What's the toughest thing you can solo?

[lolercopter]

I posted this in the ranger forum as well since I'm not quite sure of the Swashbuckler's solo potential at 65+.  So...What's the toughest thing you can solo?<div></div>

[Wildfury77]

I'm only lvl 60 .....at 59  could solo 56 heroic named with relative ease. I find the best thing i'm good at is killing multiple groups of non-heroic blues silmultaneously, not tried white/yellow names ever......seems like a bad idea......<div></div>

[Luk]

<div></div>been a while since I soloed, about 15 levels in fact, but at level 55 the best thing I soloed was a level 59 Wizard

[Severed Ha]

<blockquote><hr>lolercopter wrote:I posted this in the ranger forum as well since I'm not quite sure of the Swashbuckler's solo potential at 65+.  So...What's the toughest thing you can solo?<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>Mmm.. Should I say what I can or can not solo...  What the hell.  :-p  Toughest so far that I can solo is Spycrachis.. or what ever his name is spelled..  Any rate.. Im lvl 70 and he is Lvl 62^^^  But my god does he hit hard when he hits.. Lol.  Other named that I usually kill solo are in TT also.. Car'rion and Championess P.. something or another..  :-p.  Both those I belive are only Lvl 61^^^. </p><p>As for Reg mobs..  Highest I have soloed thus far has been in SoS dungeun lvl 64 heriocs.</p>

[Zygwen]

Asking Swashbucklers what the toughest thing we've soloed is like doing a [Removed for Content] contest to see how bad suck. Even Guardians can kill harder stuff solo than we can. Admitedly it might take then an hour to do so but they can do it.<div></div>

[Keyh]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>Zygwen wrote:Asking Swashbucklers what the toughest thing we've soloed is like doing a [Removed for Content] contest to see how bad suck. Even Guardians can kill harder stuff solo than we can. Admitedly it might take then an hour to do so but they can do it.<div></div><hr></blockquote>Just curious, what level are you? They must have some good drugs in the tier you're in.</span></div>

[canis1]

<div></div>Well, Lvl 70 swashie here outfitted in almost all T7 legendary, one or two fabled, and the rest are some of the uber-treasured that drops. I use all grandmaster poisons and I know my class very well, having played this character since Nov 11, 2004.saying that, Nameds eat me for lunch. Plain, simple, I can only take ^^^heroics that are 8 or more levels below me. Any closer than that and I am toast. In fact, I was going back to try and get my peacock quests up and ready for a godking raid. I got to the step where you have to kill the 'Enigma of Ice' to be able to climb a wall (Access needed to advance time for a garden party quest). The Enigma is a 58^^^ named with some friends. They dropped me like I wasn't even there, I didnt even have a chance to get evac off. So, ^^^heroics @ -8 levels (62 and under), ^^heroics with a friend (IE: 2 ^^heroics that are grouped) I can take at about lvl 64 or so (by no means a garunteed victory), and anything less heroic than that if it cons Blue I can usualy take it. I cant even look funny at a mob that has a heroic tag if it cons white or up; it will make me a grease stain and pick its teath with my bones.Non heroics, I have 50/50 luck with yellows. Whites are easy. Oranges.... not even a chance, Im dead. I have better luck with group encounters, as the entire encounter is conned together, the individual mobs are easier, and swashies are defintaley the most group oriented of the scout classes. With properly upgraded AOE attacks, and using the right skills in combination you can drop group encounters that would eat some other classes alive (all looking at this from a solo perspective). There are definately other classes that are a lot better at soloing than we are, I would never choose a swashbuckler if I was planning on soloing my whole career. However, on those rare occasions where I can't find a group, or I am working on a quest that no one else seems to want to help with at the moment; we can definately solo some. Also, in those rare occasions when you cant find a tank for your group, or the only tank available is 4 or 5 levels below you, we can even tank (some, in a pinch).Now the other thing to consider is that I am set up purely for groups/raids. All my gear is for high stats/DPS, not resists or STA/WIS. Also my AA's are chosen for what gives the best damage output, not what increases my defense. I am sure that if you are planning to be a pure solo swashy, or even going for the tank-swashy, there are other gear/skill combo's that will allow you to solo a bit better than I do. If that is your goal, good luck! I hope you find that build, as I know its out there!<div></div><p>Message Edited by canis187 on <span class="date_text">04-03-2006</span><span class="time_text">01:14 PM</span></p>

