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CrazedMut
02-25-2006, 07:34 PM
<div>What are they? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

KnightMax
02-26-2006, 12:41 PM
<div></div><p>Sorry for not getting the names right but its late and im lazy but you will get the right ones from the discrition</p><p>Choices are</p><p>Our PBAE with stun</p><p>Guile (flank / behind with physical mit debuff)</p><p>Hate transfer</p><p>Snare / damage</p><p>I choose the ae</p>

Keldo
02-26-2006, 03:53 PM
with 330 str<img src="http://thehgl.com/keldo/parse/swashmaster264.jpg"><div></div>

Mion da Peon
02-26-2006, 10:29 PM
<div>HA, my prediction was right 28 % swarthy diversion! /em does-a-dance</div><div> </div><div>All pretty viable choices imho,</div><div> </div><div>Guile = most dps</div><div>Swathe = crazy AE dmg</div><div>Diversion = no argo, eva</div><div>Impair = hrm - *can we get a new skill please?*</div>

Luk
02-27-2006, 04:26 AM
<div></div><p>nice!!</p><p>except disorder, I have al the previous tier ones at master, these are some nice upgrades to them <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

overfloat
03-01-2006, 07:50 PM
<div></div>Wasn't Disable one of our 54 choices? Didn't they take the hint that <em>nobody</em> in their right mind selected that option? <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Oxie
03-01-2006, 10:58 PM
<div></div><div>Once I ding 64, I'm going to turn my app 4 Guile spell into master 2. All my other spells will be app 4 until the prices of adept 1's drop on the market or I luck out and snag a few rares to get spells made.</div><div> </div><div>I had all my 47-60 spells at adept 3 or better, because finding pearls/vanadium was very easy for me. Now that T7 zones are jam packed full with hard hitting mobs that are everywhere, foraging for hours on end makes it difficult to find those rares. Then mix in the 200+ people in the zones that are also foraging, it gets even worse.</div><p>Message Edited by Oxie on <span class="date_text">03-01-2006</span><span class="time_text">02:29 PM</span></p>

Krakenap
03-01-2006, 11:50 PM
<div>Anyone have the Adept 3 so we can compare?  One of my indicators for choosing is always how much of an improvement is this over the Adept 3 or Master 1.</div>

mayhem111
03-02-2006, 04:38 AM
<div></div>For me anyways I like Dashing Swathe.  My usual main tank is a pally.  So in a group I like to hit both ae's to do some damage and also to help build up his hate with the encounter.  After that I usually hit elude and hideaway to get rid of unwanted extra hate.   With both that and lucky ploy(believe 70) at master 2 and adept 3 your looking at 2k easy damage with both ae's hitting for above average damage, which shouldn't be too hard after our mitigation reducer attacks.

Iseabeil
03-02-2006, 05:12 AM
<div></div><div>I looted swarthy disorder m1 just before I got my lvl 64 choices, wich made it real easie to decide. I just <em>love</em> seeing a huge group fall back on their <beep> at my might *starts getting thoughts of grandeur*</div><div>I only got to try it in the group I was in when leveling, but with a dirge in group I made havoc with Dashing Swathe m2 <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><div>Guile is nice and all, but Id rather get that one as adept3 till I get a master and Impair is a joke if raiding focused. No debuff and has to be in melee range to use... no thanks.</div><div> </div><div>edit: typo queeen for life</div><p>Message Edited by Iseabeil on <span class="date_text">03-01-2006</span><span class="time_text">04:12 PM</span></p>

Luk
03-02-2006, 10:19 AM
<div></div><p>I'll be going wuth Guile</p><p>Reasoning</p><p>Dashing Swathe at master already</p><p>Impair - yeah nice try SOE <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Swarthy Disorder - 1% change from master, and pretty useless in raid.</p>

overfloat
03-02-2006, 07:39 PM
<div></div><div></div><div>The Swathe Master2's always sound appealling for the "big numbers" factor but, in reality, the Guile line contributes a much larger proportion of my damage, both in groups and raids. And that mitigation debuff is always nice too.</div><div> </div><div>(And I'm convinced SOE only give Impair as a choice to make our decision easier <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />)</div><p>Message Edited by overfloater on <span class="date_text">03-02-2006</span><span class="time_text">06:40 AM</span></p>

CrazedMut
03-02-2006, 07:42 PM
<div>Screw anything else, big numbers AOE FTW!</div><div> </div><div>And my guild has looted EVERY subclass master except Swashbuckler ones, how the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] are you guys getting so many?</div>

overfloat
03-02-2006, 07:52 PM
<div></div><div></div><p>Never seen a swashbuckler Master in 16 months of playing. (Hell, rarely seen any masters and only ever won one -- yes, one! And only a <u>very</u> small handful of Adept1s, all of which I already had when they dropped.) Due to that, never been able to afford to buy a swashy master either!</p><p>My skillz 4 teh sukc. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Message Edited by overfloater on <span class="date_text">03-02-2006</span><span class="time_text">06:53 AM</span></p>

Wildfury77
03-02-2006, 08:05 PM
I have only 1 master I (brilliant swathe), the rest are all <font color="#ffff00">Adept III</font>......being a <font color="#ffff00">jeweler </font>pays off!!! Adept III skills seem more than sufficient. If i could afford more master 1 skills i would pick our selfbuff which would raise all our skills effectiveness! Battlemaster 1 seems very rare and very expensive though <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />So if u are a new swashie i strongly recommend rolling a jeweler!  u can make your own app IV/adept III which is very sweet. Also u can fill those jewelery slots which are often neglected at lower tiers.<font size="4" color="#ff0000">SHADOWSCREAM 56 swash/57 jeweler (Befallen)<font size="3" color="#ffff00"></font><font size="3" color="#ffff00">(p.s.: make sure u don't make an adept III on a skill that u will put to master II)</font></font><div></div>

Luk
03-02-2006, 08:08 PM
<div></div><p>from 47 -> 60 I have 19 masters, only missing Dazzling Steel and Agile Slashing in the 57 -> 60 bracket</p><p>Saw En Garde on the broker the other day for 71plat, yeah, thats right 71 plat, then had it drop in a group I was in <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Mion da Peon
03-02-2006, 10:39 PM
<p>Got guile M1 off the broker, 8.5 pp :smileyhappy: went swathe, disorder would just take the "fun" (agro) outta playing, heh</p>

SageGaspar
03-03-2006, 11:48 AM
<div><span><blockquote><hr>Licit wrote:<div></div><p>from 47 -> 60 I have 19 masters, only missing Dazzling Steel and Agile Slashing in the 57 -> 60 bracket</p><p>Saw En Garde on the broker the other day for 71plat, yeah, thats right 71 plat, then had it drop in a group I was in <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><hr></blockquote>The way I've seen T7 masters dropping, 71pp is ludicrous. I typically see a couple a night come into my guild, granted we have a high number of players, but still...</span></div>

Ookami-san
03-06-2006, 07:31 PM
<div></div><p>Over the weekend I saw a Master one of our level 70 spells for 96pp.  Yikes!</p><p>I have 3 masters already, all of which I bought for 13pp or less.  Everything else is Adept III.</p>

Luk
03-07-2006, 06:40 AM
<div></div>Well, I got stuck taking Impair, but only cause I have Guile and Swathe at master already and Disorder is no good for raiding. 71% slow is nice to working into my soloing tactics.

Carna
03-07-2006, 10:09 AM
<div></div>Guile is beautiful looking... because the recast is so fast it basically means any mob the swashy is fighting is down 500 mit.