We need heals....no...seriously

[Keyh]

Ok, well not seriously. But here's my story.Last night I'm in a *decent* group in SoS. We had 2 healers (Warden+Inquis), an illusionist, a wizard, and a Pally for a tank (and myself of course).The Pally was decent, however often overlooked enemies attacking the Wiz/Healers. Esspecially adds. So I'd taunt them and hit them with everything until they started attacking myself or the tank, then hit Elude if necessary. I noticed a continuing trend of the Pally letting the healers get hit.The Wizard, was doing nicely. 3 out of every 5 fights I was out DPSing him though. The other fights, he had me by ~50 DPS (200 was the most). He wasn't getting aggro though, so he was actually doing well, playing a little conservatively though.The Illusionist. Two words. Mana Battery. Granted, he was doing about 200 DPS but multiple times we were attacked by adds and grouped mobs. I found myself mezzing them, ALOT more than the said illusionist. I often dropped well below the Wiz when I had to mez the incoming adds.The only people I couldn't help were the healers with their heals. We should get heals so we're the complete Swiss army knife. It's not fair that Brigands get leet heals and we don't!!!!<div></div>

[mathalsolo]

<div></div><div><span><blockquote><hr>Keyh wrote:It's not fair that Brigands get leet heals and we don't!!!!<div></div><hr></blockquote>Should have thought of that when you were lvl 15 key <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> You are teh ubar non-tanking class tank though, lolI think you're a haxxor actually, your bard used to tank like a madman too! </span></div><p>Message Edited by mathalsolo on <span class="date_text">02-23-2006</span><span class="time_text">07:27 AM</span></p>

[Syrano]

<div></div><p>Leet brigand heals will also make us inferior to our brothers in arms. Sometimes life's just not fair.</p><p>Serious question though, if you had you, a swashy, and an illusionist, why were adds even a problem?  With that much crowd control power, nothing should have been touching anybody but the one mob the tank was on.  With an illusionist in group, nothing should ever be rogue and wailing on anyone... that is of course.. assuming people know how to take it easy on the AE's <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Illyakuran]

<div></div><p>Sounds like you needed a better tank and not a change in your class abilities.</p><p> </p><p> </p>

[ophidius]

I can heal for over 5000 damage at Lv 20 with no power cost or recharge time. No casting time either. Also, it's allignment-wide, so all of Freeport gets healed.TRUE STORY! <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span><div></div>

[overfloat]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Keyh wrote:The only people I couldn't help were the healers with their heals. We should get heals so we're the complete Swiss army knife. It's not fair that Brigands get leet heals and we don't!!!!<hr></blockquote><img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Carna]

<div></div><p>I daren't use my heals they're that powerful... see all the undead running (ok shuffling) around?... that's what happens when <strong>I</strong> heal.</p><p>Sarim Rael, Brigand of Splitpaw</p>

[defect9]

<div></div><div>Don't swashies have potion heals?  you could set up a hotbar for those. </div><div> </div><div>or you could be like me and be really good at dying...</div><div> </div><div>-J</div>

[BRslay]

you dont need heals just need to teach your pally how to hold aggro. However pallys do not seem to hold aggro great in my experienceCphanic V'ReinNecromancer of Shadowhaven

[Luk]

<div></div>Group I was in last night, between me, a coercer and a dirge all buffing the tanks aggro, he never lost it <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Tiphison]

I would like heals just for soloing.I remember getting a group being difficult the last time I played... An hour at most to find one, even at 3 in the morning many times. However, since I came back I can't find groups at all. Even during peak hours. So I'm stuck soloing which isn't that bad really, but the downtime is and the fact that it's hard to really take on anything a bit more challenging. A lil self healing power would be nice.And actually, I never really thought anything of it. But I been playing as a monk on the pvp server so when I went back to my Swashie I was like.. Dang, I wish I had a heal.<div></div>

[The-Fourm-Pirate]