[Zygwen]

<span><blockquote><hr>Keyh wrote:<div><span><blockquote><hr>Zygwen wrote:Asking Swashbucklers what the toughest thing we've soloed is like doing a [Removed for Content] contest to see how bad suck. Even Guardians can kill harder stuff solo than we can. Admitedly it might take then an hour to do so but they can do it.<div></div><hr></blockquote>Just curious, what level are you? They must have some good drugs in the tier you're in.</span></div><hr></blockquote>Lvl 70Wis 4-4-8-8Str 4-4-1Most skills adept III or better.Been playing since Nov 9th 2004.Basically, I think bragging about anything is anathema to being a Swashbuckler. This thread should really have stayed on the Ranger forums.</span><div></div>

[SageGaspar]

I've actually taken to carrying the handcrafted T7 resist gear around with me wherever I go, whether group, solo, or raid.For soloing, AGI, Resists (not wis, but resists), and STA (to a lesser extent -- STA is hard to raise on the spot) are king. The rest are sort of meh. STR and INT are nice but they're not going to make the difference in you soloing a mob in general.Anything that's pure melee and green should be doable. Drop into defensive stance, load up on AGI (potions, whatever), apply the lifetap poison and the crushing/piercing/ranged/etc debuff poison. They'll be lucky if they can hit you, and your lifetap should cover the seldom times that they do. You should have no issue hitting them.Anything with a big magic attack, you might have to wipe one time to see what it is. Go back and equip your resist gear to max out whatever it is they're harming you with and go back. You might want to think about offensive stance for interrupts if their melee is weak and using DD instead of lifetap. Stun poison would probably be great too, but I don't carry that around with me in general.<div></div>

[canis1]

<div></div><div><span><blockquote><hr>Zygwen wrote:<span>Basically, I think bragging about anything is anathema to being a Swashbuckler. This thread should really have stayed on the Ranger forums.</span><hr></blockquote></span><a href="../view_profile?user.id=251525" target="_blank"><span>CaptainDaveyJones</span></a>  wrote in this <a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=33&message.id=10403" target="_blank">thread</a>:<b>swashbuckler1</b> <b>:</b> a swaggering or daring soldier or adventurerSo you can do what you want for this, a merc, a corsair (which is a um..."dashing pirate" ) , etc.The catch is though that they are daring and swaggering....so this means no matter what background you choose you should hopefully see yourself as/RP (if you do):Swagger<b>1</b> <b>:</b> to conduct oneself in an arrogant or superciliously pompous manner; <i>especially</i> <b>:</b> to walk with an air of overbearing self-confidence<b>2</b> <b>: <a href="http://www.webster.com/dictionary/boast" target="_blank"><font size="-1">BOAST</font></a>, <a href="http://www.webster.com/dictionary/brag" target="_blank"><font size="-1">BRAG</font></a>Daring</b><b>:</b> venturesomely bold in action or thoughtSo.... in conclusion...We are bold stuck-up heroes.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Sory for quoting two different people from 2 different threads there, but I just had; in my inestimable, profesional, swashbuckling opinon (and we all know how much weight opinions carry); to disagree. This line of thought takes us to the second post i quoted above; In your <i>OPINION</i>, what is a swashbuckler? And weather you view it as a pirate, three musketeer-type, or something more modern, they all share the flamboyant, swaggering, loud-mouth style. Which, in general, means bragging about the big-bad you just took down! Now to further avoid derailing this thread any more than i allready have;Evalin, What is the toughest mob you have taken down?</div>

[Keldo]

