Last Str AA spell

[m0ya]

<div></div><div>I don't remember the name atm but I'm not sure that I understand how it's working....</div><div>--------------</div><div>EDIT: The effect is, reduce recast timer by 50%, inflict 300-500 damage</div><div>--------------</div><div>My tought :</div><div> </div><div>You cast is a few second before the AE (Let's sta Blackqueen AE, 25sec) is casted. The black queen, with that spell on her, when she'll cast his AE, will take 50sec, instead of 25, to cast his AE again.....</div><div>So.... with that spell... you double the time you can stay in the AE....</div><div> </div><div>Am I right?????</div><div> </div><div>Thx</div><p>Message Edited by m0ya on <span class="date_text">04-09-2006</span><span class="time_text">05:05 PM</span></p>

[Luk]

<div></div><p>I'll use 30 seconds for simplicity</p><p>You have a 30 second AE, on a raid mob, therefore you are either eating the AE or jousting to avoid it every 30 seconds, with Traumatic Swipe (I think thats the name) the recast timer is increased by 50%, this menas that the AE goes off in 45 seconds, (30 second base recast, plus 15 second which is 50% of the 30 seconds) this does not only effect AE's but all CA's that the mob uses.</p>

[m0ya]

<div></div><p>Wow thx for the fast answer!!</p><p>I might /respect to get it for raid... Just to make sure I understand...</p><p>On black queen, the first AE is called, I run in, cast some CA and at ± 20 sec. I cast "THE" spell and run out. When the AE will be casted again, I can stay in the AE for (25/2= let's say 12, 25+12 = 37) 37 seconds.</p><p>Another tought..... can it be resisted??</p><p>There's no flag like "not working if epic" so is it working? (You know SoE..)</p><p> </p><p>Thx!</p>

[SageGaspar]

I was actually worried about it for this reason, because unless you keep the debuff up constantly on the raid mob from the beginning, you're going to be screwing with AE calls. Then again, there are plenty of situations where it could come in handy...I dunno enough about mob CA usage to know what kind of effect this really has, like maybe the mobs really aren't casting as soon as the CA timer is up or something. Is there anyone out there who's used this on raids and can say one way or the other whether they've noticed a big difference?<div></div>

[Luk]

<div></div>as long as the "debuff" is active, ie its on the mob when the AE goes off, it will effect the recast timer for the mob, if it happens to drop and is not put back on for 10 or 15 seconds, the AE recast is still going to be counting down from the +50% timer it was on due to Traumatic Swipe being up when the recast timer started.

[SageGaspar]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>Licit wrote:<div></div>as long as the "debuff" is active, ie its on the mob when the AE goes off, it will effect the recast timer for the mob, if it happens to drop and is not put back on for 10 or 15 seconds, the AE recast is still going to be counting down from the +50% timer it was on due to Traumatic Swipe being up when the recast timer started.<hr></blockquote>Ah, okay. It'd be pretty easy to make sure it's up for the AE then. Hrrm, this is a tough call... going to have to think hard about giving up points in double-attack for that...</span></div>

[m0ya]

Why giving up the double proc from Wis AA??Str 4-4-4-4-8Wis 4-4-4-8And you have some point left for something.. lol

[SageGaspar]

Ya... this sounds stupid, but my character pretty much embodies the Fencer archetype and I really want him to have the whole line up to Coule, hehe, especially with possible titles in the pipeline for sometime later.<div></div>

[m0ya]

<div></div><p>Coule was nerfed... it's only 16.9 now.... I mean..... I can get 25 only with an HO that I can cast every 3 sec. And the proc is 10min <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>I /respect a lot in the past few days and I really think I am gonna stay with Str to max for raid... and Wis 4-4-4-8 and for the last point, getting the second spell from the Int line.</p>

