should be capped without any other class helping. Sure, there are Furies, but i tend to have the worse luck, and always end up with the ones who decide that it would be the best idea to stack offensive buffs on the... tank? Berserkers help too, but i've actually never seen a berserker who bothered to get the Adept III group berserk.</P> <P>But, the point is that it should be easy to maintain high power unless you go absolutely spam happy. As an assassin, you'd pretty much figure that if i blew all my stealth-big attacks on a single mob, i'd probably waste alot more power than i'd get back as well.</P>