Can't really solo much of anything reliably as far as group mobs go, was messing around in Maj'dul and got killed by a Sha'ir at 70 with a lot of AA.Basically if you can sneak up on them and use Inspiration you have a chance to win, but past that were pretty much meat if its higher than 65.Solo mobs on the other hand, no problem at all unless orange.  1 up arrow are kinda hairy but grab a tap poison and you are good to go.<div></div>

[Keyh]

<div></div><div><span><blockquote><hr>Zygwen wrote:<span><blockquote><hr>Keyh wrote:<div><span><blockquote><hr>Zygwen wrote:Asking Swashbucklers what the toughest thing we've soloed is like doing a [Removed for Content] contest to see how bad suck. Even Guardians can kill harder stuff solo than we can. Admitedly it might take then an hour to do so but they can do it.<div></div><hr></blockquote>Just curious, what level are you? They must have some good drugs in the tier you're in.</span></div><hr></blockquote>Lvl 70<font color="#ffffff">Wis 4-4-8-8</font><font color="#ffffff"></font><font color="#ffffff">Str 4-4-1</font><font color="#ffffff"></font><font color="#ffffff"></font><font color="#ffffff">Most skills adept III or better.</font><font color="#ffffff"></font><font color="#ffffff">Been playing since Nov 9th 2004.</font><font color="#ffffff"></font><font color="#ffffff">Basically, I think bragging about anything is anathema to being a Swashbuckler.</font> This thread should really have stayed on the Ranger forums.</span><div></div><hr></blockquote>Anyway, if you truly think Guardians can solo stuff better than us and you weren't being facetious (Esp. with your set up and 'long term experience' with the class) you are doing something very...very...wrong. I'm decked out in treasured (crafted) armor and some common drops with most T7 skills as Adept I, others I haven't found yet (Offensive stance as an example, also some attacks I haven't gotten) and I can solo 67-68 non-named heroics and 63-64 named heroics with little to no problems.</span></div><p>Message Edited by Keyh on <span class="date_text">04-03-2006</span><span class="time_text">02:22 PM</span></p>

[Zygwen]

The way I view Swashbucklers is that we have a lot of style but when it comes to the realistics of the game we lack substance in terms of soloing uber hard stuff unless you are into painfully kiting things while running backwords using a zillion thrown daggers.While we may be able to brag that we killed a blue con named once. There are wizards, rangers and even chanters that can claim to have killed heroic yellow cons. Granted it took the chanter almost an hour to kill said named and I suppose that with kitting we probably could too but I rather have root canal.So while by definition we should be braggards. In reality we arn't. Even the Brigands show more attitude than we do. Most of the braggards left our class because there is no much to brag about when playing a Swashbuckler.If you really want to know what hard mobs I've killed here is a short list.In DoS at level 60, 2 of the harder mobs I have soloed are Warden of the Spirit and Phenos The Explorer.At 70 I have soloed some of the green heroics in Sanctum of Scale./sarcasm onWOW I'm so uber I can solo green heroics./sarcasm offNow if we really wanted to brag we should talk about tanking in small groups. For example. I tanked all the way down to the egg room for Book of Sacrifice quest in Sanctum of Scale at 68. We even took out all the named mobs we encountered. Atleast then we can be claim to be better than rangers.<div></div>

[canis1]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>Zygwen wrote:/sarcasm onWOW I'm so uber I can solo green heroics./sarcasm offNow if we really wanted to brag we should talk about tanking in small groups. For example. I tanked all the way down to the egg room for Book of Sacrifice quest in Sanctum of Scale at 68. We even took out all the named mobs we encountered. Atleast then we can be claim to be better than rangers.<div></div><hr></blockquote>LOL, I think you hit the class head on here!</span></div>

[DonSavan]

<div></div><div><p>I hardly ever solo anymore, i usually duo/group with my warden friend, but she went out of town so i had a chance to brush up on my soloing skills tonight.</p><p>I solo'd my way to the forge in SoS to work on a heritage.</p><p>I solo'd Ayesore the Mighty in poet's palace.  I ran out of time or I would have tried the mobs on the top floor</p><p>added-</p><p>The Skywatcher</p><p>67^^^  ravasects on the way to the den</p><p> </p><p>Arryn Demarco</p></div><p>Message Edited by DonSavantx on <span class="date_text">04-07-2006</span><span class="time_text">04:12 AM</span></p>