[SageGaspar]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>m0ya wrote:<div></div><p>Coule was nerfed... it's only 16.9 now.... I mean..... I can get 25 only with an HO that I can cast every 3 sec. And the proc is 10min <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>I /respect a lot in the past few days and I really think I am gonna stay with Str to max for raid... and Wis 4-4-4-8 and for the last point, getting the second spell from the Int line.</p><hr></blockquote>You have no idea how high my piercing can get, hehe. It's almost ludicrous. I have something like level 80 piercing, and I only have Adept 1 offensive stance.And I agree it's pointless and completely unnecessary, but I just feel bad giving up the ultimate spell in the line that embodies my character <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span></div>

[m0ya]

<div></div><p>How do you get it that high? you mean... constant 80+ or with proc thing?</p><p>And don't feel bad.... guildies will love you with the Traumatic swipe <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[SageGaspar]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>m0ya wrote:<div></div><p>How do you get it that high? you mean... constant 80+ or with proc thing?</p><p>And don't feel bad.... guildies will love you with the Traumatic swipe <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><hr></blockquote>+16 on gear, +30 on stance. I guess I'm a little short of that number, but I also had a couple buffs on at one point that took me up to level 90 piercing skill, hehe. I suppose maybe I"ll have to give it up. /sigh</span></div>

[Keldo]

huh, I always assumed you had to use it after the AE went off, I guess I should have realized it needed to be on before.I guess that explains why I didn't think it was working sometimes!<div></div>

[AegisCrown]

<DIV>depending on group buff im not sure about other but my record piering is 512, im sure i can even get it a bit higher if i sought out other gear and maybe worked the group a bit a differently.  but thats like lvl 102.  and str rank 5 is amazing we love it already</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>ps. i dont have coule either so chalk another 17 points up there</DIV><p>Message Edited by AegisCrown on <span class=date_text>04-11-2006</span> <span class=time_text>07:47 AM</span>

[Keyh]

<div><blockquote><hr>m0ya wrote:<div></div><p>Coule was nerfed... it's only 16.9 now.... I mean..... I can get 25 only with an HO that I can cast every 3 sec. And the proc is 10min <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><hr>It was nerfed to 16.9 because they added Defense and Parry to the Mix. Originally it was +2something Piercing, Slashing, Ranged. Then they cut it down and added Defense and Parry, which is awesome.</blockquote></div>

[Dresden00]

<P>So can swashies out there with the last STR ability tell me if it is as good as it sounds on raids?  It sounds almost necessary and extremely good.  Is this the case?  That and melee crit are making me want to respec STR.</P>

[Mortal]

Outside of Talendor and the mini-Talendor in the x2 AoA.   Every single mob with an AoE in t7 is easier to just have everyone eat the ae and not bother lancing/jousting whatever you call it.  For Example:  Lord VyemmTail Lash - roughly 1 minute timer, 4-5k, only affects those outside of his body, has max range about 30m or so.   Scream of Chaos - static 32-35 seconds, 3-5k, affects everyone in range, roughly 35m, mem blursIf you have Traumatic Swipe on the mob BEFORE he uses the ability, these both become:Tail Lash - roughly 1:30 timer, 4-5k, only affects those outside of his body, has max range about 30m or so.  Scream of Chaos - static 52-55 seconds, 3-5k, affects everyone in range, roughly 35m, mem blursif you have everyone under his body, say average fight on him is 3 minutes.  instead of everyone taking scream 5 times for 15-25k, it hits 2 times for 6-10k...  that makes him a little easier IMO<div></div>

[WootyMcWooterton]

<DIV>Not to mention the decrease in damage spikes your tank might take.  As a support skill (and I'll admit that I view almost every class in this game as a support class to the tank), it's pretty nifty.  I'm sorely tempted to take it, but that's not until many AAs later.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Amirais - 50 Swash of Oasis</DIV>

for the raiding swashy this AA is a must, I respeced myself to get it. Granted, as one OP said it is not feasible to use it on any and all AEs so you don't mess up the timing for jousting but it definitely has its uses. Raiding wise arguably no other AA is as useful as this one.