<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>Keyh wrote:Ok, well not seriously. But here's my story.Last night I'm in a *decent* group in SoS. We had 2 healers (Warden+Inquis), an illusionist, a wizard, and a Pally for a tank (and myself of course).The Pally was decent, however often overlooked enemies attacking the Wiz/Healers. Esspecially adds. So I'd taunt them and hit them with everything until they started attacking myself or the tank, then hit Elude if necessary. I noticed a continuing trend of the Pally letting the healers get hit.The Wizard, was doing nicely. 3 out of every 5 fights I was out DPSing him though. The other fights, he had me by ~50 DPS (200 was the most). He wasn't getting aggro though, so he was actually doing well, playing a little conservatively though.The Illusionist. Two words. Mana Battery. Granted, he was doing about 200 DPS but multiple times we were attacked by adds and grouped mobs. I found myself mezzing them, ALOT more than the said illusionist. I often dropped well below the Wiz when I had to mez the incoming adds.The only people I couldn't help were the healers with their heals. We should get heals so we're the complete Swiss army knife. It's not fair that Brigands get leet heals and we don't!!!!<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] don't cry nerf for our uber heals just cause you don't have one!</p><p>But yeah, actual heals for brigs/swashies would be grand, we're already kinda the jacks of all trades of the games with the tanking and good dps. Probably somthing like this:</p><p>Brigand:Suck it up: Brigand ignores the damage s/he is taking, heals for about 500 on a 1.5 min recast, then does 250 damage 2 minutes later (explanation: Ignoring pain may work during combat, but it's still gonna hurt in the long run)Rum: Blurs vision, heals Brigand for 2,000, slows movement speed by 20% to account for a drunken stagger, -15% haste due to the drink dulling reflexes, 5 min timer. (Pirates like Rum, and lots of alcohol tends to dull the senses, touch/pain being one of them, also the senses of vision and balance, which would account for the penalties)</p><p>Swashie:Desperate prayer: heals the Swashbuckler for 500, 2 minute recast, can only be used if you are 50% or below health (basically praying for dear life when you're getting whooped)Uncanny Humor: Heals all groupmates for 300 mana, heals targeted player for 750 health, timer would be 7 minutes or so. (Swashbucklers strike me as the kind of guys who would point out the humor in a life and death situation, and let's face it, humor in those situations is really just funnier. the mana heals for the group would make swashies even better for raiding</p><p> </p><p>Message Edited by The-Fourm-Pirate on <span class="date_text">02-27-2006</span><span class="time_text">06:31 AM</span></p>

[ArivenGemini]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>BRslayer wrote:you dont need heals just need to teach your pally how to hold aggro. However pallys do not seem to hold aggro great in my experience<hr></blockquote>I duo and group with a pally a lot.. its rock solid agro control..  just make sure you do NOT use your hate transfer when they are using amends on you.  it seems to bork things and make agro all wonky.</span></div>

[Trinitymonger]

<div>__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ______________________</div><div>The-Forum-Pirate wrote:</div><div> </div><div>[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] don't cry nerf for our uber heals just cause you don't have one!<p>But yeah, actual heals for brigs/swashies would be grand, we're already kinda the jacks of all trades of the games with the tanking and good dps. Probably somthing like this:</p><p>Brigand:Suck it up: Brigand ignores the damage s/he is taking, heals for about 500 on a 1.5 min recast, then does 250 damage 2 minutes later (explanation: Ignoring pain may work during combat, but it's still gonna hurt in the long run)Rum: Blurs vision, heals Brigand for 2,000, slows movement speed by 20% to account for a drunken stagger, -15% haste due to the drink dulling reflexes, 5 min timer. (Pirates like Rum, and lots of alcohol tends to dull the senses, touch/pain being one of them, also the senses of vision and balance, which would account for the penalties)</p><p>Swashie:Desperate prayer: heals the Swashbuckler for 500, 2 minute recast, can only be used if you are 50% or below health (basically praying for dear life when you're getting whooped)Uncanny Humor: Heals all groupmates for 300 mana, heals targeted player for 750 health, timer would be 7 minutes or so. (Swashbucklers strike me as the kind of guys who would point out the humor in a life and death situation, and let's face it, humor in those situations is really just funnier. the mana heals for the group would make swashies even better for raiding</p><p>__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ______________________</p><p> </p><p>ROFLMFAO!  I like that line...</p></div>