[RingleToo]

<div></div><p>I have no problems bragging. It ain't brag if it's fact :smileywink: Though, I can't say that I have much to brag about when it comes to soloing tough things. I have armor and weapons appropriate to my level (5<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> but am mostly too cheap to get Legendary/Fabled stuff :smileyvery-happy: I can take out yellows if I can sneak up on them. Trip blue maybe if it's low enough, and I can sneak up on it. Orange I won't go near. Our strength isn't soloing. I'm not sure there really is any one thing that is our strength. And that's our strength.</p><p>I posted in another thread that has a discussion about the swashy's versatility explaining why that makes our class so fun to play. Yeah, there other classes that dps better, tank better, solo better, uber better, maybe even brag better. But no class can do all of those things like we can. We are the epitome of the jack-of-all-trades, and I don't mind bragging about it.</p>

[The-Fourm-Pirate]

<div></div><p>As a Brigand, I solo better than swasies due to the otherwise useless skill, Band of Thugs. Best I have soloed:</p><p>Level 68^ named at level 61 (yes, that's orange con, before I had thugs even)</p><p>And I can consistantly solo 66^^^s at 67. I can also solo Roost and most of Cazel's Mesa.</p>

[Galn]

<div></div><div></div><div>Replies to specifics in <font color="#66cc00"><font color="#ff6600">Orange</font><font color="#66cc00"></font> </font><font color="#ff6600">But I will mention here I just dinged 44 with my Swashy so things may change as I go higher...</font><font color="#66cc00"></font><blockquote><hr>canis187 wrote:<div></div><p>Well, Lvl 70 swashie here outfitted in almost all T7 legendary, one or two fabled, and the rest are some of the uber-treasured that drops. I use all grandmaster poisons and I know my class very well, having played this character since Nov 11, 2004. <font color="#ff6600">Sounds like really nice equipment "IF" it has the right stats.</font>Saying that, Nameds eat me for lunch. Plain, simple, I can only take ^^^heroics that are 8 or more levels below me. Any closer than that and I am toast. In fact, I was going back to try and get my peacock quests up and ready for a godking raid. I got to the step where you have to kill the 'Enigma of Ice' to be able to climb a wall (Access needed to advance time for a garden party quest). The Enigma is a 58^^^ named with some friends. They dropped me like I wasn't even there, I didnt even have a chance to get evac off. So, ^^^heroics @ -8 levels (62 and under), ^^heroics with a friend (IE: 2 ^^heroics that are grouped) I can take at about lvl 64 or so (by no means a garunteed victory), and anything less heroic than that if it cons Blue I can usualy take it. I cant even look funny at a mob that has a heroic tag if it cons white or up; it will make me a grease stain and pick its teath with my bones. <font color="#ff6600">About the same for me when I was around 40th. I did solo Bloodtalon at 37 though, was mad cuz he didnt drop a chest :smileymad:, and then when I was 39 I was soloing the lvl 30 ^^^ golems in RoV. I havent tried any heroics since but have gotten some nice skills and adjusted my equipment a little to be more durable in longer fights.</font>Non heroics, I have 50/50 luck with yellows. Whites are easy. Oranges.... not even a chance, Im dead. <font color="#ff6600">Something must be wrong with your setup or tactics for taking out solo mobs. Against a plain-jane solo mob I can kill the highest yellows without them getting more than one swing off on me.. and most of the time they miss me on that one swing. If there is no lag and I force it I can sometimes do so without them even getting that one swing in. Low oranges are not quite as easy but the lowest level I can solo easier than the -10 green ^^^'s. My attacks miss more often but they do die. For Comparison my Monk can kill +2 Yellow ^ mobs and Heroic ^^^'s 7 levels below him.. Havent seen how high of an orange solo no-arrow he can solo yet, but I'm sure he can handle an orange now fairly easy. </font></p><p>I have better luck with group encounters, as the entire encounter is conned together, the individual mobs are easier, and swashies are defintaley the most group oriented of the scout classes. With properly upgraded AOE attacks, and using the right skills in combination you can drop group encounters that would eat some other classes alive (all looking at this from a solo perspective). <font color="#ff6600">Personally with my setup I have no problem with yellow vvv groups if there are not that many of them. More than a few and they eat me up. Perhaps if I switch to more defensive gear for these fights I'd be able to solo larger groups. Swashy does do a lot better against even my Warlock against small groups, which may change though when the Warlock gets an AoE root... we'll see, My monk isnt even close when it comes to group encounters, they all eat him alive.</font></p><p>There are definately other classes that are a lot better at soloing than we are, I would never choose a swashbuckler if I was planning on soloing my whole career. However, on those rare occasions where I can't find a group, or I am working on a quest that no one else seems to want to help with at the moment; we can definately solo some. Also, in those rare occasions when you cant find a tank for your group, or the only tank available is 4 or 5 levels below you, we can even tank (some, in a pinch). <font color="#ff6600">I beg to differ here. I have soloed all the way up to 44. Sure I've grouped a few times but most of the things I've done have been solo and I've shelved a Warlock, Monk, Brigand, and Assassin because the Swashbuckler handled all the situations better over all than the other classes. The Monk and Brigand are fairly close over all but the swashy seems to handle the wide range or situations better, in my experience.</font>Now the other thing to consider is that I am set up purely for groups/raids. All my gear is for high stats/DPS, not resists or STA/WIS. Also my AA's are chosen for what gives the best damage output, not what increases my defense. I am sure that if you are planning to be a pure solo swashy, or even going for the tank-swashy, there are other gear/skill combo's that will allow you to solo a bit better than I do. If that is your goal, good luck! I hope you find that build, as I know its out there!</p><p><font color="#ff6600">I am in Imbued Augmented LEATHER, not Ebon chain, and have legendary non-imbued weapons with a smattering of decent gear. All skills are Adept I except 2 Master I's I found cheap and the lvl 34 and 44 Master II's. I did however go to maximizing my STR, it was as high as 280 before I traded some of it in for some STA and AGI recently. Now I keep my STR gear with me for soloing solo mobs and when I need to kill a named/heroic/group I'll equip my shield and STA/AGI gear because they actually get a chance to hit me more than once or twice. We are a VERY versatile class, but do need to have different gear available for the different roles we can perform. If you cant solo yellow mobs more than 50/50 you may need to adjust your tactics some. I fire off my sneak/stun attack followed by the rear attack then the flank attack, then I do HO, cheap shot then finish the HO while debuffing and smacking the mob around. Getting off the 3 backstabs right off the bat before the mob even turns around to face me really helps against any mob, and also keep in mind to get the debuffs off early, they make a huge difference. </font></p><p><font color="#ff6600">Edit - Also keep in mind we have a Mez, it really helps when you can mez the mob, let some of your backstabs reset, walk around behind and start the encounter over again. Heck if I had some way to heal I'd be unstoppable, or I'd be a Bruiser :smileytongue:</font></p><p></p><hr></blockquote></div><p>Message Edited by Galn on <span class="date_text">04-06-2006</span><span class="time_text">01:30 PM</span></p>

[Geero]

<div></div><div></div><p>Can't really compare non KoS zone vs KoS zone... </p><p>I used to able to solo ^^^ 52 heroic when I was 56 and if I was lucky I could kill single ^^^53 heroic.  Also killing up to +3 levels non heroics didn't take much, I used to finish the fight with more then half power and HP.  All this changed when I started to hunt in KoS.</p><p>Seems most mobs in KoS zone does more parry and block then earlier zones.  I soloed faries in BS next to whipserwind isle at 64 but it was about 50/50 survival rate, they are 65-66. </p><p>What I do now days are using healing poison, it does help but nothing like earlier zones.</p><p>P.S. I'm not in raiding guild so most of my stuff is either crafted or from non raiding zone.</p><p>Message Edited by Geero on <span class="date_text">04-06-2006</span><span class="time_text">03:48 PM</span></p>

[Wildfury77]

<div></div>Sorry u can compare a KoS zone....his setup tactics MUST be flawed.....@lvl 60 in KoS i <font color="#ffffff">solo </font><b><font color="#ffff00">yellow heroics ^ in SoS</font></b> (1 MOB) or <b><font color="#ffff00">groups of non-heroic yellows</font></b>, just as i did in Sinking Sands or PoF. I would imagine i can still kill <b><font color="#6633ff">Blue heroic names</font></b> too,......in fact i have done....the 58 named gorg died rapidly <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />For info: I'm a tanking swashie , sword+shield, stamina line. My guess is that the combination of high avoidance, high mitigation + boost to HP makes the stamina line the safest "<b><font color="#ffff00">yellow soloing line</font></b>".<div></div><p>Message Edited by Wildfury77 on <span class="date_text">04-06-2006</span><span class="time_text">04:46 PM</span></p>

[DonSavan]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Wildfury77 wrote:<div></div>Sorry u can compare a KoS zone....his setup tactics MUST be flawed.....@lvl 60 in KoS i <font color="#ffffff">solo </font><b><font color="#ffff00">yellow heroics ^ in SoS</font></b> (1 MOB) or <b><font color="#ffff00">groups of non-heroic yellows</font></b>, just as i did in Sinking Sands or PoF. I would imagine i can still kill <b><font color="#6633ff">Blue heroic names</font></b> too,......in fact i have done....the 58 named gorg died rapidly <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />For info: I'm a tanking swashie , sword+shield, stamina line. My guess is that the combination of high avoidance, high mitigation + boost to HP makes the stamina line the safest "<b><font color="#ffff00">yellow soloing line</font></b>".<div></div><p>Message Edited by Wildfury77 on <span class="date_text">04-06-2006</span><span class="time_text">04:46 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote><p> ^ mobs aren't heroic, they're strong solo mobs.  And i agree with the poster saying in KoS mobs are harder then they were in DoF(or they were before i started getting AAs)</p><p>.... the named gorg, was he ^ also?</p>

[overfloat]

<div></div><p>Personally I detest soloing, so our set up works just fine for me. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Though I am glad we're in a sh-- sight better position than we were 12 months ago, when I could barely live against many grey solo mobs...</p>

[overfloat]

<div></div><p>PS: comparing us against mage soloing isn't an entirely fair comparison anyway.</p><p>Mages rely 99% on root/nuke tactics for soloing, so much of it depends on sheer luck as to whether root sticks, whether it breaks early or sticks the full duration, whether their emergency stuns/silences/pacifies are resists, whether they get a string of resists that drains their power too fast, etc. The element of chance is a massive determining factor in their success. If they're lucky they can come out with full health and half power. If they're unlucky, they're drained of power and dead. They can try a named one time and die in 20 seconds. They can try him a second time and come out victorious after 90 seconds with full health.</p><p>On the other hand, chance plays a much smaller part in swashbuckler soloing. Sure, you can still miss important strikes, get mez resists, etc., but a single miss isn't usually as critical. Both swashbuckler and mage soloing depends on minimising incoming damage, but as a swashy you're <u>going</u> to take damage even if you fight perfectly and land every hit. The mob's damage output becomes a major determining factor for swashbucklers and if that incoming damage stream is just too high, your tactics and spell quality aren't going to affect your chances of success -- some mobs are going to kick your [Removed for Content] no matter what you do. On the other hand, mob damage can be completely eliminated as a factor in mage soloing, meaning that their success will vary hugely between attempts depending on their luck.</p>

[Geero]

<div></div><p>One time I soloed full portion of bbq ribs at clam jumpers and I only weigh 160lb.</p><p>Don't think anyone can beat that. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>